Still awake with a (not so) newborn - the further adventures of EBLL...

[Jellybean2017]

Hope everyone finds the new thread 😂 and new chatterboxes are welcome to join us and battle through the night feeds together (with or without the assistance of EBLL [Ewan's back left leg!) 🐏

@Sakura03 my DS screamed at every nappy change til about 13 weeks, now it's not every time anymore!

We put a mobile above changing mat which he loves.

My ds is feeding like mad today. 10min on 10min off then wants back on. Sigh.

@Jellybean - Good to gear there is hope he might grow to like it, good idea about the mobile.

This morning we’ve had quite a bit of milk coming up, he’s so hard to burb when he falls asleep feeding... he’s also more sleepy which initially made me freak as he’s usually just feeding. Since last week he’s been constantly feeding so maybe things are changing a little (haven’t got a clue I just go with the flow). Does it sound normal?

Dp is unfortunately back at work, it’s been so nice sharing the experience with him plus there are still things I can’t do due to recovering from c-sec but I’m sure we’ll be fine. At the moment we’ve planted in front of the tv, ds is making funny noises in his sleep so cute!

I had a total of 6.5 hours sleep last night with 3 breaks in between but I don’t think that’s bad.
Hope everyone is having a good day😊

@jellybaby that’s what I had at the weekend!

Hardly slept again last night :( baby up every hour, starting to wonder if I am waking him up moving in bed as he is right next to me but he won’t sleep in cot :(

Have spent lots of ££ online to cheer myself up.

My Fitbit tells me I had 3 hours and 10 minutes of broken sleep last night. No wonder why I feel like shite!

Looks like alot of us had crap nights or are having rough days.

Ds has been so good lately. Today he just wont get off my boob. Meant to be at a baby group in an hour. Hes slept for 25min since 9am

@sockportal I have never used my fitbit to measure my sleep, it would be way too depressing

to those who had bad nights. Actually not too bad a day here. Spent the morning at a soft play and coffee play date, we had the soft play area to ourselves so the older kids played together whilst we mummies sat with our little ones and drank strong lattes

Now lying down with DS purring away on me, resting in preparation for another playdate this afternoon. Knowing DD will be at nursery tomorrow helps as I can properly rest.

Been planning to get the wonder weeks app (or as I've heard it referred to 'wonder why the fck my baby isn't sleeping'!). But as DS was a month early I'm not sure how it would work?

@Whoateallthepercypigs the wonder weeks app works based on due date. My DS was born at 37 weeks and it's been pretty spot on for us.

I've got DS in the baby carrier for his nap. I am worried he will never learn to nap anywhere else... Is this likely?! I figure it is best to get him into a regular nap routine initially, and then maybe work on putting him down asleep for one nap per day, maybe after the initial sleep cycle to make sure he doesn't get overtired... Tried getting him to sleep in the pram earlier but no luck. He screamed until DH put him in the carrier then went straight to sleep! Got visions of us having to do this until he is 5 years old 🙈

Wonder why the F my baby is not sleeping is a great alternative name 😂

DS has been feeding on me for over an hour and a half non stop luckily we're just chilling on be sofa and have nowhere to be but still... he must be hungry! He's half asleep half chomping away, it's totally adorable but also i need to pee sooo baaaddd

@jellybean it won't be forever I promise! DD only did sling/pram naps till she was 10 months, now she'll do nice long naps in her bed. I just went with the flow eventually and enjoyed the closeness. It forced me to rest too. Most important I think is that they're getting quality sleep, not where they do it at this stage. But I know not everyone will agree!

Ooft, two playdates later with rowdy toddlers and stick a fork in me I am DONE. But DD has had a good day so that's what counts. Starting to dread the night ahead...

@Gimbleinthewabe I may have managed to feed and go to the toilet at the same time today! It was either that or sit in a puddle! 😊

We have had a few crap nights. All going well from 22:00 feed to around 02:00/02:30 (woot woot) but then he decides that 04:00 is a good time and then perhaps 05:00 or 05:30 and then maybe 06:30. Grrr. Yesterday I was up from 04:00 and today we had 2.5 hours of cluster feeding in the morning.

I was so happy to be getting a longer stretch in the first part of the night but so disappointed by the second half. Guessing that maybe he has a growth spurt happening (need to dig out next size up vests as current ones getting too short) which would explain it. Woke him up just now for a feed to try and get back into some kind of routine for tonight. DH is taking the 22:00 feed whilst I sleep in the spare room and then we will do the early morning one together and he will then go into the spare room and I will take over with DS. Only way for either of us to get some decent sleep.

