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The non-sleepers are still not sleeping

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NinaMarieP · 27/03/2018 08:59

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Catscatsandmorecats · 07/04/2018 05:31

@haypanky I'd be interested to hear too. I really hope it helps and you finally get some sleep.

@whoateallthepercypigs I hope tonight is going a bit better for you after your dreadful one.

On feed 3 here with DS2, he had done a few nights of two feeds and longer stretches of sleep so I got all over enthusiastic but he's gone backwards again. DS1 has also been up, I think it was a nightmare so I haven't slept at all since half 3 sand only got a few broken hours before that. I don't think I'll be quite as productive today as I was earlier bin the week

Madamswearsalot · 07/04/2018 05:52

My 1yr old DS has been asleep on me or crying hysterically since 3am. I can't put him down and it's driving me a bit crazy. Tried waiting, more milk, calpol. Everything other than sleeping on me results in screaming.

I'm hoping it won't last but at this time of night/day it's hard not to imagine it going on for weeks or months. My pessimistic side really wakes up in the early hours!

I thought this bit was done - it was like this when he was newborn but until recently it's not been an issue.

I hope everyone else with a sleep thief is slumbering peacefully right now!

UtterlyConfused111 · 07/04/2018 06:45

No no mine woke herself up with a poo at 517am

WhoAteAllthePercyPigs · 07/04/2018 08:44

Morning all.

@teal thanks for sharing the thread about the loft hatch, but yikes! Very very scary stuff!

Past two nights have been slightly better. Last night wasn't helped by DD waking up for a 3am whine. But we got through it. DH took DS for an hour and a half so I could get some sleep but wasn't long enough!

Thinking of trying the bottle again with DS. He started to refuse it but maybe he just needed a break from it?? Like with DD, I'm starting to really suffer with it just being all on me. He did use to take one so there is hope?!

What's everyone up to today? We have a fairly chilled day with just a party for DD to go to. So that will help. Am in bed with DS who's asleep on me in his first nap of the day.

WhoAteAllthePercyPigs · 07/04/2018 08:45

Oh and @madam my pessimistic side is wildly active during the wee hours! Harder when they're older because you feel they really shouldn't be doing this by now! Hope your night improved.

onone85 · 07/04/2018 08:53

Awful night here too. AH got some sleep though so apparently that's all that matters 🙄

@Madamswearsalot my pessimistic side is currently on point throughout the whole 24 hour period lately. I also become quite impulsive when I'm sleep deprived so caved and ordered a myhummy at 3.15 this morning

GinUnicorn · 07/04/2018 20:04

Mine was tough too :(

WhoAteAllthePercyPigs · 07/04/2018 20:11

How are we all as we gear up for another evening?

Today's been a struggle. I've not been feeling too well - definitely have caught this cold from DS - and it's really affecting my mood. Plus DS has been very unsettled and fractious, something is definitely going on for him. Both DC were hugely tired at bedtime and the tears and wailing were more challenging than usual!

I'm feeling glum because it's Saturday night, I'd been looking forward to having a drink and watching some TV (Save Me on Now TV, it's so good!) But I feel so lousy that all I want to do is go to bed now. And I know DH will be disappointed but then he's not the one on njghtshift is he?

Meanwhile I'm seeing friends on social media with younger babies who are out and about and managing a social life. Onr just boasted that her DS slept through last night. I know, I know, comparing is a bad thing to do but it's so hard not to!

Bleurgh. Going to make a Lemsip and go to bed I think...busy day tomorrow of bed shopping and another birthday party...

tealandteal · 07/04/2018 20:14

Long night last night for us as well but on the plus side DS took a bottle well. I'm doing a kit day next week attached work so I was worried.

WhoAteAllthePercyPigs · 07/04/2018 21:38

What bottle did you use teal? That's great! I know I should try a bottle again with DS, might do it soon. He may surprise me!

UtterlyConfused111 · 07/04/2018 21:57

@whoateallthepercypigs
I know how you feel the Saturday night
I just want some time off that I don’t have to use to sleep...

onone85 · 07/04/2018 22:26

@WhoAteAllthePercyPigs I totally understand what you mean about Saturday night.. I really should've been in bed earlier but both DC have only just settled down and gone to bed ffs. hope you feel better soon.

We're away, so routine is out the window. DS went to sleep at normal time of 630ish but in the pushchair while we went for tea.. then obviously felt totally recharged and woke up when we got back and continued to power round our accommodation at 60mph until 5 minutes ago. On the plus side he's took a bottle really well and settled straight off to sleep so I'm crossing every single possible thing that he stays there.

