The great non-sleepers, newborn and beyond.

[NinaMarieP]

Thread number four (I think).

Welcome to all past posters and any new ones who are also up at all hours!

@Jellybean2017 I always to the "magical" 20 minute hold too!

The magical 20 min hold didn't work here. Now DD is playing with rge new bed guard...

Really pleased things are looking better with the DHs. You're so right pigeon, this shit IS hard. Sounds like you've been through a lot together. Having s non sleeping baby is hard enough but combined with everything else it's shitty hard work...

I dunno. Love my DH, always thought we had a strong relationship which has survived our DD and her non sleeping ways...but I feel very distant from him right now. We have no time for each other. Not even making time to cuddle at night - I'm so tired I go to bed very early and even if bedtimes do coincide, by the time he has settled DD and I've sorted DS, we are just too knackered to do anything but sleep in our separate beds! And during the day it's just a blur of chores, talk about the kids and recriminations and petty arguments over both.

I realise this is very common, I just worry it's setting a direction it will be very hard to break out of. Just gotta keep the lines open I guess.

On the 20 minute wait here too! DS snoring away in my ear so I think I can put him in his cot soon. Fingers crossed and a PMA for tonight for us all!

First time I've held DD since stupid o'clock this morning. Doing the magic 20min hold, the hopefully she will sleep for a good few hours.

I’ve just hopefully completed the 20minute hold here, hopefully he will stay asleep more than 30mins..

It’s hard to find the time with DH’s to stay connected. Just keep talking I guess is the only thing we can do.
I never know how much sleep I’m going to get so I prioritise that over everything. DH is on night shift this week to which doesn’t help.

Sigh. DD is taking forever to settle, as always, even though she is lying on me. She'll be pretty much asleep, nice and calm, eyes closing, and then suddenly start grunting twisting all over the place

Pressed post too soon.

It's hard to tell whether it's some kind of pain/discomfort or she's just being a little sod, but it's frustrating. I feel like I wouldn't even mind if she woke up more frequently, if it didn't take 90 minutes plus to get her to sleep. And then when she does sleep I'm too tired to try putting her down in her crib because I know the whole thing will just start all over again, so she ends up sleeping on me.

She's only a month old and I know it's too soon to expect much but it's really grinding me down - the whole of my evening and night feels like it's spent battling like this.

And she's still awake. She has been awake for hours. For the love of god just go to sleep.

Accurelintentions Sorry she’s battling sleep for you that must be hard! Is she still awake now.

DS is having another night of not letting me put him in his cot. He literally screws his face up as I lower him in. I’ve had an hour so far

Pleased that the dh situation is improved. I've just been catching up.

@WhoAteAllthePercyPigs I feel the same here. Separate beds and separate lives at the moment. We are like ships in the night and we talk more on WhatsApp than IRL I feel!
On a good day, which to be fair is most days, we make a good team. But when I feeling tired and negative, it looks more like I never see him anymore. One of us tends to be spending time with dd whilst the other with ds. Dh is really good at ensuring I'm not always with ds at the weekends, and today suggested I take dd swimming which is what she and I always used to do every Sunday morning together before ds arrived. It was nice to go back to some old routines.
I keep suggesting that dh can come back into the bedroom to sleep, but when we think about the practicalities of it, we both realise that just doesn't make sense right now. There's no point in us both being woken up at night.

Feed #1 here.

Sort of 1b really. Put him down but he was so fidgety he woke up. He burped so I think that was what caused it. He's now asleep again but waiting before I transfer.

I need to go and move that flipping elf. I've just realised I forgot to do it earlier 🙄

@Meepmoop Yep, still awake...and she's been awake so many hours that she'd got hungry again so I've just had to give her another bottle, although not a full one. And (although I'm probably jinxing myself now) I think she might sleep soon. I don't understand how a baby so little can stay awake so long!

