Non-sleepers unite...

[Jellybean2017]

New thread for night (and daytime!) chatter for those awake more than they'd like with a non sleeping baby/child 😊

My DS is five months. First baby likely to be only baby if I don't start getting more sleep He is a nap and sleep fighter but incredibly cute so I choose to forgive him 😂

Evening all - I've just found this thread and thought I'd pop in to say hello. Awake and feeling a bit lonely here tonight.

My DD is 14 weeks old and over the past week has been waking every 1-2 hours at night. She'll whimper until I pick her up and bring her into bed with me and feed her (she's EBF). She'll then fall asleep on me and stay there happily for as long as I'll let her. Once she's in a deep sleep I will put her back in her snuzpod and she'll either cry right away (if I'm not careful enough with the transfer!) or sleep for an hour before starting the whole routine again. It's exhausting and really ridiculous!

I'm not sure if she's waking from actual hunger or just looking for comfort. Is this a normal phase at around 3 months? Should I consider introducing a dummy to help her self soothe? I'm worried about this becoming our new normal 😩

@bassackwards morning and welcome
That sounds like what I was dealing with in the earlier weeks only more like 10mins before starting the process all over again but my DS has reflux.

I think it's a comfort thing too though do you have nightlight and white noise if they take a dummy maybe just introduce it for the night and perhaps if it works pooping dummy in couple times until they fall asleep if not hungry easier than starting that whole process again and less tiring for you!

I wish my DS would take a dummy tried lots of different ones and he just does not care for them at all only the boob will do which makes the thought of having a a day or night away for my birthday next month seem like a non starter!

Another night with less sleep.than the usual 2-3 hours stretches, so far tonight I’ve had less than 3 hrs sleep... DS had first lot of vaccinations yesterday afternoon and slept loads in the evening - on me I must add but once in his cot he didn’t sleep that well.

Welcome bassackwards, sorry I can’t really help as my ds is younger than yours (10 weeks old and won’t take a dummy) but I do hope their sleep will improve soon!

Thank you both, I'm tempted to give a dummy a try as user you suggest if things don't improve tomorrow night. Yeah we've already got the white noise going and the gro egg glowing :)

I hope you guys catch a bit of sleep and get through the day okay!

On wake up I don't know what. DS appears to be struggling to get comfy and then wakes himself up crying.

@bassackwards I would try a dummy. My DS wouldn't take one but I wish he did

About to get 2hrs kip DH has come to take over I got DS to skew in Moses for 1hr20 since get the reflux wedge and that's the longest he's gone without being in our arms for 9weeks!!! He's had a nappy change and 3oz of milk and now sleeping on DH shoulder until he's brave enough to try a transfer again.

Night everyone x

@bassackwards I sometimes use a dummy for my 11 week old and it does help calm her down. I only use it shortly after she's been fed so that I'm sure she's not actually asking me for food.

Every half a bloody hour since 130am ffs! I'm so sick of this. Currently headbutting me, writhing, crying out. In tears, can't go on like this

Thanks xxrealistmumxx I know they can't read books and normally when I do get to the point I turn to a book before I can start putting things into practice whatever the problem was starts to improve on its own anyway!

user1489931797 that's progress!

Hashtag I hope you did go off to sleep

We had a better night, only three feeds then up for the day at 6. What made it even better was DS1 slept the whole night - hooray!

DH took them both downstairs to try again with DS2 and some expressed milk in a sippy cup, it wasn't a success so I'm feeding him now. I don't think he's ever going to take a bottle, my boobs are going to be on duty until he's fully weaned.

4 hours sleep for me between 1-3 and 4.30-6.30

I’m exhausted.

So many bad nights 😶 ours started badly but turned out OK in the end with a three hour stretch in there somewhere. Can't remember last time he went more than two hours.

Welcome to new posters 😊

Hope you're ok @realistmum sounds like a tough one for you

Wish the partners could spend a day week in our place to see how difficult this really is. DH is generally brilliant but not sure he 100% understands!

Looks like a miserable day here so not sure we will be venturing far. We are moving house next week (hopefully) so need to get organised but DS has other ideas 🤔

@bassackwards
Welcome! I use a dummy; used one for both DD1 and DD2, but with strict rules - only for sleeping and only after a feed. It really helped me otherwise she would be at my boob 24/7. Dd1 had reflux and it helped with that too. Maybe worth a try? I find them invaluable; at nap time I just pop the dummy in her mouth and she goes to sleep all by herself! The problem is going to come when they are older and they have to give up the dummy but I will deal with that when it comes.... perhaps the “dummy fairy” will come ;-)

@xxrealistmumxx and @hashtagtired
hope you got some sleep in the end; it’s awful...

Baby was coughing and bunged up the whole night; no sleep. She would only sleep when being held. I almost fell asleep and off chair and one point; then we moved to the bed where I propped myself up with pillows and held her and snoozed a bit like in a aeroplane chair. Thinking they should invent the reclining pillow nursing bed for this situation.

I’m knackered. DH having a lie in as usual (he’s on holiday till feb). Dd1 woke up shouting and DD2 grumpy and refusing feed and I’m feeling frazzled..., already. Down in the kitchen watching DD1 reject breakfast like it’s poison. Feel like smothering DH - why he can’t he help even for 10 minutes so I can have a shower and brush my teeth? He’s been asleep the whole night and did nothing all day except make dinner. Feeling p1ssed off and resentful but thinking it’s prob the sleep deprivation. He’s just doing what he considers is normal and I’ve resigned myself to accept.