Ds has been on/off my boob all day. So much so hes not slept. 10min breaks in between feeds if i am lucky. Aargh i sense a long night!! Thought we were over this stage.

Went to a baby group though so atleast i broke out of the house for bit (albeit with ny barnacle baby)

Pj day tomorrow i think!!

@Jellybean As soon as your DS's reflux improves, I am sure you will notice a difference to his sleeping patterns and preferences!
I also wonder if DD will ever sleep in her cot for longer than 30 mins...Or nap NOT on me.
I am sure our LO's will improve sleep-wise once their reflux improves. I think it is a big factor here.

So I failed at being dairy-free already and had a Yorkshire pud yesterday. Been good today, tho.
DD seems a bit better today. No projectile vomiting, her poos are not explosive. Must be that Yorkshire pudding I had

Can anyone offer me advice on starting a routine? I want to start bathing DD every night around 6pm and start to wind her down for the evening. Would I then take her upstairs to bed and sit on the dark room with her? Or can I somehow keep her downstairs?

I'm keen to start the routine, but don't like the idea of sitting alone in the dark. Am I over thinking this? She is 6 weeks old.

I guess it would depend on if you could a) later move her upstairs without waking her or b) be sure she would wake for at a feed around the time you want to go up to bed.

We're all on one level so my LO goes in his snuzpod in th living room after his last feed (around 7-8pm usually) and then we slide him through to the bedroom when we go to bed. We have the lights low and the TV not too loud with his white noise on beside him and he doesn't stir.

Ideally until 6 months if they are asleep it should be in the same room as you.

Hope you're right @Whoateallthepercypigs and @AMagdalena! Thanks for the vote of confidence 😊

No idea in a routine @rheotherendofthesockportal. We don't really have one as he hates the bath and being undressed. Routine is just clean nappy, sleep suit, gro bag, dim lights, boob, hope for the best!

I have an open plan lounge/diner, so I have moved DD 2ft away from me so she is the diner area, rather than right next to me. I'm able to turn the lights off there so she is in the dark and also away from the tv. Even though it's 2ft, it feels miles away! We will take her upstairs around 11pm, and feed her before putting her in the crib next to the bed.

I have included a photo of how far away she is from me now. It's not too far?

We are almost home now from our weekend away. Exhausted and looking forward to:
A) sleeping in my own bed tonight (I changed the sheets before we left so they are nice and fresh - best feeling ever!)
B) getting the house in order and getting all the washing done
C) getting dd (5) back into a routine and trotting her off to school tomorrow (yes we are naughty parents taking her out of school on Friday and today)
D) learning how to use my early Christmas present my dh got me today. Iwatch.
E) getting the house ready for Christmas decorations
F) putting up the Christmas decorations
H) spending some time alone with dh at home after tomorrow.

But first I have to go and pick my car up from the garage after its service 😬😬😬

Well that was odd. I thought I posted that last post hours ago

Home, pretty much sorted and now in bed. Car cost wasn't too bad at £200 but the list of things needs doing to it is a little more

Wishing everyone a good night tonight.

As long as you can see her and hear her I'd say that was a good place to have her.

@theotherendofthesockportal looks fine to me. Just keep checking. In the day I put ds down in Moses basket in the lounge and go and sort out the kitchen or do the laundry, but I'm always popping in to check he's ok. Sometimes if I don't have to get him up straight away for the school run, I leave him asleep in the Snüzpod (or on my bed if we were cosleeping the last leg of the night, but move all pillows a duvet away) and put the baby monitor camera on him whilst I go downstairs and sort out dd. I keep an eye on him with the monitor.
When I'm busy or distracted I find he settles. If he stirs and I'm in the middle of something I tend to finish what I'm doing (providing he's not yelling and just chatting or stirring) and by the time I go to get him a few minutes later he's gone back to sleep! If I were next to him I probably would have picked him up.

As for routine, it's whatever suits you as a family. All routine is is the same pattern every night so that you dc knows what to expect and what to do. For us it's more about him staying downstairs with dh until midnight when he comes upstairs then sleeps (haha, yeah right) in the Snüzpod.
You don't have to bath them, sit in dark rooms or do a country jig unless you want to. It does help to keep noises and lights low just to show the transition between day and night.

It's when they are older which is when the dark room stuff helps. No eye contact etc (if you follow that strategy).

Good luck!

Chocolate consumption increasing ! Won’t ever fit back in my jeans. DS has been cluster feeding today if that’s a thing at 12/13 wks, neeeeed sleep