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New SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK thread - are we still here?

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PavlovtheCatthatgottheCremeEgg · 07/04/2007 12:04

Another thread. My didn't we get full quickly! night sleeping good. Naps...not even 5 mins so far today...

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cruisemum1 · 23/04/2007 21:17

hi swizz - thanks for joining me on the bf past 6mths thread. keep going - we are doing a great job! makes me all teary when i think about it .
sweet dreams all

Tamdin · 23/04/2007 21:18

ginger don't feel guilty you've done an amazing job bf this long and you can mix the 2 if dd will let you
ratfly hi

Tamdin · 23/04/2007 21:18

hi cruise. in the bar if you need a bed time tipple

cruisemum1 · 23/04/2007 21:25

hi tam - Would love to join you all but I am too pissed to read right now! ;Anyway, you still up?! shouldn't you be catching some zzzz's!
ginger - i toy all the time wiht quitting bf but i cannot. i do give formula at 10am and 2:30pm but i just dont seem to be able to relinquish my role at morning and night feeds. just too precious and lovely....keep going if you want to. what are your reasons for stopping?

Tamdin · 23/04/2007 21:32

off to bed now cruise. fingers crossed. x

cruisemum1 · 23/04/2007 21:36

sweet dreams tam

cruisemum1 · 23/04/2007 21:36

btw - not really pissed !

redbeki · 23/04/2007 22:27

It is emotional,ginger.Don't feel bad though.I felt really bad 2 weeks ago,but now I feel fine,coz LO sleeps so much better.Breastfeeding is wonderful,but when they are in bed all night,on one side then the other,something has to give.I was getting so bored of doing that,and I knew that was the only way she would sleep if I stopped and put her on bottles at night.I don't feel guilty now,and I do feel like I have more energy.
You probably feel more emotional because of your sleep deprivation?
Giving your LO some formula isn't so bad is it?Don't be too hard on yourself.you may find she might sleep so much better,and that's better for you isn't it.You have to think of YOU too.

MaeWest · 24/04/2007 07:59

Morning all, hope your nights weren't too bad. Just to show babies are contrary little b*ggers, I can report that last night HE SLEPT! The full 12 hrs, didn't hear a peep etc Of course, I am now torturing myself as to what the secret was, how will I recreate the conditions of yesterday etc... He's done it once or twice since he was born, so know it is possible, just wish he do it a bit more often.

ratfly · 24/04/2007 08:51

My ds was a nightmare to put down, so ended up having his dreamfeed at 10 instead of 11. He slept til 3 - (5 hours - isn't that oficially going through the night?! ) but was a sod to put down again - it took 1 hour, a hysterical mum and a patient dad to get him to sleep again.
Then woke at 6.30 for a snack, fell asleep, up at 7,30

Would have been a perfect night (I will settle for 1 night feed) except for the nightmare settling in the evening and at 3am.
It did occur to me that during the night I do tend to feed to sleep....

ratfly · 24/04/2007 08:52

MaeWest - I bet you feel great this morning! Well done on whatever it is you did to get hime to sleep!!

MaeWest · 24/04/2007 09:33

I feel almost bright-eyed . Also, I just put him in his cot an hour ago, he had a little shout (in the time it took me to go to the loo) and then it all went quiet, and has been since. Don't want to check him in case I wake him up... I really agree with Pavlov about the baby being 'ready' for it. DS is nearly 9 months old, and I think I was so scared of him yelling that I didn't give him a chance to settle himself. Also he still fed to sleep last night at bedtime, but think tackling the daytime naps first is probably best (and crying sounds so LOUD in the middle of the night).

Tamdin · 24/04/2007 09:44

maewest that's brill. I think your ds stole my ds's sleep . he was a PITA alst night. standing up in his cot every couple of hours but not properly awake. due to being sick before bed last night and bringing up all his dinner i also think he was prob hungry. what ever it was i feel like i got very little sleep. anyway onwards and upwards. Going to see justin timberlake with the girls tonight (how sad am i )

gingerninja · 24/04/2007 09:52

Ratfly, My memory is a bit blured of that age (odd I know because it wasn't that long ago) but I think most babies feed to sleep at that age. My DD stopped feeding to sleep when I gave her a dummy but that creates other problems. I think Amber's LO is the same sort of age as yours. Not sure what she's doing but I wouldn't worry yourself too much about creating bad habits. Personally, not sure what others think, I don't think it makes a lot of difference. I've got friends that do the same things as me and their kids sleep. I got a friend that has been trying to do cc with her lo for about a month and it's just not working so it just makes me think that like us they're all different. Also I've lost count of the times that I've been hysterical over lack of sleep, had arguments with DH. It's a very stressful business this motherhood milarky.

