The great non-sleepers - the sequel

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New thread!

Welcome @user1489931797 😊

Standard night here, up every couple of hours. Luckily DH is still off work so was able to take DS downstairs while I got a couple of hours sleep.

Oh no @ninamariep! Did you need assistance for the clean up operation?!?

@user1489931797 Great! I know it looks complicated but it's really not, check YouTube for instruction videos. Once you crack it you'll be able to tie it within seconds and without any help. I'm the worlds clumsiest person and I can do it. A cross on your back, a cross on your front, the baby sits on the front cross, then spread the fabric from knee to knee. And don't write it off if the baby starts crying, mine screamed his head off the first couple of times but I persisted and now he calms down as soon as he sees me putting it on. They do sleep really well in it. If you need any help let me know!

Thanks so much @ven83 really appreciate the support and advice!!!

@user1489931797 I've swaddled both DD1 and DD2. Currently using the Grosnug on DD2 but she's almost grown out of it at 6 weeks. If you do fancy swaddling, I recommend the ready made wraps rather than big muslins, as they are harder to wiggle out of.

Awful night's sleep last night as DD2 has a cough which could be bronchiolitis. I gave up at 0430 and handed her over to OH. Luckily DD1 slept through for once!

I swear I posted a reply earlier but it seems to have disappeared.

The poo was contained thankfully. I love the Naty by Nature nappies, far less poosplosions and leaks than we had in pampers and Tesco.

I'm really suffering this week. My 18 month old wakes every night between 12-3 and comes in to my bed. This week she has been so squirmy, and last night was climbing all over me, sitting on me and would not rest unless I let her lie across me. I really need some quality sleep. Do I just need to leave her in her room to cry? It's so hard in the night as I don't want to wake the whole house!

Ven83 I did try out a caboo sling but in the end opted for a marsupi sling, my main reason for buying a sling was that we were going abroad for Christmas and thought it would be easier to carry ds this way. Maybe if I had practiced more I would have got on with the caboo stretchy sling but I’m really chuffed with the marsupi as it’s dead easy to put on and ds was sound asleep until we had to take him out for take off. I can’t feed in the sling but it’s easy to loosen it to feed. On Tuesday I put ds in the sling as I needed to get the flat sorted again and put things away after our return from Denmark. He slept in the sling for 2 hours, it was brilliant and I’ll definitely be doing this on a regularly basis.
The night wasn’t too bad. Fell asleep with ds on the sofa from midnight- 1 am then went to the bedroom and ds slept until 3 am. We were then up until 4.30 and we slept in the lounge until dp got up at 5.30 am. Ds and I then co slept/fed in our bed until I got up at 7.40 am to get ready to go for our doctor appointment at 9 am (6 week check up), by 8.25 am I had to wake ds to get him ready too. Appointment went well although ds did get upset and started crying halfway through and did a massive poo! My dr was very keen to talk about contraception which I hadn’t actually thought about yet (I know... you need to think about these things) so we got that sorted. I need to go back for a swap tomorrow sorry tmi but due to colour of discharge. My dr also supported the suggestion of getting ds checked for tongue tie so I will get on to it.
Got a bit annoyed with dp last night when I told him about health visitor suggesting checking for tongue tie and that I had talked to her about the constant feeding getting to me and talked about expressing or formula. His first response was “what’s the point in putting ds through it if you’re going to ditch the breastfeeding and going on to formula in three weeks time”. Arggg... he can be so irritating... I told him that sometimes it doesn’t feel like he’s supporting me but more like criticising me for even considering or mentioning the word formula as if it’s the devil. After an hour’s silence he came round and assured me he’s behind me but has been pushing for the breastfeeding because he was worried that if I gave up I’d regret it.
On a positive note I’ve signed up for baby massage. I popped into my local children’s centre on the way home from the doctors to get a programme and the receptionist asked if I’d be interested in baby massage as they have a few spaces available starting on Tuesday afternoon, 5 sessions for £20, can’t wait also hoping to get to know some other new mums. Ds is currently asleep on my lap, he’s got a bit of a cold so he’s very noisy bless him.

@NinaMarieP never heard of that brand of nappies, will have to check them out. Ds is 7 weeks old and my god he poo 💩 loads, and we’ve had quite a few accidents luckily the worse have been on the changing mat but it went everywhere...

Does anyone have suggestion for some healthy snacks? I’ve got to start ditching the sugar... I’ve been relying on cakes - cookies, stollen you name it (hey that I blame someone on here for just can’t remember who it was😂).

@Joinourclub sorry I have no advice but I'm sure someone will have some suggestions when they come on tonight.

@Joinourclub does your DD sleep in a cot still? If she's in a cot, you could try laing her down over and over until she gets the message she needs to stay there. I have read it a few times on MN. No crying involved. You just need to be a 'boring parent', apparently. Maybe start a new thread? FATEdestiny gives out some good advice, usually.

Stuck under DD. Yep.

@Sakura how abut pre-made hummus or grain salad? Or hummus with carrot/celery sticks?

Gone to bed. Hoping for a better night although knee deep in the 4 month regression. Aim low shoot high is my philosophy on the night shifts at the moment.

Had a chat with dh today about last nights shenanigans with him off loading ds at least one hour early. He didn't realise how much of a big deal. I cancelled my Pilates class tonight and have opted for an easy yoga at home instead.

