The non-sleepers are still not sleeping

[NinaMarieP]

New thread, guys!

Glad to read about the nappies (I think!) I was actually wondering the same. The infant gaviscon has definitely had an affect on nappies but I think they are more like other 8 month babies now. Last night was a bit unsettled but the night before we got 7.5 hours from 11.30 to 7! Hurrah for infant gaviscon!

frozen hope you had a good weekend. Was your DH looking after Dd alone?

@MummyCuddlesSolveEverything

My weekend was good. Not as mad as I thought it would be (the girl who organised it was up for loads of drinking and dancing) because the girl who organised wasn't well so we had a few drinks and nice food but no dancing etc. I was half disappointed but half glad for the sleep.. hahah.

yes he was. She was in one piece when I came back haha. He did tidy the house from top to bottom and insisted he wasn't trying to make a point, just wanted to help. Then I asked him if she ate much over the weekend (she's 8.5 months so weaning still) and he said no because he hadn't fed her because he had been tidying. Essentially she spent the weekend being ignored and playing by herself and only being fed milk 🙈 it is good for her to play by herself but I knew he wouldn't pay much attention to her if you know what I mean? He took her out a few times to the shops too which is good.

Oh well, you can't ask for it all I guess.

@FrozenMargarita17 my DD did the same thing. He had both kids for the full weekend recently as I was working and managed to tidy up and iron almost every item on the ironing pile (basically every item of clothing/bedding we own as I've never managed to do it).

He says he wasn't making a point either... but the photo he sent me of the kids playing and the ironing board up in the background suggested otherwise 🙄

Glad to hear there's been improvements though with little one. Hope it continues x

Oops, dh 🙄

frozen onone that would really annoyed me, and certainly sounds like making a point. Can't believe you dh spent time cleaning rather than feeding your Dd frozen. I'm sure all of us could get more done if we ignored our DC but that's not the point! Of they can do it and look after DC's why not all the time?
I do worry about when DH looks after Ds for a day a week when I go back to work, he doesn't have a clue. Thinking of suggesting a practice few of hours, saying it's to get Ds used to me not being there but really it's for DH. A few hours first will be easier than 9 hours for all of us. The longest DH has had D's is 1hour 20, they went for a walk (D's slept for most of it) at home the longest he's looked after Ds without me is 20 minutes.

Awful night here. Ds hasn't had a poo for a couple of days and has lots of wind so I think that's keeping him up.

Hi all! Just checking in. Been trying to avoid my phone at night so I can maximise my chances of sleep (ha!)

I'm feeling better. Got antibiotics for what was a UTI and they started to help almost immediately. DH took day off yesterday to help with DS so that meant more rest for me not quite as much as I'd hoped for but hey

Last night was awful with DS though. Hourly wakings from 10.30. Think he might have managed a two hour stint somewhere but it's all a massively tired blur. The really annoying thing is, he's obviously hugely tired and rubbing away at his eyes! But can't settle! Hard not to get v frustrated at him.

Feeling quite negative about it this morning. DH was saying it'll get better, we just need to get to six months/weaning/crawling, but I reminded him that we said all that with DD...and she didn't consistently sleep through till 2 years and 3 months! Even now she still gets up to tricks, last night she was v unsettled so that didn't help.

I just feel something has to give! I keep getting ill and it's no surprise. Think having to take yesterday off work made DH realise just how inconvenient an ill wife is, hopefully we can work out how he can support me more.

That's what I thought too @MummyCuddlesSolveEverything and @onone85 but I thought now is not the time to pick fights. He promised me it wasn't point scoring and he also said that he doesn't think he's a very good dad so it could be lack of confidence or not knowing what to do with her? But then sometimes I feel bad because I do sit with her and play and we get out the house a lot so I don't have a lot of time to make the house spotless because I'm busy doing things with her !

Argh!!! I am so very tangry today! The slightest thing is setting me off! I can't keep on like this, anyone else in a similar state?

I've got the feeling tonight is going to be a bad night. Not sure why but got a gut feeling. I should really have gone sleep ages ago but got lost in an AIBU cf thread.

Can anyone help/relate to this...

DS is EBF (won't take bottle)
He will be 10 weeks on Sat
For the last 3 nights he has had to sleep in our bed, as it seems every 5 mins he is squirming and wriggling and unable to settle.

I am at breaking point, totally exhausted through sleeping with one eye open due to co sleeping and also having to console/rub his back to get him back off.

Please help

Can anyone help/relate to this...

DS is EBF (won't take bottle)
He will be 10 weeks on Sat
For the last 3 nights he has had to sleep in our bed, as it seems every 5 mins he is squirming and wriggling and unable to settle.

I am at breaking point, totally exhausted through sleeping with one eye open due to co sleeping and also having to console/rub his back to get him back off.

Please help

Yet another bad night here. Realising DS is never going to improve after this regression. He's just lost any ability to sleep for long. Same happened with DD so I shouldn't be surprised. But I am massively down about it.

