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Non-sleepers unite...

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Jellybean2017 · 18/01/2018 22:40

New thread for night (and daytime!) chatter for those awake more than they'd like with a non sleeping baby/child 😊

My DS is five months. First baby likely to be only baby if I don't start getting more sleep He is a nap and sleep fighter but incredibly cute so I choose to forgive him 😂

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WhoAteAllthePercyPigs · 28/01/2018 21:15

FlowersCakeWine all round for you amazing ladies. Especially to you @xxrealistmum. I totally get what you mean about the crying and fussing- like you, I could perhaps cope if DS was happy to lie quietly or coo away whilst awake, but the thrashing and shouting drives me mad! I'm either having to bounce him up and down or walk around with him. I mean, I can't even look at Mumsnet!!

Reached a low point too today. All day I've felt utterly drained and low. Back is hurting and just doing anything feels like an overwhelming effort. I'm eating crap because I'm craving the sugar, then hating myself for it. It is such hard work.

But...it WILL pass it has to for the sake of our sanity. And we WILL cope. I got through two years of DD not sleeping and I can get through this.

@worldpeas we'd never turn anyone away! However, we're collectively kept awake by our babies - so if you're seeking some insomnia support it might not be the best thread for you. Is it pregnancy keeping you up? (many of us can sympathise with that!) There's some really good support for pregnancy insomnia on the pregnancy thread.

Good luck all and fingers crossed for better nights....please....

WhoAteAllthePercyPigs · 28/01/2018 21:17

Oh and @utterlyconfused we also have non ending colds here! It's grim...

AMagdalena · 28/01/2018 21:23

@cats It has worked out, thanks. She's asleep. Well, for now at least Hmm

Day 3 of my crazy diet is now complete.
I thought it would be a kind of detox, but nope, I can still have crisps.
Countless foods I can't have, but crisps are fine.
This diet had better work is all I am saying.

Fingers crossed for plenty of zzzzzz's for all of us and especially for those whose LO's have been playing professional sleep thieves lately.

UtterlyConfused111 · 28/01/2018 21:42

Night night everyone...
(One glass of wine and I feel all fuzzy - it’s ridiculous)
I’ve had a breakthrough. I’ve decided to liquidate all my savings and sell all my liquid assets and be broke for the rest of my life and get a night nanny. It’s either that or sell DD2 on eBay.
@worldpeas have a baby, great cure for insomnia. Now I can sleep anywhere, anytime, mid sentence if given the chance

Catscatsandmorecats · 28/01/2018 21:53

DS2 is very unsettled, on feed one now after a couple of resettles too. That's karma for my smug happy holiday post. It could be a looooooong night.

actino · 28/01/2018 21:55

Gaaah! I had a successful cot transfer and Dd was drifting off when I realised that her sleeping bag was downstairs! Now she's wide awake and I have to start the whole process over again.

NinaMarieP · 29/01/2018 03:04

DS fell asleep around 8, having been fed at 6.30. I didn't do much to make him sleep but he was tired and I figured he would wake sooner or later for his usual 8/9 feed. He woke at 10ish, so 'great' I thought. He'll go his usual 6-7 hours now and I won't be up until at least 4am.

Two fucking thirty. Four hours and twenty minutes between feeds. He's done that and even longer during the day recently, why does he hate me??

Catscatsandmorecats · 29/01/2018 03:26

We are on to feed 4/wake up 6 now, DS2 is still unsettled, I can't work out why so my boobs and sleep are taking a hit

HashtagTired · 29/01/2018 03:42

So. Hello.
I'm still kicking around at night times. Realised that Ds has passed the 4 month regression but I really haven't noticed it to be honest. His sleep pattern is pretty rubbish anyway so it really didn't make a difference.

He's not sleeping for more than 2 hours at the moment. I think putting him in his own room is the next step but I can't bring myself to do it. Love having him so close to me in the Snüzpod. But having him there means I probably go to him when I neednt. Little boy is growing up so fast.

Hjonez · 29/01/2018 06:50

Hi guys,

I'm new to this! Have a 8 week old beautiful daughter who won't sleep unless on someone! She also won't take more than 2-3 ounces through the night but still wakes for the feeds Shock. I try and try to put her in her own snuzpod (co sleeping cot) but as soon as I do she's wide awake and crying! Send help BrewWine

UtterlyConfused111 · 29/01/2018 07:42

@hashtagtired
They do grow up fast don’t they? If only they slept better I would love them to stay this age for longer. But it does go by so fast!
With DD1 I slept so much better once I moved her to her own room; I had the monitor but I didn’t wake up for every grunt or movement or sneeze...

I’m feeling calmer today. In breaking news....
She had a dream feed at 1030. And then she didn’t wake up again till 630. She dropped her dummy 4/5 times but no feed, no wind, no crying. Just sleeping.

It will probably not happen again but it was good. I spent most of 5am onwards wide checking if she was still breathing (even though I could hear it).....

Jellybean2017 · 29/01/2018 07:44

...I need to catch up because DS just had an epic night. 2 x 3ish hour stints and 2 x 90 minute stints! I feel so refreshed! We were still co sleeping but I managed to get reasonably comfortable. I realise this was likely a one off...BUT at least I know it is possible for him to link his sleep cycles, and that feels good.

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Lallypopstick · 29/01/2018 08:14

@HashtagTired I missed my baby when we moved him into his room, kept looking at the empty snuzpod and watching him on the monitor, bereft. Night 3 and I’m enjoying being able to cough, sneeze, fart, move around in bed excessively etc. And we’re all sleeping better too.

