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Non-sleepers unite...

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Jellybean2017 · 18/01/2018 22:40

New thread for night (and daytime!) chatter for those awake more than they'd like with a non sleeping baby/child 😊

My DS is five months. First baby likely to be only baby if I don't start getting more sleep He is a nap and sleep fighter but incredibly cute so I choose to forgive him 😂

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Bains091115 · 16/02/2018 15:02

My nearly 2 year old wakes for 1-3 hours EVERY night too for a sing song even though he's slept through since 8 weeks old!

Meepmoop · 16/02/2018 19:12

I'm attempting to get DS asleep in his cot and then to go downstairs to watch TV and eat ice cream with DH. I hope it happens

UtterlyConfused111 · 16/02/2018 19:14

Dd1 has a cold. She will pass to all of us including the baby. Kill me now...

lizzlebizzle33 · 16/02/2018 19:23

Good luck @Meepmoop

Meepmoop · 16/02/2018 19:31

I'm downstairs! Feel a bit on edge though like there's a bomb upstairs.

lizzlebizzle33 · 16/02/2018 19:35

He'll be awake as soon as you crack that ice cream open, they can smell it.

We can't make toast after ds1 goes to bed, it always wakes him up.

xxrealistmumxx · 16/02/2018 19:47

utterlyconfused111 yes we used Ferber method, though adapted the check in times to something more comfortable for us. LO is 25weeks on Sunday and we started it two weeks ago as it just felt like the right time. Ferber suggests 4-5 months but I felt that was too soon. At 5 months LO started sitting unaided, cut first tooth and started with some purées, I felt like he'd come through a big developmental stage and it felt ok to sleep train.

I'd say it's really important you feel ready as it can be tough going. One thing that can help is to write down all the reasons why you want to do it and keep that in sight if LO is crying a lot. Also totally imperative to have DH or another loving adult by your side / helping with soothing baby and you!

meepmoop hope you're enjoying ice cream!!

Good luck for tonight. We actually had a bad one last night - first time I've been out with friends I didn't go to bed at 9 usual and some reason LO didn't settle after his dream feed with OH and cried for a bit so it was after 1130 when I need. Was then up from about 530am as LO unsettled again A far cry from how our nights used to be but I'm feeling especially tired today as I guess I'm already used to getting more solid chunks of sleep!

xxrealistmumxx · 16/02/2018 19:47

utterlyconfused111 yes we used Ferber method, though adapted the check in times to something more comfortable for us. LO is 25weeks on Sunday and we started it two weeks ago as it just felt like the right time. Ferber suggests 4-5 months but I felt that was too soon. At 5 months LO started sitting unaided, cut first tooth and started with some purées, I felt like he'd come through a big developmental stage and it felt ok to sleep train.

I'd say it's really important you feel ready as it can be tough going. One thing that can help is to write down all the reasons why you want to do it and keep that in sight if LO is crying a lot. Also totally imperative to have DH or another loving adult by your side / helping with soothing baby and you!

meepmoop hope you're enjoying ice cream!!

Good luck for tonight. We actually had a bad one last night - first time I've been out with friends I didn't go to bed at 9 usual and some reason LO didn't settle after his dream feed with OH and cried for a bit so it was after 1130 when I need. Was then up from about 530am as LO unsettled again A far cry from how our nights used to be but I'm feeling especially tired today as I guess I'm already used to getting more solid chunks of sleep!

lizzlebizzle33 · 16/02/2018 21:00

About to try and put ds2 in his cot after 3 night sleeping with me while he's been poorly.
I've got a feeling he won't stay there long though, and I'll be too tired to fight it.

DP bought me a huge bar of fruit and nut earlier so that's gonna keep me going!

Meepmoop · 16/02/2018 21:12

Ice cream has been eaten, an episode of Homeland watched and I'm now in bed. DS is still asleep for now but I'm sure he'll wake up as soon as I drift off. It was nice to have a bit of the evening to ourselves, it felt like old times especially after all the hours DH has worked this week.

Hope everyone is having a good start to the night and the transfer goes okay @lizzlebizzle33

IntoTheWoods84 · 16/02/2018 21:58

Hey! Can I join?

My DS is 6 months and has been a terrible sleeper since about 11 weeks. We thought it was CMPA or lactose intolerance and eventually after cutting out dairy and using colief we got his tummy under control. But now I have a baby that wakes every 45 minutes all night long. He’s a real screamer too so it’s prrtty intense.

We gave in for the sake of sanity and started CC last week which had some immediate good effects - he seemed happier and slept longer, although still waking 5-6 times a night. But we’re now on holiday so grappling major baby jet lag and a total regression from independent sleep. Absolutely shattered and have no idea what to do. Feel like a total failure as a mother and in need of some support from fellow non sleepers!
x

AMagdalena · 16/02/2018 22:16

DD has let me catch up on East Enders tonight. I even had a cuppa with DH. Wowzer.

