The great non-sleepers - the sequel

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New thread!

Bedtime for me, whilst partner is doing last feed downstairs. Will hopefully give me 2 hours unbroken sleep. Cranky little one due to eye infection and tummy trouble still so don't hold out much hope for sleep after he's brought to bed. so good to know there's others finding it just as difficult as me. X

jellybean the jumperoo poo sounds hideous, I'm glad you had a laugh at it at least. DS2 has a habit of doing all up his back, he's not quite big enough to go in his jumperoo for long at the moment but I fear it's only a matter of time.

DS2 does seem to be following in his big brothers footsteps and at not quite 4 months teething has started I've already done feed no.1 - I fear it is going to be a looooooong night.

Good luck ladies

What a day.

Woke up at 520 and gave Dd a nice big feed because our plan was to be on the road for 8 to drive back home (a 6 hour drive pre-baby). After the feed she spit up a lot of blood, so we called 999 and they sent out paramedics. She was in A&E on Saturday for the same reason (though much much less blood) and both the A&E doctor and paediatrician concluded that she was healthy and that the blood came from a cracked nipple. The paramedics concluded that same thing today, so we started up the road.

My hv recommended expressing so that I would see if my nipple was bleeding before she ate. We also gave her a formula feed this afternoon so that we could examine her spit up for blood to make sure that it wasn't coming from her).
We finally made it home at 7ish, I fed her on the boob without the cracked nipple (but with the blocked duct & mastitis), and she's been screaming off and on from wind/colic since about 830. Dh has let me go to bed but I'm so physically and emotionally exhausted that I can't sleep. I can't hear her now, so he may have gotten her settled.

Hoping for a decent overnight tonight, but I'm sure I'll be up in a few hours.

I'm going to be a little bit rangy-pants....
I've been ill the last couple of days, only a head cold but felt wakeful. It's not like dh would forget this because I've lost my voice and have the most hacking cough.
3 our of the last 4 nights, for whatever reason, I have brought ds to bed with me which has ck promised my everso precious 4 hour sleep block between 8-12 midnight. And I have told dh previously, which I thought he understood, that it is psychologically crushing if he wakes me up before midnight when bringing ds up to me. Dh doesn't start work until Monday and so I had assumed that dh would allow me at least the normal 4 hour block but NO! He wakes me at 11:30! I'm really annoyed.
We even talked earlier how tonight is likely to be a shit night because Ds has slept for a long time whilst we were out and about today, and so has fed less and likely to be awake longer. So he knew tonight would be shit too.

I'm so on the edge of sanity and it's stunts like this that will send me over.
And, you guessed it, I'm not sat up feeding in my horrible bed with bloody back ache already and I should be asleep!
So annoyed.

I know how frustrating that can be! My Dh didn't realise how hard the overnights are, but gets it now that he's done them for two weeks with us.

Hopefully your Ds will surprise you with a few hours sleep!

Actino hope you get to the bottom of it soon. DD's still not asleep 😳

@actino that sounds really stressful, hope you are able to get to the bottom of it soon.

@Hashtag that must have been so bloody annoying 😱 I hope DS is kind to you.

This is our third wake up of the night. Think he wakes out of habit now 🙈 as he doesn't feed for long.

@actino and @HashtagTired big hugs to you both. hope you both manage to get semi decent nights to make up for the stressful day/start to the night.

ds has just given me 2.5 hours. here's hoping for the same again however now suspect this is the start of the usual hourly wakes and refusal to go back down. last few nights have been though. can cope with them as one offs but we seem to be developing a bit of a pattern. suspect this is the dreaded 4 month regression coming a few weeks early. how long will this last?

ah failed cot transfer. did bum first too. groan

Ok, so I've just had 5 hrs of sleep and woke DD to change her nappy

Thanks everyone. We see the hv today and I am going to get a referral to the breastfeeding clinic.

Dd has been asleep downstairs with Dh for the last 2 hours and just gulped down a bottle of formula, so we'll attempt to put her to sleep after burping.

Definitely had a twinge of sadness at not doing the feed myself :(

Uggh, second nappy blow our of the day. We're having blow outs pretty frequently, maybe it's time to switch to the next size up?

Thanks everyone.
He's just woken me up after sleeping 2 hours.

Feed #2
I had hoped for a longer sleep, of course I did. He slept for two hours which means I slept for just over 1. It's taking me a while to get back to sleep these days.
One so tired now though, it's my back beginning to ache during this feed that's probably keeping me awake. So, so tired.

Throwing up blood rounds horrific, hopefully it does turn out to be your blood and not hers!

LO was in bed by 8 but woke at 10. Probably could have settled with his dummy but I decided as he was awake I might as well feed him in the hope he would go longer. He had a pretty good feed, about 10 minutes on each side and went back down... and lasted til 2am. He went until 2.35 a few nights earlier without an extra, late night feed. Absolutely no rhyme or reason here!!

I'm glad he lasted past 1am of course but I got to bed a lot later than planned so it's not as great as it could have been.

Just to finish off my rant (sorry, but this is like therapy), dh is actually going back to work on Saturday, not Monday as I posted earlier. He's booked work for every weekend in January which he promised me before May leave he wouldn't do. He first told me it was one or two weekends, but then let slip the other day that it's every weekend.