And we're back in the UK!
God knows how I managed to do the flight on my own. DD has a screaming fit at the beginning, but slept through the rest of thr flight.
Also, standard night here. Already had 2 poos 🙈💩

Sorry about the bad nights I can't imagine doing this with another little person to take care of! You're all amazing!

bassackwards hullo! My ds is about the same age as yours and just went through his worst sleeping faze since being a newborn! He won't take a dummy though but he does suck his thumb and forefinger which used to worry me but he can self soothe with it so I just leave him too it! It's hard to tell when he's hungry though... he's slept well the past 2 nights though so there is hope. His recent clingyness and bad sleep might have been down to him cutting his first 2 teeth so maybe yours has one moving around in there?

On another note he just let me PUT HIM DOWN for a nap !!! Expect he'll be up in a minute and finish napping on me but omg! This is me :

Welcome bassackwards hope you don't have to join us for too long! Another dummy user here. DS1 had a dummy terrible sleeper DD didn't a dream in comparison DS2 has suffered from reflux so we introduced a dummy which he uses mostly for sleeping, though often in the pushchair and car as he's not a fan of either.

For anyone worried about dummy use just gonna share that the cranial osteopath we saw said babies need to suck and that dummies are a good thing for them until they can self soothe. Also, for refluxy babies a dummy can help create more saliva to swallow which is a natural antacid.

That's the sleep thief awake from his first nap

Off to playgroup bleary eyed attempt to kill time til next crappy night

Our night wasn't terrible by this thread's standards but it wasn't good compared to recently.

2am feed instead of 3or4, awake and 5 and in with me, feed at 6 and then needed his dummy and/or putting and shushing every 15-30 minutes after that. If he was awake properly and wanted to play that would have been ok but he was tired and wanted to sleep and ended up sleeping until 9am, but I couldn't get much sleep or get up and do anything because he needed me constantly.

His dad's got man flu, I've got a cold but still did my circuits class yesterday (💪) so he's maybe feeling a bit rubbish himself though he doesn't seem bunged up or anything yet.

Twat is not a strong enough word for the dad who won't do a 10.30 feed, it's ten fucking thirty for fucks sake not the middle of the night!! Dream feed, so not even having to pick the baby up and he could be in bed by 11. Arsehole!

I did try to use a dummy but she never wanted it. Once or twice it worked but that’s it. She wants the real deal. Boobie or nothing!

You DH sounds, tbh, awful. If he’s not at work he should be helping out, end of story. If he’s sleeping all night he should be letting you sleep in, or taking them out for a bit so you can nap.

Women nowadays do so much and accept so little from partners. Put your foot down!

@utterlyconfused it's not sleep deprivation, he sounds very unsupportive!

@emberblu well done, hope baby stayed down for nap

@ninamariep it's so frustrating when they're tired but won't sleep 🙄

My DS won't take a dummy, tried for ages and all different types 😶 we didn't try him with it until six weeks though so may have been too late...

We were really lucky with dummies, we tried one at 4 weeks and he went from howling to happily lying in his Moses basket sucking it in an instant and we are still using the same dummies now (Philips avent). He didn't like them at night at first but a few more weeks in and he would then take it at night too.

He mostly has it for sleep, naps and nighttime unless he feeds to sleep. Sometimes in the car or pram and sometimes when he's truly grouchy and just wants to cuddle.

Unrelated to sleep sorry, but at 7 weeks we have just had our first poosplosion bad enough for me to throw out the vest & babygrow... oh the horror!

@utterlyconfused sorry but your DH is not being supportive. Please don't feel you should accept it because he's not pulling his weight. I don't want to dictate to you as it's your relationship and none of my business...but please don't suffer anymore than you need to, It's not fair on you

Sorry to hear of all the bad nights.

Well been a shitty start to today (and I'm not just talking about DS and his monster poos). After epic tantrumming from DD and a battle to both her and DS ready for the nursery run, the sodding car wouldn't start. Call insurance people, discover we don't have home start cover thanks DH and your cheapskate ways'. So had to call a taxi to get there, DD very unsettled and teething so very grumpy. Had to treat myself to a chocolate muffin and latte after all that! Don't know what we will do about the car...DH can sort when he's home.

Now home and watching Friends snuggled with DS.

He stayed down for 45 minutes! He was still tired but would not go back to sleep. He's had 2 mini naps since but one on me and the other in the sling while I was vacuuming. Might try a put down for his late afternoon nap but we will see...

Important question - share bags of crisps are for one aren't they?!

@WhoAteAllthePercyPigs that sounds like a nightmare, I hope your car gets sorted

@discombobulatedwomble I am sure that will be the first of many baby clothes ruined 💩 😂

@Whoateallthepercypigs that sounds bloody stressful!! Definitely let DH sort it!!

@meepmoop yes, absolutely. Same as sharing bags of maltesers 😊

Damn @jellybean2017, was about to nap for half an hour whilst DD is in bed before DH comes home, but now I want chocolate 🤣