Sleep is for the Weak! we got too big?!!??!?!!??

[cruisemum1]

can you believe that?! we got too big?
we should surely get an award from Mumsnet?

VM: sympathies re working after a bad night - I've been yawning at my desk all day! I'm off for a few days now and taking advantage of MIL for babysitting so getting some serious naps in

swizz, all power to ya sista you know your little man better than anyone.....if you do however find the magic formula, please do pass it on
i fluctuate between being desperate to get the sleep situation sorted (when i'm knackered usually!) and thinking, it wont last forever and dd is generally fantastic in every other way so i'm obviously doing something right

def get your £ back swizz. we'll all just plod on with each other for comfort. fingers crossed are dc's sleep tonight x

just wrote a post then lost it typical. I was expressing my total and utter frustration with DD and her lack of sleep. Last night she screamed for 2 hrs and she was in bed with us. God knows what she wanted. I'm feeling utterly naffed off with it all and getting increasingly frustrated. Inside I feel like i'm going to explode. I try and keep a calm exterior but I just want to scream, 'shut the f*ck up and let me sleep' I feel really miserable today. Tam, Swiz. Feel your pain today. Tibs, sorry for your crap night.

ginger so sorry to hear you're having a crap time. it must be her teeth. there's no other explanation i can think of if she has you for comfort and you're still bf'ing. either that or ear ache. if you want a proper chat feel free to cat me and i'm sure everyone feels the same. chin up x

ginger - its the pits when you cant fathom out what to do for the best chin up lovely you're doing a great job and as tam says, looks like we're all in it for the long haul. thank god we're here for mutual support hope you (and everyone else) has a better night tonightxx

ginger,I felt like that a few weeks ago.My lo was up for 2 hours a night for nearly two weeks,and putting her in the bed made it worse for all.I kept putting her back in her cot.One night I did it about 15 times!
it drives you mad in the end ,I know how you feel.I think she finally got the message,coz she now sleeps in her cot all night.The lavender is a must,I think.At the end of the day,having baby in bed does not work in the long run.you need your space,and they need to know that.Did you say ages ago that LO in own room,or yours?
Do you think it makes it harder for you if they are in a room of their own?
Hopefully,this phase will end as sudden as it started,and you'll get some sleep.

Gingwe: hope you had a better night. DS woke ever 2 hours, but an improvement on last night as he went back to sleep quickly and I cd put him down without him falling asleep on the boob.

Took the books back and feel better after reading some of the sleep stuff on Kellymom - think I'm doing the right thing.

The sunny weather does help as ew can get oiut more and no plodding around with the pushchair in the rain. Hope it lasts!

morning all. not too bad a night here. went down easily at 7.30 - 11.50 (bottle and back to sleep)woke again at 4 then came
in with us. woke at 7.45 for the day.
swizz glad ds settled quickly for you last night. remember 'it's just a phase' he was managing 3 and 4 hour stretches not so long ago and will go back to them again when you least expect it. I'm holding out for the same this end x

godd morning lovelies
swizz and tam for your improved nights.
ginger, hope youre feeling more positive this a.m. the sun is definitely helping me
our night was a slight improvement too. bed at 8.15pm, woke at 10.45pm but shhed back to sleep. woke at 12 for a huge feed then fed again at 3.30am up at 6.30am for the day
does anyone else find that 'sleep engenders sleep'? cos dd had 2 massive naps yesterday and so slept less last night. i think its a load of baloney in dds case

Tibsy, I don't buy the sleep = sleep thing either never works for me.

Last night wasn't bad at all and I defo feel more positive today. Bed at 8.15 (she had a late nap) woke at 12. Tried to settle but wouldn't so took her into bed. She slept until 5(!!) fed then slept until 7.45 (!!!!). Today I just feel mega guilty for feeling cross towards her. I don't feel like a good mummy and I just wish I had more patience. In the cold light of day I understand that she's not trying to wind me up or anything and that she can't help it but after so much whinging and crying I just feel exasperated and ready to tear my hair out and walk out. Thanks for your support. Believe it or not you're the only people I have to talk to. I think that's partly why I'm so mega frustrated. I don't have family close by and only one friend who has two small children and works. All my other friends live miles away partly because I've always commuted to work so never really made friends locally. Their children all sleep anyway. I was never introduced to any post natal groups either so feel quite isolated. Still, enough of my moaning. I've got you guys. Here's hoping the lovely sun helps these bubbas sleep

