The non-sleepers are still not sleeping

[NinaMarieP]

New thread, guys!

@WhoAteAllthePercyPigs why didn't he just say 'I know but it isn't you, you're doing a great job'

For FUCKS sake what is WRONG with these men !!

@WhoAteAllthePercyPigs I'm so sorry your husband is so unsympathetic. Do they think they just need to be a source of the support for the first week the baby comes home then you can just get on with it? It's so unfair. Good on you for telling him to do one and enjoy his 8 hours. Ffs.

You need him on your team. You need some empathy from him. You're clearly struggling re: new baby who sleeps. I hope you are able to remind yourself during any time that your sleepy nephew (niece?) is nothing to do with anything but pure luck. It isnt parenting; it's biology.

My BiL is so smug about their sleepy newborn too.

Hug. Wine. Chocolate.

Aww thank you so much @frozen @justanotheruser! I know, how can they not understand the response that's required! Is it really that fucking hard? Do I need to write a script??

I do think it's guilt on DH's part. He knows the night shifts are all on me and does feel v guilty about it. But that means that whenever I moan about it, he assumes I'm having a go at him. Er no darling, it's not always about you!

Pfft. It has been a very long day so we are both not our best selves I guess. I think though that when DS wakes at 5 tomorrow, DH will be getting a surprise visit from a very alert baby...

whoateallthepercypigs sorry your dh is being unsupportive and selfish... But that means that whenever I moan about it, he assumes I'm having a go at him. Er no darling, it's not always about you! So so true.

Ds has been asleep for about an hour and a half, I'm off to bed...so I imagine ds will wake up as I fall asleep

Guessing or hoping you're having good nights? Awful one here. DS doing his hourly wake ups again. Not sure how much more I can take.

@whoateallthepercypigs I'm here and sorry you're having a bad night, it is awful when you reach that point. I hope your DS settles soon so you get some rest. And definitely put DH on duty when DS wakes - I do it all the time, even for only an extra half hour a bit of proper rest not anticipating another wake up seems to help.

We are having a better night here, only two feeds, one other wake but I sent DH to deal with that seeing I'm still a bit poorly. Stupidly I decided to read MN during the last feed now can't go back to sleep, I had been doing so well not looking at my phone.....

Sorry @cats I feel responsible for keeping you awake! How are you feeling now? I think part of the problem is I was ill this week but I've had no chance to rest up and deal with it. Stupid breastfeeding and bottle refusing...

Well he's wide awake now. At 5am. After a night of hourly wakings and wouldn't go down till 9.30. Not sure how the fuck he's doing it. I honestly feel like my head is going to explode. He really needs a poo, been trumping loads, so that might help? I just don't know.

I feel like I'm so alone with this.

That'll teach me for.mucking around onnmh phone when I could have been sleeping - DS1 has woken now, that might be the end of my night 😭

Missed your post!

@whoateallthepercypigs it's was chat in the tack room that kept me awake. Go and give him to DH, get some rest. I'd be getting DH to deal with DS1 if he didn't scream blue murder for me all the time.

I'm feeling loads better now, although a bit more sleep/rest wouldn't go amiss, I'm the same as you, never get chance to catch due to a bottle refuser.

We have had a bit of success with expressed milk in a sippy cup (was my saviour yesterday when I could barely move) now he's got the hang of it with water.

Terrible night. I co slept for nearly all of it. I really struggled to actually get any sleep. I put dd away from me in the bed and she rolls to me !

God I'm so tangry. I got annoyed with dd for refusing her porridge again. Then she kept whinging which is just going through my head like a steel pole. A few weeks back she yanked one of my ear piercings (cartilage one) and it's now infected and really painful. Then as I was about to take her upstairs (after taking merely 2 minutes to myself to put my hair up and attempt to clean my piercing) she had pooped through her clothes and on to the sofa 😫 i took her upstairs to hose her down in the bath. AH asked me to wake him up when we got up, so I did. Then I said, are you coming down? And he says 'maybe'. He's still asleep. I honestly could cry. I doubt he's slept through me getting irritated downstairs and showering her down in the bathroom right next to him. He's obviously just ignoring it. As I left the bedroom this morning I said 'oh, isn't it nice to be you..'

@frozen sorry you've had such a bad night. Get your AH up now! I'd just go and dump DD on the bed next to him, that's what I did earlier with DS!

