New SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK thread - are we still here?

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Another thread. My didn't we get full quickly! night sleeping good. Naps...not even 5 mins so far today...

WE have had an awful day. He was up during the night for aboutan hour, and as a result I think we are both knackered.

So, all day I have had to settle him in his bouncy chair and keep bouncing to keep him asleep. I am sooooo exhausted, and to make it worse it feels like a huge step backwards.

i agree ginger - when i had tried pu/pd with ds at 4.5mths i really believe he just didwasn't ready. when i did cc at 7mths he was ready which was why it was not hard/lengthy/heartbreaking etc. i just think,as with your dd, that they needed steering/teaching to 'get it' iyswim . hope your nite is good, cruise

ratfly to hear of your night/day. go to bed early and catch up if you can

Ratfly, sorry you're feeling so miserable. Your LO is still young and they are really unpredicatable at that age. I know my DD was grumpy for about a month because she wouldn't sleep during the day much and yet needed to. I got so sick of people telling me that maybe she didn't need to sleep and I tried everything to get her to nap longer but to no avail. Eventually she grew into it iyswim. She could manage with less sleep.

Do you think you might be suffering any kind of depression? If so perhaps have a chat with your HV. I remember that time being the hardest time for me and I really feel I was verging on depression. The only thing that kept me sane was this thread and the support of mn.

Big hugs to you

yeah, i'm tired of people who don't have babies saying maybe he's just not tired, maybe he doesn't need sleep. yeah so why is he ultra cranky when he doesn't sleep? and the other: 'can't you just shut the door and get some sleep?'. hmmm, they've got no idea on so many levels.

the worst thing is that he is so tired he cant sleep.... and me too! I think it was made worse as I just couldnt switch off last night, so I finally fell asleep about midnight.

thanks for your support guys

i've been there ratfly. actually i'm still there most of the time ....

i hope for everyone that tonight is a better night.

oh my other favourtie comment that i got today from a non-baby person "it sounds like you need to keep him up all day so he'll sleep better at night".
oh yeah, it is sooo that simple

amber - they talk out of their ar**s don#'t they. make my blood boil!

Well done to everyone having good nights (am skim reading whilst cooking, apologies!) and thanks for the welcome

Tam - big hugs to you and your dp.

Screams - what meds is you lo on? My dd is on Ranitidine for reflux and recently started having reflux symptoms again. The dr increased her dosage and it's made a world of difference - may be worth seeing your GP?

Have had the sleep deprived day from hell as dd is teething. No Pantley magic for me at the moment

Can I join? I've been lurking for a bit but need to do some serious archive reading still. DD is 10 months and used to be a great sleeper, from 4-6 months. Then all went boobies up with teething, first cold and Christmas disruption and we've never really sorted it since.

But hey, she's lovely when she's awake and she went to sleep wrapped on my back today, which was delicious. Apart from the snot down my neck, of course.

Just checking in before I go to bed. Only one nap today (out in the buggy in the middle of the day) so don't know if that will impact on the night. DS was a pretty cranky at bedtime, but crashed out after a couple of mins on the boob. I've also had people (inc my mum!) say things like 'well if he sleeps less during the day he'll be more tired at night' er no, that's not how it works. Mind you, she keeps gently suggesting that I should be leaving him to cry by now as well.

Hi Mij - x-posted, welcome

i am having the most horrendous night. ds went to bed at 7pm - no probs- fell asslep bf as usual but was aware he was in his cot when put in there, as usual. he woke 45mins later and has been screaming on and off since then. i have been in, comforted, picked up, cuddled etc. he stops every time he is in my arms and then starts to play. dd is very upset as i got really, really frustrated and angry. she was crying, he was crying. i felt like screamin at him to shut the up. . dont know what to do. dont think there is anything wrong with him as he is fine and happy when i go in. cant leave him crying as he is now as dd needs her sleep for school. at the end of my tether and very upset

oh fuck - what do i do? still screaming!!!

Well, he had a massive poo, i fed him and put him in his cot awake at 10:30pm. i am sure he thought it was daytime as he was quite lively and wanted to play (or so it seemed). so frustrating and confusing when you get an evening like this (in fact this is the first time this has happened at this time). I hope he has settled down and is Ok. you never really know do you.....

Good morning!

cruisemum -hope you got it sorted last night. It is so frustrating when they are awake and they NEED to sleep. how old is you lo?would just crash out, but oh no!

Mae - isn't it easier said than done, getting them to nap. before I had a kid, I thought they

Last night I bit the bullet - he has been trying to escape his swaddle for a few days, so left 1 arm out last night. It was actually a calm night - he had trouble getting off, then woke at 3 for food, fell asleep no probs, woke for a fart at 5 and fell asleep ok. WOW!!
Probably wont last, but maybe we can flnally get rid of the darned swaddle soon ....

Good morning!
As I posted for the 1st time yesterday I was quietly optimistic that this would have a subliminal effect on ds2's sleep (hey, what can I say, I'm sleep deprived and delusional!) But no! Another night of no sleep! Went down in his cot at 7ish and slept until 10, but then awake (and wide awake. screaming, playing about etc etc) until 1am!! What is that about?! How can he suddenly be awake for 3 hours in the middle of the night? Then co slept until 4.45 when he deceided it was time to get up for the day and he is still wide awake now. I on the other hand am knackered! Hope everyone else had a better night....

hi hannah - told you you would fit in here! sorry about your bad night.
wll after 10:30pm ds did go to sleep until 5:10am when he cried some more. i left him just to see but he was not gonna go back to sleep so i went in did the kiss/pat night night thing but he raised the roof so i brought him into bed and fed him there. feel like ihave takena giant leap backwards afte he was doing so well. felt really angry with him this morning. wanted to leave him here and go out for hte day.. never would of course. dh doesnt understand how it gets sometimes as he is never in. feel pissed off and hoping that thigs improve again soon

morning all
welcome mij
cruise hope last night improved
ratfly for your night
our night was sleeptastic!!! sorry for those whose wasnt
dd went to bed later (9pm) as had 2 naps in the day, 1x 2 1/2 hrs and 1x 1 1/2 hrs (whats going on?!!!) i left the room to make sure ds was getting to bed, and she fell asleep all by herself !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
woke at 4am for a huge bf, then back to sleep til tarzan (dps alarm!) woke us up at 7am WOW

cruise x posted, glad things improved a bit, dont get disheartened, you'll be back to where you were before you know it.

hannah for your night, sorry, i missed you out before. theres just so many posts as cruise said, you'll fit in well. we've all had varying degrees of sleep deprivation hell

Maewest: glad things are improving
Cruise: hope your night got better
Amber: ignore all advice, esp from people without babies!

Things still a bit unsettled for us thanks to DS's teeth. He is reliably doing a longer stretch in the early evening which is great but then waking everry 2-3 hours after that. Still an improvement on a month or so ago.

I do think things will improve slowly for all of us, but there are always setbacks. Hopefully the blips won't last too long! I keep thinking that even people with great sleepers have nights where they don't get any sleep at all

tibsy - what a great night! lucky you

hi im back she's still not sleeping through and last night flatly refused to go down at all ti l 2 and to be honest we had to use some calpol to knock her out but she screamed uncontrollably everytime we lay her down so im still wondering if its teething but none have popped yet and she woke at seven this morning

so i have rang in sick today

hello to all those ive spoke to before and hello to all those i havent spoke too yet ?

Booby: hi there! Calpol will help any pain but won't make her more sleepy (unlike Medised) so if she sleeps afterwards it means she was teething rather than just fractious, if that makes sense :