The great non-sleepers, newborn and beyond.

[NinaMarieP]

Thread number four (I think).

Welcome to all past posters and any new ones who are also up at all hours!

I am sure I must have blown my nose at least 200 times in the night.
DD did a 4 stint in the early hours. Shame it was in my bed! And shame I couldn't sleep cause of this stupid cold.

I got a 4 hour block last night! I haven’t had that in ages. He had less naps yesterday as well.

I think I need to stop looking for patterns as they don’t seem to be consistent

Thank you @WhoAteAllthePercyPigs we have an appointment in a few hours. @Sakura03 I really hope your little one doesn't have reflux, I wouldn't wish it on anyone!

Another tough night by sounds of it! Hopefully we will all get a nap today... Or at least cookies or cake if not! My DS has gone back to only wanting to sleep laying on me and for blocks of about an hour usually less

He is exactly four months today 🙈 so either this is sleep regression or its about to get a whole lot worse 😱 send cake my way 😂

We ended up cosleeping @AMagdalena but I try to keep it as a last resort.

He had woken up crying at 9.20 after going down at 8ish (after a 2 hour battle) and again at 10. And about hourly until his 3am feed. He then slept restlessly until 6.30 and has fed on and off since then.

He was so snotty at 3 he could barely latch at first.

We have infant gaviscon! Wish us luck!

Hope it works @theotherendofthesockportal!

@Nina I would like to co-sleep a bit less, to be honest. I am keen to do a bit of pick up put down with DD, but we really need to be sure her reflux and possible allergies are under control.
Just been spewed on. Lovely.

@AMagdalena you do what you have to to get through! If he was refluxy or was a really crap sleeper I would probably do more cosleeping. As it is I'm usually lucky I can get away with only doing it for an hour or so before we get up for the day (and that's out of a selfish desire for me to have a bit more sleep!) and when he's unwell.

Out of interest, why do you guys want to keep co-sleeping to a minimum?
I'm genuinely interested, I've found it to be a lifesaver, but I'm wondering what other people think.

@yolkybokey For me, i just don't want ds to get used to it. Wouldn't it be lovely if he went to bed in his own bed every night. Yes there are nights co sleeping is inevitable and because dh is currently sleeping elsewhere it's not a massive space issue for me. But I don't want to rely on that as a soother. Trying to form routines.

So I haven't managed to get ds to sleep in his Moses all day today. We've had a day at home and he's been clingy.

Dd comes home from school and I out ds in his swing chair so I can make a start on tea. He's grumpy, of course, he has been all day.

Dd asks me if she can have a sweetie for being nice to her ds. I say no, she should be nice all the time not just for sweeties. But I go on to mutter under my breath 'if you get him to sleep you can have a sweetie', not really meaning it because there's no way that'll happen. I shit you not, within 10 minutes she's tapping my bum for attention whilst I'm stood at the cooker, and I turn around and he's asleep. She's collecting her reward.

Flip. How does she do that??!

Same here. Plus I don't sleep that well with him beside me as I'm never deeply asleep and the sidelying position is agony on my hips after a while.

And I do think that in his own cot/basket/space is safer ultimately. Cosleeping done safely is pretty safe, but there is always a small chance it could go wrong. There are more dangers than in his own space.

I'll take the tiny risks of cosleeping when I feel I just have to have that bit of sleep it allows but if he's happy in his own bed then we're better off apart. It's not like he's far away!

@AMagdalena can I ask what you are doing to deal with relflux? We have just started the gaviscon today. It's home into 2 feeds so far, so too early to tell if it will help.

Nice to see a few others going through the 4 month sleep regression. I've never known anything like it. I tell you, I don't know how any one has more than one child after living through this. During the night watch I was reading Daily Mail Online articles about women being sectioned for sleep dep to cheer myself up. It could be worse.

Omg @HashtagTired. What magic did your daughter work on her sister? The things they'll do for a sweetie haha. Speaking of sweeties, I can't stop eating today.

Someone mentioned those cookies up there. I can't stop thinking about them. We only have Rich Tea Fingers in. The world's saddest biscuit.

Sorry Hashtag. I mean *her brother

Yes Hashtag please share how she got him to sleep!

Haha @ceesadoo - the world's saddest biscuit 😂

Once again DS will only nap in the sling. The boy is going to make me a hunchback by Christmas 😭

I have no idea what she did. She just has this patience I don't seem to have. He loves her though. She used to sing to him everyday when I was pregnant with him and used to blow raspberries on my tummy. I think he's just used to her being around and he tolerates so much from her. She cuddles him on the sofa everyday before school (I actually have to factor her cuddle time into my morning routine otherwise she will kick off), and she rushes through the door after school, washes her hands and insists in another cuddle with him in the sofa.

So all in all, I just think he likes he company and feels relaxed to go to sleep. With me, I'm often trying to do other things so he's less relaxed maybe.

One day I left him on the blanket in the floor wide awake, she sat next to him and read him stories. He was asleep minutes later. Just lying there in the middle of the floor.

Who knows. Maybe she's just gifted. But a sweetie is a small price to pay if she can get him to nap. Plus, she's more inclined to keep quiet because I threaten to take the sweetie back off her --but no idea how I would do that after she's eaten it...

Wondering if I can keep her off school tomorrow so she can get him to nap....--

@yolkey DD is super clingy. 90% of naps are on me, so it'd be nice to have my body back for a few hours at night just to stretch my back if for no other reason. Co-sleeping has been a life save, though.

theotherend My DD is on ranitidine, but the dose needs upping. Plus, I am never sure if it's helping that much. We've also been referred to see a paediatrician as her reflux seemed to be getting worse a couple of weeks ago.

ARE YOU READY?! for a night filled with fun and little sleep

I'm not

NOT READY. Going in knackered already.

Rant alert. Have been trying to settle DS for almost two hours. Nothing working. Screaming his head off. DH has gone to play sport. DS was screaming when he left house. Now messages are not delivering. No idea what to do and I'm exhausted!!!

Not ready here but I’m trying some optimistic thinking. If I think it, it will happen.

That’s how it works right!

@Jellybean Poor you and your DS It's horrible when they scream their little heads off. White noise not working? not that it ever works on DD

Nope, white noise not working :( thanks though @AMagdalena. Neighbours must think I'm a crap mum with all the screaming he does :( he is laying on my chest now, think he may finally be running out of steam. Probably just in time for DH to arrive home and think everything's gone well 🙈