HJonez welcome. We’ve all been there with the clingy baby who doesn’t want to sleep anywhere other than on us. Got to love that 4th trimester!

Hurray to UtterlyConfused111 and Jellybean2017 for their good nights! Progress!

Meepmoop · 29/01/2018 08:51

@HashtagTired I've found it much better with DS being in his own room. My successful transfer rates have gone up and he's sleeping 3/4 hour blocks some nights. Not all nights as last night proved. It's also nice having an adult room.

It was MIL birthday yesterday so we went to Rick Steins for a fancy charity meal which was really lovely. DS stayed at home with my DM looking after him and we came home to a happy DM and happy baby. We were gone nearly 5hours to! Only downside was an overtired baby but was nice to be out.

Glad to see there was some good nights last night.

Meepmoop · 29/01/2018 16:39

Today I've learned not to watch jumpy tv when holding a sleeping baby.

Has anyone watched the mist on Netflix, now on episode two.

AMagdalena · 29/01/2018 17:58

@Meepmoop I wouldn't recommend jumpy tv when bf either! Milk everywhere 🙈

Catscatsandmorecats · 29/01/2018 18:27

The jumpy TV made me smile!

Today has not been as good DS1 did not like nursery ski school but the instructor made us leave - he got into it by the end and was skiing a bit and was very proud of himself but he has just told me he was very sad when I left him. We may not go tomorrow, maybe try another day.

DS2 has a cold and us possibly having teeth trouble too which means he's not napping well and by the end of the day is so overtired he melts down.

Both are asleep in bed, for now!

And mum has injured herself, she's gutted and worried she's ruined our holiday, which she hasn't at all but it'll be a bit boring for her now and medical and travel logistics are going to be interesting.

I should not have been so pleased with it all yesterday

xxrealistmumxx · 29/01/2018 19:57

Thanks for the words of support. Sometimes it just gets too much, especially when there's no end in sight Sad

meepmoop that made me laugh! I'm not good with scary things at the best of times. Def not with sleep deprivation as it send my mind into overdrive in the wee hours!

Sorry to hear about your holiday challenges catscatsandmorecats hope your mum is ok and here's hoping there's no more injuries!

AMagdalena well done for sticking with the diet. It's hard work to begin with but worth it. Hope it helps LOs bowels.

We started weaning at the weekend. Just a little baby rice at lunchtime. So far he's lapping it up!

Had a bit of a miserable day - teething?? Very clingy and crying more than usual. Wish they came with a manual!

Teaching tonight so I'll be in bed later than usual. Praying LO will be kind!!

UtterlyConfused111 · 29/01/2018 20:10

@catacatsandmorecats
Well done on going on holiday and being adventurous. Hoping your mums injuries are ok. I was impressed to hear of your bf on the side of a ski slope - wow! I can’t even imagine how that’s possible under layers of ski clothes. But hopefully the rest of the holiday will recover. And good to hear of DS liking ski school eventually - I’m hoping we will be able to take ours next year when they are bigger.

@meepmoop
Is the mist good? I’ll give it a try. I can manage scary but nothing in which kids are getting hurt/murdered/lost/raped since I’ve had babies...

@xxrealistmum
I KNOW there is no link between the weaning and the sleeping... but DD1 slept through after we started so... I’m going to hope that it works the same way for you

Fingers crossed for a good night... I really think it’s not going to happen because she has dropped her dummy three times already since bedtime at 7pm, but at least I’m refreshed after last night ....

Meepmoop · 29/01/2018 20:37

@UtterlyConfused111 it's been good so far. There is upset around teenagers and an older child so might not be the best one for a minute.

@xxrealistmumxx were weaning at the minute. Are you going to do purees or baby led. I'm in the purée camp at the minute

Hope your mum is okay @Catscatsandmorecats

DS is on 20minute wake ups.... send help

HashtagTired · 29/01/2018 20:40

Thanks @UtterlyConfused111 @Lallypopstick and @Meepmoop. I will move him to his new room soon. It'll be good for all of us. I'm thinking when he's 16 😂

Good luck tonight, everyone!!

NinaMarieP · 29/01/2018 20:45

I thought we were recovering from the cold and all the screaming that went with it but no. After an ok weekend and ok morning... he has alternated long naps with screaming and feeding. We had one fifteen minute period where he was the happiest baby in the world then I fed him, around 7, and he would not go to sleep after so he has cried with increasing hysteria for the last hour and a bit...

Zampa · 29/01/2018 22:17

We also have the cold that never clears up @NinaMarieP and the whole family take it in turns to be poorly.

I've been trying not to Mumsnet at night as the action seems to wake up my brain, meaning it's difficult to get back to sleep. Consequently, wake up time is quite dull ATM.

@Meepmoop Was that the Children in Need dinner at Rick Stein's? Sounded awesome when they were auctioning it!

Re. box sets, I'd recommend Billions, if you have Sky.

Meepmoop · 29/01/2018 22:54

@Zampa it wasn't that one but it did look ace. He holds charity lunches for locals in the winter as it brings people into the restaurant and part of the price goes of to a charity. Its usually a set menu for a reduced amount. (Couldn't afford it else!)

Managed to get a 2 hour block off DS after the quick wake ups. Now feeding

WhoAteAllthePercyPigs · 30/01/2018 01:51

Ugh. First wake up at 1. Had to change nappy, DS wailed the place down. I'm fed up and hungry...