Well DH took DS but he kept crying and there was no way I could sleep. Prob got 30 mins of very light sleep before DH brought him in to be fed. Head is pounding and I could seriously hurt someone. It's all just so unfair.

She just had a measly 30 minute morning nap. I can get 1-2 hours out of her sometimes. So I went and put her on the bed and said daddy's turn to get up !! And I've gone to the spare room.

Good on ya! Quite right.

DS now fast asleep on me. Bit annoying as i really need the loo and want to get up and have breakfast! May try to transfer him soon...

Started off well last night, asleep in cot 7-12ish, then it all went wrong with hourly wake ups. So he was in with me from 3. Then awake and giggly for an hour or so. Then slept until 6.45! My back is so painful from co sleeping 😶

Gosh so many AH's still. They need to get their act together!!

Happy Easter all 🐥 x

Happy Easter everyone. Hope your day's full of chocolate! Not had nearly enough here yet

Not been on for a while, life is getting busier and busier - after having enjoyed a few months of a contented, happy baby who turns into a nightmare during the night we now seem to be going through a miserable, frustrated, clingy in the day phase too which I'm finding really hard. The nighttimes felt easier to deal with when I had a mostly happy boy to deal with during the day. But now, just as I'm at the stage of trying to think about work / get on with things / explore childcare LO has decided he only wants to hang out on my hip whilst trying to grab at anything and everything that comes anywhere near within his reach, resulting in feeling like I'm constantly having to lug a 20lb, curious octopus around with me. On top of that I seem to have no idea about his routine anymore and nappy changes / feeding / dressing / basically anything that needs to be done is now a battle consisting of him thrashing about and screaming. Oh the joys.

Really sorry to be reading about the appalling levels of shitness some of the AHs have descended to. Relationships take a real battering when babies come along. And it's hard to make sense of it all when we're so bloody sleep deprived. But those AHs seriously need to step up.

So after being able to ditch the dummy at 5 months we've started using it again in an attempt to aid sleep, which sometimes works and sometimes fails. I really, really want to move LO to his own room but the thought of having to get up and go into a different room several times a night to plug him up with the dummy feels just miserable. Easier to reach through the cot bars from my bed and do it! But I'm soooo tired of being scared to move in bed incase I wake him. How have those of you who've made the transition found it??

@xxrealistmumxx I've found it much better with DS being in his own room. He doesn't have a dummy so I would have to get out of bed anyway as he was to big to pick up lying down and we've now lowered the cot as he's pulling himself up. I've found we both sleep better and I find it easier to fall asleep. Weirdly since moving into his own room my successful transfer rate has really improved. It's also lovely having a baby free room, feels like I've gotten a piece of myself back.

DS has just taken an hour to fall asleep, I thought he was tired but he was just mucking about until he got properly tired. I'm torn between going to bed or staying up and eating chocolate.

Thanks meepmoop I think I'm going to have to bite the bullet and move him. I'll need to lower his cot too as he's been trying to pull himself up. When I read that bit about having a baby free room I felt incredibly envious so that's a good sign I'm ready! Here's hoping LO's on board! DH is away for five days at the end of next week so I think we'll move LO when he gets back.

Eaten soooo much chocolate I feel too sick to sleep!

May I join? I’ve just read the thread and it’s such a relief to see we’re not the only ones with a baby that’s trying to take us down with slee deprivation!

We have DD(3) who fortunately is now a good sleeper, except when being disturbed by DS(6.5 months) who usually sleeps in intervals of 30-60 minutes at a time and has done for the last 3 months. The exhaustion is really starting to take its toll!

I've had to move dd back in with me because it was too much for me to keep going to her room and I found that it was taking me too long to get to her so she was more awake by the time I did. At least when she's next to me in her cot I can get her back fairly quickly. Even though it's 10-20 times a night ..

When do these lovely babies sleep? 6.5 months of no sleep is killing me

Mine is 8 months - she was wonderful at sleeping (10-6 sometimes!!) until 4 months. Then it all went to shit and here we are !

Between a wiggly, clawing, trumping baby and a toddler whose tummy is sore because she's had too much chocolate, I have given up on sleep for tonight...

So pissed off with AH. He can hear DD crying, I heard him call at her to go to sleep, but it's me who's had to get up and resettle her and give calpol. Desoite it being his fault that she ate her entire egg in one go!

Is anyone else up? Feeling very alone!

He's finally taken her in with him. So that's a bit of quiet from one DC! Well for me anyway.

Meanwhile DS is WIDE awake.

I could cry.