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The non-sleepers are still not sleeping

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NinaMarieP · 27/03/2018 08:59

New thread, guys!

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FrozenMargarita17 · 18/05/2018 08:50

Thank you @justanotheruser18 I did end up sleeping probably about midnight. She woke up at 4:30 which is actually quite a good stretch. Then she was wide awake because as soon as she wakes up she starts climbing so wakes herself up more. I took her in with me and she eventually went down but after a lot of noise and wriggling and trying to turn over and play.

I don't feel very well today :(

FrozenMargarita17 · 18/05/2018 21:37

Oh god dd is screaming so much she's going to be sick. Why couldn't I get a sleeping baby?? I feel so done with it all.

I'm so jealous of people with their sleeping babies :(((((((

Missonhartbaby · 19/05/2018 07:42

@FrozenMargarita17 sending hugs, seems like your really struggling :( sleep deprivation is literally a form of torture, it's awful! How did your night go in the end?
My time on this group may also be up, sleep training seems to of worked wonders at night! Naps are a completely different story though, he fights them so hard and will still only nap for 30 mins even though he needs longer!!

tealandteal · 19/05/2018 09:20

Frozenmargarita17 hope your night got better, DS was sick on his only summer sleeping bag (maybe ate too much dinner?)

I don't think my time on this thread is up yet, sleep has improved but still 4 feeds last night. I have noticed he has eaten more solids in the last few days so hopefully night feeds will decrease

Bartos · 19/05/2018 09:23

@FrozenMargarita17 how old is your DD? Our sleepless babies love to test our limits. I had periods when I thought I was totally losing my mind. I said to my HV and DH that I would hey out from mat leave and go straight to a psychiatric institution... Hope she gives you a break soon!Flowers
At my end things are a bit better, although HV visited on Thursday and said she still wakes up far too much (you tell me!). I've been trying to be more strut overnight and did try to start sleep training overnight but I'm having second thought that I'm doing the right thing. First night she woke up more but actually not piking her up and feeding her right away resulted in a better stretch of sleep. She never cried for more than 2 minutes, specially because if she did I could hear her crying was different, not just a pick me up crying, it was usually a burp, or wanted to feed. She is now feeding 3/3h. It's a lot I know, she is 8,5 months. But much better than before. She goes down at 19/20h, then feeds 21h/22h,then 00h30,then cries around 2h but self soothes, then feeds at 3h30/4h, then sleeps until 7h30/8h. Sometimes she wakes up in that last bit because she doesn't find the dummy. Tonight happened twice on that last stretch. I still feel tired and in getting headaches overnight, but still, I feel better than before. The headaches overnight I think it's because I still wake up a lot, my body doesn't know anymore how to sleep 2 h straight... So I still get quite tired. Now, since she is feeding around 3 times, I think I need to see how to do night weaning. I tried to give water at 00h30 but she won't take it. As soon as she feels the water she will make a fuss and won't take the bottle. Any suggestions? My HV suggested a book from Gina Ford. I have one already about contented babies and I'm familiar with her strict routine. But hey, I'm up to try anything that can get more sleep for the all family.

NinaMarieP · 19/05/2018 22:39

We are trying some new stuff tonight, the past week or so have been shite with 5am wake ups and a tired baby who won't go back to sleep. This morning he was up from 4.15 to 6am...

He's in his own room for the first time.

I'm not waking him for his 10/11pm feed.

There's a blackout gro blind under the other blind.

Fingers are well crossed.

I'm hoping if he does wake for a feed it will be a quick one and he will go back down.

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FrozenMargarita17 · 19/05/2018 23:03

Dd is now 10 months. We moved her cot down to the bottom yesterday and it's like she saw it as a challenge to stand up as much as possible. She did have a late nap yesterday too. I don't know, there seems to be no correlation between the good nights and days and the bad nights and days. I can't figure out what makes a good night.

She's gone down wonderfully tonight, however. Dh did bedtime.

I think I've lost a lot of confidence in being able to put her down in the cot. During the day I tend to nap with her which is way easier. In the cot it's harder to get her down.

FrozenMargarita17 · 19/05/2018 23:04

How old is your Lo @Bartos

tealandteal · 20/05/2018 00:39

Wahhh tonight was hoping well but have just been woken by the massive bang off DS hitting his head on the cot Sad hoping for a quick feed.

frozenmargarita17 DS is also 10 months and we have just lowered the cot ask well. It feels like lowering him down a cliff face now! So mud harder to keep him asleep.

ninamariep I hear you on the early starts Envy (not Envy) do you adjust nap time or try to get them black to normal nappies times and them bedtime? I don't want to get stuck in a cycle of bedtime being Earley because her woke early

NinaMarieP · 20/05/2018 06:54

Uhhh "regular nap time" what's what? 😂

If he's up super early he just ends up having a third nap. Sometimes it's as late as 5pm if he's not going to last through his tea and back and he'll have up to 40 minutes and then still be in bed at his usual time (anywhere between 6.30 and 8).