seriously ginger, release that guilt. i know its hard because theyre so cute and adorable and you wonder how you could ever lose your patience, but mummies are human too (even tho we have to pretend we're superhuman sometimes!)and you sound lovely, i'd be your rl friend too
i dont really have anyone else to talk to about sleep, or rather lack of! my close friends all have older children (some are grown) and they all work full time too. the 'friends' i've made at groups are nice, but we're not really at the stage of discussing feelings iyswim, so i cant really offload to them. i think thats partly to do with me holding back tho. i was really let down by a friend last year and have found it very difficult to develop friendships with new people as feel a bit wary. (sorry, dont know where that came from)
thank goodness for siftw and you girls, thats all i can say
can you contact your local council or some other organisation to give you a list of postnatal groups? i have found them helpful, just to get myself out of the house and to talk to other mums, even if a lot of the talk is 'superficial', it can be fun too

i have decided i have to bow out of this thread (at lest for now) as ds seems to be doing 10hrs stretches of sleep so i feel like an imposter!
tam, tibs,amber,pav ginger and others I really hope your nights improve soon. you certaily deserve a break. you will find me on the 'early wakers' threads as ds has takn to seeing daybreak and i am not that keen on it . ta-ra for now my cyberfriends. your support has been second to none adn i sincerely thank you from the bottom of my heart!

Me too cruisemum and everyone .I've cracked it too.Wishing you all ,all the luck in the world for the future.thanks to all for support.
I'll join you on that thread cruise.Early starts are ok if you get a good stretch though.
T.T.F.N.

cruise and redbeki don't go!!!!!!
no actually I'm so for you both. will endeavour to track you down on random posts to see how life's treating you in general. enjoy your rest you beatches
XXXXX

thanx Tam.I'm really into weaning threads at mo.Sending happy sleep thoughts to you.

Please get some lavender oil.You must try it.Big hugs.

redbeki tried this morning but local health food place had sold out!!!!! maybe all those lurkers reading your posts!

to both of you lovely ladies who have found sleep!!!
i am you're going, a little , but most of all, really for ya!!!!
Redbeki, i tried lavender oil in a diffuser when dd was smaller and sometimes in her massage oil, to no avail, but havent tried it for months and your success has given me the inspiration to retry it thanks x
cruise - you bloody well deserve it my love
catch you both around
big hugs xxxx

Thanks tibs,one last post.Put it neat on her mattress.It has to be very concentrated to work .Good luck.They all get there in the end.

Cruise and Redbeki, and Cruise, I feel a real sense of loss with you gone. We've been in it together from the start. Good night both, sleep tight and hopefully see you on a happy thread somewhere soon.

morning
good night here (by our standards!)
Ds went to bed at 7.30
woke at 12 and i went into usual 'go get bottle mode' brought it back to give to him in his cot and he refused it went back to sleep in 2 mins and didn't wake again until 3.30. had his bot then and co-slept until 7.30. we all feel pretty rested so am today.

oh and totally non sleep related (unless you count mcdreamie) grey's anatomy starts tonight on living tv at 10.

morning all (and tam, thanks for that!!!! cant wait ) ooohh and glad you had a better night
ours was better too! dp got dd to sleep last night and she slept til 12am with no wakings despite crying out in her sleep. brought her in with me for a cuddle. she fed at 1.30am and i decided to put her back in her cot as dp came to bed then and i thought we could have a cuddle in with us again at 4.30 for a feed, although i should have held out as she didnt take much, then up at 7.15am.
i feel halfway to normal, tho i did go to bed at 9pm

tibs for your good night. dd (when not teething or unwell) is def doing better in the sleep dept.
LOL at you 1.30am 'cuddle'
anyway better go. One of my best friend's (who lives in sydney and i haven't seen since our wedding 3 years ago)is coming to stay tomorrow for the weekend and then we're all travelling to portugal on tues together for another mutual friend's wedding. Got to get my a**e to sainsbury and make sure we're stocked up with the essentials.......gin, wine, nibbles
will try to 'check in' as normal over the weekend xxx