Now, time to attempt a cot transfer.

cheshiremama89 · 16/02/2018 23:24

Cluster fed since 8pm

Please tell me it gets better

He's 2 weeks tomorrow

I need sleep Sad

Meepmoop · 17/02/2018 04:19

It's very quiet, is everyone asleep?

I'm on feed 3, it's a wake up every 2 hours night tonight. DS is going into his cot easily though so that's a bonus.

@cheshiremama89 I promise it gets better, cluster feeding does feel relentless but it will end

lizzlebizzle33 · 17/02/2018 06:34

Just woken up by the trickle of milk running across my chest, first time I've ever had a leak, normally feeding every hour in the night!

We were up at 1 as usual, had my hands full cleaning Ds' gunky eyes and clearing his nose again but he went back to sleep fine, just fed him now and he's back to sleep!

He is in my bed though, he lasted all of 5 minutes in his cot. He's still struggling lying on his back with this cold poor thing.

I can hear ds1 awake now, chatting to himself. That's dps job while ds2 is poorly though so he will be getting s nudge in a minute.

@Meepmoop it is very quiet, I hope that means everyone got some sleep.

Catscatsandmorecats · 17/02/2018 07:07

It will get better cheshiremana two weeks is still so small.

Intothewoods84 (love the username) hi - I hope you manage to continue some sleep training while you're away so you get some relaxation.

Well done on the ice cream and telly meepmoop it's terrifying the first time!

We drove up to my BILs last night at bedtime, nearly three hours in the car and barring a little bit of crying from DS2 and a little whinging from DS1 it was OK and we didn't need to stop.

DS1 did really well overnight (it helps he's sleeping in his cousins playroom). And DS2 only had a four feed night which is a massive success for his first night in the travel cot and in a cold room.

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Jellybean2017 · 17/02/2018 08:27

I went out for dinner with friends last night so DH started the sleep training. I am told it took about forty minutes for DS to go to sleep. However I co-slept from about midnight onwards so I'm guessing I need to stop doing that or DS will get confused 😕 it's so hard.

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lizzlebizzle33 · 17/02/2018 08:48

@Jellybean2017 I've never been a co sleeper, ds1 was always put in his cot from day1. We used to have several night wakings which were exhausting but now he sleeps through from 7pm til 8am.

Ds2 on the other hand has been so poorly he couldn't breathe properly on his back so I brought him in with me a few nights ago an I have to say it's the best sleep I've ever had!

Obviously it would be nice to have my space to myself and be able to toss and turn but ds2 has slept so much better in my bed I completely get why people do it now. And he's so snuggly.

Trying to get him back in his cot is going to be difficult now I know but o think I'm secretly in no rush.

AMagdalena · 17/02/2018 10:50

DD did another stint in the cot last night. Hope this continues!
Up at 2am and 6.30am, so pretty good.

@Jellybean Hope sleep training works for you. I couldn't do it for various reasons.
I am keen to tackle naps in one way or another.

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Jellybean2017 · 17/02/2018 11:13

Thanks @AMagdalena. Not sure I'm totally on board with trying it either 🙈 but do feel we need to do something...

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AMagdalena · 17/02/2018 20:36

@Jellybean I don't think I would be on board with it, to be honest, but the biggest issue of all would be lack of consistency and energy on my part!

Can you develop SPD postpartum? I feel like that's what I have. Really painful. Probably my 'lovely' labour has caused this.
A trip to the doctors is in order, I am afraid.

DD is asleeo...for now. Now time to attempt to roll away from her, so I can have an hr with DH downstairs. Here's hoping.

Meepmoop · 17/02/2018 21:16

Late to bed here me and DH have had date night. MIL looked after DS and we went out for an early tea and a cocktail.

@AMagdalena hope you've managed to sneak away downstairs. My hip has been really painful lately to, hope the doctors can sort it.

Time for to attempt the transfer..

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Jellybean2017 · 18/02/2018 01:55

I'm on the second night feed, he just slept for 3 hours 35 which is good. He's taking about 20 minutes to settle to sleep. I've got a video monitor so I can see if he's asleep or not. We are going in to comfort every few minutes until he is asleep. It's hard, I won't lie. But he rarely sleeps for a 3 hour 35 block when we co-sleep and he doesn't seem too upset in all honesty. Not sure why I'm writing this. I know everyone has different opinions on sleep training.

I hope everyone else is having a good sleep night!

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lizzlebizzle33 · 18/02/2018 02:14

@Jellybean2017 whatever works for you to keep you sane and get some much needed rest.

I tried ds2 on his cot again tonight but He had a coughing fit and got all upset m, must have a sore throat still, so he's ended up back in with me.
Can't stand seeing him I'll like this.

I've lost count Of what feed were on bit at least I've been able to snooze through them and he's gone right back to sleep.

I hope your little one carries on the good work and let's you get some sleep.x

MrsGB2225 · 18/02/2018 02:37

Jelly I always start off the night with the best intentions of trying to get DS to sleep without a feed everytime he wakes (1-2hourrs) but by the time it gets to 4 I'm so tired from not sleeping all night xxx