He's lasting up to 3.5 hours between naps now which helps, and his first nap is about 1.5 hours now, previously it was about 40 and sometimes less.

First night in his own room wasn't great. Took us longer to hear/get to him so it was full on screaming half a dozen times but he did go back to sleep, even at 5.10 and didn't get up until 6, and went his longest ever between feeds - 11 hours 45!

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NinaMarieP · 20/05/2018 06:55

Regular? I mean normal. I don't know what a normal nap time is.

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tealandteal · 20/05/2018 07:11

I just reread what I wrote, so many errors! DS woke at 5.15 but managed to cuddle him back to sleep until 7

WhoAteAllthePercyPigs · 20/05/2018 16:44

Hey all! Checking in as it's been a while since I posted. Sadly not because I'm too busy sleeping! Mixture of being in holiday with no Wi-Fi and trying to avoid looking at my phone at night. Sleep still awful. And now DS has a cold so it's even worse. Last night he wouldn't settle, even on me. Lots of trumping and a big messy poo at 5am.

Hoping for better tonight...

MummyCuddlesSolveEverything · 20/05/2018 20:23

Hi all. Been so busy the last few days so I've lost track of the thread. Glad to see things are getting better for some of you, sorry that things are still tough for a lot of you too.

Starting to see a bit of improvement in the night but at the expense of earlier in the night. So I'm getting a bit more sleep but my evenings are just trying to get him to stay asleep. Not sure which I prefer, being able to have baby free time in the evening but more waking through the night, or spending all evening settling ds and a chunk of sleep.

We had a family event last night, D's did really well and slept through some of it. Ended up getting home at 1030, then he slept (still co sleeping) for 5hours. Hoping that carries on. Usually I wouldn't take ds out that late, but we took 2cars so I could bring him home early if we needed to.

How are you all? Hope you have a good night.

Haypanky · 20/05/2018 22:04

Arrrrrggggh chicken pox! 😱

Meepmoop · 21/05/2018 06:26

I've had my first ever night with one wake up! Only a 5 minutes feed but took another half hour to get him back in the cot. Fingers crossed it continues.

Oh no @Haypanky that sounds bad. How is your LO?

Bartos · 21/05/2018 19:03

@FrozenMargarita17 she is 8.5 months.
@Meepmoop well done! Hope it continues!
My nights are still the same. Feeding 3 times and in media 3 wake ups to pop the dummy in. I haven't checked the book the HV advised. Anyone has tried Gina Ford "the complete sleep guide for contented babies and toddlers"? A friend gave me one oh her books when I was pregnant and I tried when DD was a few months to follow her routine but after 2 days with DD crying so much I gave up. Didn't find it beneficial at the time. I need to get it from the library and have a look.

FrozenMargarita17 · 21/05/2018 20:09

I don't think Gina Ford is for me, but I do have the 'no-cry sleep solution' which is meant to be good. Every time I start to look at it again dd starts to sleep really well and then I stop. It's like she knows haha. Then she goes back again!

morethantired · 21/05/2018 20:53

We now have the community nurse coming out for my 2 year old non sleeper, I have to write a sleep diary, it was very depressing to write that he woke for 3 hours crying on and off every 5-10 mins the other night, then as he dropped off to sleep the 3 month old woke for an hour or so. The 3 month old who has resisted naps all day, won't sleep in car seat, pram, being rocked and has only just started to fall asleep on the bottle!

morethantired · 21/05/2018 20:55

Said 2 year old was a dream for the first few months, literally model baby, swaddled and womb noise, asleep in seconds, napped all day and slept long stretches at night, I've certainly been paying the price for that for more than a year now! Also have a 4 year old who had his fair share of night waking (2 hours a night when his little brother was born) I can't believe I've had 3 that don't sleep and nearly all my friends babies and children sleep!!!!

justanotheruser18 · 21/05/2018 21:14

Gina Ford isn't for me either. I don't think she works for high needs babies. She certainly wouldn't work for me.

Anyone watch The Letdown on Netflix? It is sooooo raw, so brilliant. It makes me realise how far I've come in 9 months of motherhood. If you haven't watched it, I recommend.

Bartos · 21/05/2018 21:35

@morethantired OMG you need to write a book! How to survive 3 sleepless children! You are wonder woman! I hope it improves soon! Poor you!

Meepmoop · 21/05/2018 22:33

Tonight is not going well I cannot get DS back to sleep. He's uncomfortable on me so keeps jerking awake and screams if I put him in his cot. Not sure what to do? I could leave him in his cot to see if he works settle but he stands up straight up x

Meepmoop · 21/05/2018 22:34

Tonight is not going well I cannot get DS back to sleep. He's uncomfortable on me so keeps jerking awake and screams if I put him in his cot. Not sure what to do? I could leave him in his cot to see if he works settle but he stands up straight up

FrozenMargarita17 · 21/05/2018 22:53

Is he poorly @Meepmoop ?

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