@AccrualIntentions that sounds very similar to my ds who is 4 weeks old... so frustrating... though I made a huge mistake by calling my mum for a chat just after 9 pm while feeding ds (we live far away from each other so enjoy long chats on the phone), he was very sleepy but by the time we’d finished talking he needed a nappy change, then another feed and we didn’t get to bed until 00.30 and he woke up again just after 1 am... will try and get him back in his cot now.

@Sakura03 I think she's now been awake since 9:30pm. I feel like we're going backwards, she only wakes twice a night now but that's because she's been awake for hours and hours before going to sleep in the first place! I'm struggling more with this than I was with more frequent wakings but settling a lot quicker situation, which is what she was like a couple of weeks ago.

Feed #2
Didn't last long. Slept an hour

@AccrualIntentions ahh not quite the same then but I understand your frustration, I hope you manage to get some sleep soon...
Ds slept from 02.12-03.15am and was desperate for a feed... what is that about??? He’s fed loads during the evening and just before his last feed. Taking him to be weighed today!
I think we might stay in the lounge now as I don’t want to keep waking dp up, he’s getting up at 5.30 am for work... could so do with a spare room!!!
Hoping I’ll get a chance to start using my pump in the morning.

How do you guys avoid your lo’s getting fully wake and alert when you have them up for a feed during the night? My ds always starts off with a feed when he’s up, then a clean nappy, quite often he’s pooed and he hates having his nappy changed so then he’s definitely awake... and then finish off feeding praying he’ll settle and stop messing about with 30 minutes to an hour long sleeps....
Just eaten a cookie to make it more bearable (had Tesco delivery today and bought loads of snacks/cakes and a huge amount of nappies).

@Sakura03 I would have, before tonight, said I was blessed with a baby that seems to know the difference between day and night. Yes, he wakes frequently (feeds every 2-2.5 hours) for about 10-20 mins but is asleep again at the end of it. Tonight he's been a bit more active though.

I do a 3am nappy change (Or there abouts). I change before he feeds but I don't seem to have the issue with poo. He poos once a week whereas I know some of you guys get the poos mid feed.
So the feeds at night here are productive 20 minute bursts then sleep straight after.

The key for me is nappy change before the feed.

4 month sleep regression is hitting us hard right now, currently up with DS and he wants to party.

He's fighting sleep at every turn at the moment, it's so exhausting

Up again.
He's in with me now. My back can't handle another sitting up feed.

Restless again since 2am. Know I can't complain as he is sleeping well until then...but I really wish he would just settle and give me another few hours! Ok even an hour would do! He's quite snuffly so I've propped his sleepy head up, we have saline solution but I can't find it...

It's bloody freezing in here too!

Sakura no solution 're the waking I'm afraid. I change DS mid feed as he usually poops during it. Just did a change after one boob, he was nice and drowsy and now he's awake again...

She finally slept from about 2:15. I think I slept from about 3...till all the fuss started again at 5:15. DH gets up at 6, I'm waiting to hand her over for a few minutes so I can have a wee!

Hi all. I'm on feed #3 as i stupidly tried to get ds to sleep on his back... I guess if the system aint broke....

@Sakura03 i have the same issue as you re: nappy changes. I typically feed 15min one side, nappy change, 15min the other. Frustrating as DS ends up wide awake so it can take an hour.

I'm looking at the weather. Had planned some xmas shopping but am now wondering if its too cold and i should wait til later in the week. What are you lot doing?? Worried for ds obviously!! Also saying chance of light snow - dont want to get stuck

Errr someone has abducted my baby and swapped her with another one. She is still asleep! Haven't been woke up since she went to bed at 11pm - what is this witchcraft? Now I'm worried there is something wrong!

One poo a week!?!?! We average three a day! 😂💩

Night feeds take around 40 minutes if he falls straight asleep or nearer an hour if he needs help getting back to sleep.

This morning he peed through his sleeping bag an onto the sheets, only four hours after his last change. However he had gone 9 hours between changes earlier in the night. Maybe it was the big poo this morning that stopped his nappy absorbing the wee? 🤷‍♀️

He's still snotty after over a week so I've been awake to settle him half a dozen times between his feeds. This cold needs to do one!