So this lack of sleep I'm getting at the moment is when he ISNT working. If he was working tomorrow, I'd be way more sympathetic about his need to go to bed earlier. But he isn't. Plus I have to entertain a wild 5 year old on my own whilst looking after a 4 month old. Weather is looking dry ish but really cold. What on earth am I going to do? On such little sleep, and no patience.

Flip. Ds is so gorgeous though. Just looking at him asleep in my arms now. So blessed.

Is anyone else in constant pain with their tailbone? Mine has been getting worse since giving birth. Sitting hurts, I can manage on my sofa if I position myself right but I can barely sit on the floor or in a car or on the bus. Rolling over in bed is hard too as is picking anything up off the floor.

NHS website doesn't give me hope, their best advice is to not sit down too much and take painkillers though they also say that the most common cause is childbirth and/or pregnancy. Dead helpful that!

Yeah, on one of the weekend during the really bad weeks where I was up midnight-7 Dh asked to still sleep in the second bedroom because "he was tired". I agreed because I was so pissed off that I didn't want to be near him.

We've had multiple clear spit ups new that are all blood free, so I'm convinced that it was me and not her :)

I also might have snuck in a cheeky 10 mins on the left boob after the bottle...

Just finished feed #2 and she didn't sleep at all for the 3 hours between them, she's now whinging so going to have to lie her on my chest till she falls asleep, I'm just want to sleep now

Actino what a day, glad you're a bit reassured now

NinamarieP I had loads of tailbone pain not long after birth, the way I was sat to feed caused most of it. I got a feeding pillow so I could be more upright/ forward feather Han leaning back and crunching up around DS2 with all the pressure on my coxic. You could ask your Dr or HV to refer you to physio, they're very good round here at seeing people ante and post natally quite quickly.

Hashtag you have my sympathy! And if you think of ways to entertain -not using an ipad please let me know as I have DS1 as well tomorrow.

We are on feed three now, he's going for slightly less time between, probably because he's uncomfortable with his teeth. He has only slept at night for more than two hours once in his whole four months, I am mostly getting 1.5 hour blocks of sleep. Just doing the dreaded winding/keeping him upright now. I'm very pleased to have found this thread to get me through it, I feel sick with tiredness at this point.

Hi guys

First time on this thread and still relatively new to Mumsnet!

Strangely glad to be able to post and chat in the club no one wants to be in.

I have a 6 week old DS and sleeping and BFing have been challenging

Sleeps only in arms doesn't like the next to me crib or Moses basket longest he's stayed in either is about an hour which has decreased week by week.

I'm getting about 2hrs sleep a night when DH holds him and then if lucky 45min/1hr in the afternoon if my mum visiting or father in law free to pop up as DS will only nap in Moses basket for 15min max in the daytime before crying.!

I'm exhausted and have been hallucinating a couple of times past week.

I'm envious of Those in bed getting 2hrs a time several times through 6-8hr slots

How do you get your baby to stay in crib and sleep even for those short lengths?

I've tried raising mattress I've tired hot water bottle to warm it up beforehand. He doesn't care for a dummy unless it's just I haven't found one he likes yet he would much rather be comforted by breast.

Actino that must have been really scary - glad you've has reassurance now.

Nina can you self refer for physio on the NHS? Sounds painful and very uncomfortable. Feeding does our backs o good!

Hashtag that's incredibly annoying re your DH. I just don't think they really get the full horror of sleepless nights and what we go through. I bit my DH's head off earlier as I was settling for a nap and finally falling asleep when he noisily opened the door and asked if I knew where the shopping receipt was. Seriously?!

Just reading about this 20 kids and counting programme that aired tonight I think. I can't even begin to get why you'd go through all this TWENTY times...

Once again we're awake, DS very congested and unsettled so have been rocking him and jiggling him loads, I'm so tired and achy!

Welcome User although sorry you've had to join us! It's the club nobody wants to be part of. But there's lots of support here and hopefully you won't feel so alone with this - many of us going through the same thing.

I'm fairly fortunate in that DS will settle in his next 2 me, at least for most of the night although very unsettled for the second half. DD on the other hand didn't, and it was very very difficult. What worked for us was transitioning using the pram cot bed. She refused her moses basket but seemed to like the narrower confines of the pram bed. She started to do short stretches in that, and we gradually worked our way up from there. We gave up on the basket but bought a sleepyhead which made a difference - so expensive but so worth it. We use it with DS, have done from day 1, and it's really helping.

I can only say give it time...Co sleeping us an option for when your DS is bigger, it saved us with DD.

Also - have you tried swaddling? I didn't find swaddling with a normal blanket was very effective so we use a swaddle blanket (can't recall what it's called but there's plrty of options). DS usually find a his way out of it by the end of the night bit it's good for those first few hours.

Thanks for the welcome and advice@WhoAteAllthePercyPigs

Bizarrely at the hospital when DS was born they swaddled him and got us to do the same when sleeping in the clear crib but then told us when at home putting him to sleep not to swaddle which I found weird.

Are sleepyheads still ok to use?! I was so close to getting one as seems he really does require a closeness or reassurance similar to being held .

Tried him in carry cot from pram doesn't last long either only thing he has slept in for longer than 15mins is his travel seat when in car and then pushing around couple of shops.