Despite being tired and slightly ill (woe is me) I have had a productive day. Ever optimistic and excited about the arrival of our new bed next week, I have reorganised and cleaned the bedroom. I have moved the bed to a different wall and this means the Snüzpod is on my side of the bed now (dh doesn't sleep in the bed at the moment so it didn't matter that it was on his side).

I've done this for two reasons.

1. I fancied a change and I think this bed location makes better use of the bedroom floor space.
2. Way access to the Snüzpod in the day so I can start putting ds down in it for his naps (rather than in the Moses basket downstairs).

It just means that everything is opposite to what it has been since ds arrival. He's now sleeping on my right instead of left. My night basket of nappies, wipes, phone charger etc is now on my left instead of right. How confused will I be in the night when I try and plug my phone into ds??!

Who knows 🤷‍♀️

@user1489931797 I had a moby stretchy for dd. Worked great. This time I bought another (had sold my other one on) and I just couldn't get to grips with all that fabric this time. Funny because I loved it the first time! This time I'm using a buckle sling suitable from birth - connecta. Literal life saver for school runs in the morning. Much easier than pushchair. Good luck, and as @Ven83 says, have a look in YouTube. Don't give up if you find it tricky. Practice at home.

@Sakura03 good for you for joining up to a group. Glad you are excited by it too. I did baby massage with ds and it's one of the good grouos because you actually learn something my dd hated it, but my Ds is much more relaxed. In my class, the wouldn't let me massage him and take part if I had fed him within 45 mins beforehand. It might be different for you, but just a heads up in. See. They always let me stay and watch and take the handouts if Ds was either asleep or too grouchy to take part. Don't stress if they are t in the mood, just enjoy the time out of the house and meeting new people at the very least!

@Sakura03 It was me bleating in about Bens cookies and Stollen! Haha. Yes. Let's think healthy.
I like the nature valley protein bars. Not super super healthy but great to keep one or two in the nappy bag if I'm out. They keep well and protein so good to fill you up!

@Joinourclub it's a parents choice. It's whatever you need to do and whatever it takes to get you there (within reason). We tried all sorts for my now 5 year old. At 15 months we were broken. Both working full time and she was waking 2-4 tines a night. We tried everything but dh took the lead with CIO. He was brilliant. I was a wreck. It took about 2 weeks for consistent results. Wish we did it sooner.

Evening everyone. I have been trying to feed DS to sleep for 90 minutes... Hoping this is not indicative of the night ahead 🙈

My LO is down for the moment after he tried to chew/rip off my nipple through his feed. He's getting really bad on that side and I don't know why as he's fine on the other! It's still stinging and it's been over half an hour.

Evening all, not a good start here, I had wanted to go swimming or watch some more of the new black mirror but it took me an hour longer than normal to get both boys down so have gone to bed instead. Not helped by DH delaying bathtime by doing something totally unnecessary at that point but as both boys will only go down for me (DS1 having a clingy jealous phase, DS2 needs boob) it's only me who suffers.

@joinourclub I have similar issues with DS1 (3) since DS2 has arrived. I don't want him disturbing DS2 and he knows it so I can't play hardball. Very very difficult to know what to do.

@hashtagtired - liking the enthusiasm, how did you get on after school today? DS1 was a monster this morning but got better this afternoon with some more one on one time and less ipad

DP and I have started story time with DD2 and I want to get into a regular habit of a book at bedtime. I have really strong childhood memories of stories making me sleepy. DP has a calming voice and I love listening to him too. Hoping DD2 will enjoy it too although she's probably not that receptive at 6 weeks!

that's lovely zampa about a bedtime story. what does everyone else do for a bedtime routine and when did you start?

we currently do nappy and into pjs and sleeping bag in bedroom then lights low and little play with a teddy that plays lullabies before feeding to asleep/very nearly asleep.
would love to introduce story and eventually get to point where ds isn't being fed to sleep and is able to self settle but to be honest it's just easier to feed to sleep now (nearly 14 weeks). I'm just not sure when i should be moving away from this.

anyway as we speak trying to feed ds to sleep. hope he doesn't take too long. I'm tired.
we have had a bad few nights. think he is hitting the 4 month regression and maybe teething too.

We need to set a routine now that DS is fast approaching 6months. He currently goes bed when I do usually between 8.30 and 10. He gets put in his sleeping bag and has a musical owl that plays while I feed him.
On bath nights (every other day) we read a story after I have fed him.

DS is wide awake at the moment so I've left him to roll around in his cot. I'm secretly hoping he will magically fall asleep but I can't see it happening

Thanks @AMagdalena and @HashtagTired for suggestions will definitely put items on my next Tesco delivery at the weekend.
Before ds was born I bought a sleeping bag for him which I think will fit him now so thought he could sleep in it tonight however not sure how it’ll work as I currently feed ds to sleep and I reckon he’ll wake if I then try and put him in it
Time to get ready for bed soon.

Still no sign of sleep here. Hope everyone else is having better luck

Put my head down at 23.37 and got woken up by ds crying at 00.15... back on the lounge. I suspect ds had done a poo as there's a bit of a smell lingering so will need to check and if so I'll soon have a screaming baby in my hands