Here's to a good night for all. Sending positive thoughts.

Meepmoop · 07/04/2018 23:01

We're not doing very well tonight. DS has screamed for the last hour. I think he has a sore throat as every time he swallowed he was worse. I'm now trying to feed him back to sleep but not going very well.

I also could of gone bed earlier but he has had a few good nights so thought I would stay up. Paying for it now though

Madamswearsalot · 07/04/2018 23:50

@WhoAteAllThePercypigs it is really hard not to compare with others. Whatever people put on social media isn't a true reflection of their reality but it's hard to remember that. And Saturday nights - I always end up late to bed, torn between regretting it and as @utterly said, having time that isn't sleeping or kid-wrangling.

@onone85 - I have my fingers crossed that the myhummy is as good as all the glowing reviews it has. Think of it as proactive rather than pessimistic!!

I hope everyone's night is a good one. My DH is on night duty so at least I've got a fighting chance of a full night.

tealandteal · 07/04/2018 23:50

whoateallthepercypigs it was a tommee tippee one, he's been on and off with bottles but I just got the next size up teat and he seems happy. Hope you feel better soon! Also worth checking you have the paracetamol only lemsips I think decongestants can affect milk supply? You're probably already checked.

WhoAteAllthePercyPigs · 08/04/2018 04:28

Well as predicted, it's a bad night. He's been wide awake for two hours now. Wriggling around the bed. So tired I feel sick.

Haypanky · 08/04/2018 06:33

So, a typical night with ds 11 months old has looked like this : bed at 6:30, no problem. 9pm, makes some noises, settles himself. 1ish, wakes up, starts to cry, mum or dad go in and try to settle him. Crying/fussing/settling continues 1-2hrs. Mum shoves dad awake, mum & dad have a hissed argument about what to do. Calpol and watered down formula are bunged at ds. Eventually, possibly just through the passage of time, ds goes back to sleep. It's often about 2:30-3am by his point. 4:15am, ds wakes again. Exhausted mum bungs him some of his breakfast milk and he goes back to sleep. 5:45, ds wakes again, mum gives in and calls it morning.

This has been what's happened most nights for several months now.

I went back to work a fortnight ago and caught the office bug, so have been a snotty coughing mess. For 3 nights I got dh up to do the night shift, because coughing does not sooth a baby to sleep. Dh was dying a death after 3 nights, and announced we should call in a sleep consultant.

I should explain by this point that we've tried several sleep training techniques already. In fact, pretty much all of them! In order, we did pick up /put down when ds was younger, disappearing chair /gradual retreat, controlled crying (we cracked before he did!), my own patented technique, the mini bedtime, we have also just given up and got him up for a few hours in the night for a while.

So yesterday morning I found and booked a local sleep consultant, handed over £180 (there goes my new shed!), and had a first consultation via Skype.

We agreed that we were going to have to do controlled crying. I thought we were at this point anyway, and the consultant got dh onboard.

We packed dd off to the grandparents for the night, warned the neighbours and steeled ourselves.

Who would like to guess what ds did last night?

UtterlyConfused111 · 08/04/2018 09:52

@haypanky
What happened?! Please tell me it helped!

Jellybean2017 · 08/04/2018 09:53

@haypanky did he sleep through?!

WhoAteAllthePercyPigs · 08/04/2018 09:56

Yes, don't keep us in suspense @haypanky!

Catscatsandmorecats · 08/04/2018 10:02

@haypanky - what happened?!

Better night last night here with DS2. Although I came back from feeding him to find DS1 in my place in the bed! He was asleep so just transferred him back to his own bed, goes against all the work I've been putting in but at least I wasn't up for hours, I even gave DH a lie in this morning.

Haypanky · 08/04/2018 10:25

He slept through!!! As in, at haven't even changed anything yet, totally out of the blue!!! Put him to bed at 6:30, heard him chatting at 5:10 for 5 mins, went back off, got up at 6!

Haypanky · 08/04/2018 10:26

Goodness knows how rebellious he's going to be as a teenager!!!! 😂

Catscatsandmorecats · 08/04/2018 11:10

He knew you'd spent the money 😂

UtterlyConfused111 · 08/04/2018 13:34

Lol
Well done @baby haypanky
Hope you enjoyed the night off :-)

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