Cheshire yup, DS won't take a bottle either. I know people are well meaning when they say 'could you just not express and make the next feed a bottle to give you some rest?' If it was that simple I'd be getting more sleep! I'd give so much to be able to share this with someone else and to get a night off occasionally. It's the sheer all on me relentless that I find so hard. So no advice but much sympathy.

Also, how's your blocked milk duct problem? Mine has returned and been here for about two weeks, getting worse though.

Cheshire I know how you feel, DS went through a phase of bottle refusing for several weeks. He will now take a bottle in the day but not for night wakings.

whoateallthepercypigs I was so tangry on Tuesday and I felt so guilty for feeling like that. I did a kit day yesterday and strangely although I was even more tired I felt really positive after actually using my brain.

DS is 8 months and I am finally starting to feel like he may one day sleep through. I have attached a pic of the symptoms that made me realise he might have silent reflux in case it helps anyone. He didn't develop symptoms until 6 months and I thought it was just the regression.

cheshire
Have you tried raising his cot slighlty with a towel under the mattress? This helped mine slightly but he was up A LOT with wind.

@cheshiremama89 I have a reflux pillow for a Moses basket if you would like it. Dd is too big for it now

Absolutely shit night. I feel so guilty for the feelings I'm having towards DS this morning. I cant even look at him because I've got to the point where I feel like he's doing it purpose to just really piss me off.
I've had a grand total of 3 hours sleep all night, cried most of it and watched more episodes of peppa pig than I would like. Ah knew I was upset and at breaking point and carried on pretending to be asleep. I know he was pretending because, while I was doing laps of the landing, I saw the bedroom light up as he checked his phone. Presumably to check how many hours of sleep he had left 😡

@WhoAteAllthePercyPigs hope you're ok. Relentless is exactly the word id use to describe it aswell. I feel I've reached my absolute peak this morning. 😢

Dh looked at me as we came up for the second time this morning and said 'oh what a good lie in'

Murder is acceptable isn't it?

My reply was 'oh PLEASE do TELL ME MORE'

He then said 'but you get naps'

I said 'no, I get to have exhausted haze naps - it's not the same as being really well rested AND having a lie in'

FML.

So sorry to hear of all the AHs. Remember we can provide an alibi and spade here, no questions asked...

@onone so glad it's not just me feeling like that. The final straw happened for me at breakfast. I'd bought myself a decadent M&S chocolate crunch cereal. DS was crying in his bouncy chair so i picked him up while he ate. Whereupon he caught by bowl with his flailing fists and milk and cereal went everywhere. All over the table, floor and my clean outfit. Ashamed to say I lost it and shouted and cried.

I cannot keep on like this. I'm scared I am going to do something i will regret. I'm running on empty and nothing is changing

Not a great night. Ds was up every 1hour and a half/2hours. I'm downstairs and DH is still sleeping upstairs. I've tried waking him up when i go downstairs, he sets an alarm for 830! and it still doesn't work... it's like living with a teenager.

Cheshire sounds exactly like my Ds. Got to about 10weeks and I couldn't put him down. I ended up safe co sleeping with his cot with the side taken off next to my side of the bed. It was the only way either of us got any sleep. He also won't take a bottle, I gave up because it was extra work and frustrating. Now he's 6months I'm giving him bits of milk in a sippy cup or straight from a cup so I know he'll have milk when I'm back at work.

frozen completely acceptable

Some of you struggling with ahs might relate to this.. www.the-pool.com/life/parenting-honestly/2018/15/Nell-Frizzell-on-hands-on-dads

Sorry to hear lots of us are struggling. We were up every couple of hours, Ds kept waking himself up coughing so I was in and out of his room. Dh is happy I'm no longer co sleeping but my goodness it makes it even more tiring for me.

@whoateallthepercypigs sending you sounds like you're having a really tough time. Will you get a break or any rest over the weekend. I've had a few moments where I have lost it and shouted, felt so guilty. But we are only human and being pushed to our very limits. Sending hugs and another pack of the decadent cereal!!

Thanks everyone, the more I hear the more I think its a reflux issue.

He is constantly pulling off the breast but unable to be winded half the time, he does however trump like a trooper!

@tealandteal That literally sounds like DS, I may go to gp next week and see what he suggests.

@WhoAteAllthePercyPigs I'm a bit cross really, lump is still there and still not had a call from the referral team.
It's been a month now so I'm starting to think it could be something else.
I hope yours goes soon! It's the engorgement that gets me! So uncomfortable!

@FrozenMargarita17 That's very kind of you! I would certainly give anything a try! x

Ladies how do you actually get your little ones to sleep in the first place? We're almost 19 weeks, we had been feeding to sleep, but all of a sudden this week that's stopped working.. she feeds, falls asleep then wakes up and screams for hours whilst I'm desperately walking around with her until she eventually goes to sleep. At this point I feel like we may as well be doing CIO because nothing seems to console her it's horrible & so hard :(

@cheshiremama89 if you PM me your address I'm happy to post when I go to town next :)