Well, DD had a good night. In her own cot until 5.30!!! Cat woke her and us up. but she came in with us and slept until 6.45. She fed at 10.30 and then 5.30. I typically woke at 3 and wondered why she hadn't woken so peeped in. About 20 mins later I heard her shout but she settled herself then half an hour later I realised that she was chatting to herself. When she started crying DH went in (so she couldn't smell mummy milk) changed a pooey nappy and settled her back down and she was out until the cat..... So despite my being awake quite a lot twas a very very good night.

On a different note. We think she reacted to formula. Eczema flared up a lot this morning and she's itchy and uncomfortable so we called it a day for a couple of weeks, let it clear up then start again. So, shan't have to worry about that guilt again for a while!!! (thanks for your kind words about that btw)

Tamdin · 24/04/2007 09:54

bump for kathy. morning ginger. haven't read your post yet. will be back x

Tamdin · 24/04/2007 09:57

hi again ginger for better night. naughty cat.
DS never suited cow's milk formula. Had to opt for soya in the end (lesser of 2 evils for us. would have preferred to bf until 12m but had to stop at 8 due to blocked milk duct). Dairy as you know is not good for any skin conditions. I'm dairy intolerant too and i know it screws with my skin.

KathyMCMLXXII · 24/04/2007 09:59

Hi all.

I posted because my 5 month old ds only slept 5 hours in the last 24 and I was wondering if that meant there was something wrong....

I never thought I'd be on this thread - my dd slept through from 7 weeks but this one has been so, so different

lilysma · 24/04/2007 10:00

Well, thanks for the encouragement on gradual withdrawal, Tibsy, it seems we are making progress here! On Sunday night I managed to settle dd without feeding between 10 and 3am and last night it was between 10 and 5 am and I think she did a 4 hour stretch, which is unheard of in recent months . In bed with me, but still...

I'm probably getting less sleep as i have to wake up properly to settle her by patting tummy, holding hands and shshing. It hasn't involved much real crying so far - mainly whiny protests. The interesting thing tho is that she sleeps for longer when she's been fed to sleep, which is not how it is supposed to be, no?? I notice you are still feeding yours at night - how do you decide when to feed and when to do the gw thang?

Will see if I can keep doing this for a few more nights and then try to move to next stage. Sound like a good plan? How long did it take for you to move between stages? Did your lo start sleeping for longer between settling or is that not a problem you had? Sorry for all the questions as usual!

MaeWest · 24/04/2007 10:02

ginger - are you starting formula due to return to work or because you need to leave her during the day? I haven't left DS for any length of time during daylight hours, but now he is eating more solids (and drinking a little water from his sippy cup) he doesn't seem to want bf so much. I also find that he wants boob if I'm there, but if he's playing with his dad and I'm not around he's not looking for it. I would feel a lot happier now leaving him for 4 hrs or so. I also have a friend who went back to work when her DD was around 6 months and eating solids. She stressed herself out expressing milk, but in the end her DD was happy to eat solids and drink water during the day (turned her nose up at the bottle), and make up for it with mega bf morning and evening. Just a thought, ignore me if I've got wrong end of the stick...

Tamdin · 24/04/2007 10:11

kathy my ds is 15m tomorrow and has never slept through the night. we had a goo run for a month or so recently when he was only waking once but atm seems to be one good night one bad
i don't think anything is wrong with your ds but i can't remember that age too well (probably sleep deprived) so hopefully someone will be along soon with lo same age as yours to compare.
could it be the usual culprits growth spurt/teeth? x

tibsy · 24/04/2007 10:23

maewest - fandabeedozee!!!! and i quite agree with you about the scared to let them cry thing before giving them a chance to settle themselves. i used to dash up the stairs sometimes like a bloody olympic athlete

ratfly, thank god for patient dads that all i can say, i too hand my dd over when i feel like throwing myself or dd outta that window

tam you had a bad night and for poor lo. enjoy the gig. not really a fan of his music, altho some of it quite hot and he is pretty fit

kathy, welcome altho youre here iyswim

lilysma - thats fab news, sounds like your lo responding well!!! dont be put off if dd starts bucking against it in a few days, it can happen. i actually tried the night weaning last night after reading gingers post. dd was not a happy bunny bed at 7, woke at 12 for a feed and i held out. got a bottle prepared (must have been a night for formula last night ginger) well, it took me over an hour to get her back to sleep cos she wanted booby! but i perservered. she drank about 1oz of formula and i know she cant have been hungry cos she went to sleep then til morning. little scamp!! am going to try again tonight with bottle and see if that deters her from what i think might now be habit

ginger it is a highly emotive thing, bfing. i found it so hard in the beginning and told myself i would give it up around 6 months. i cant tho, cos i love it if you do decide to introduce the formula (when you find a suitable one) i'll be with you, as am going to introduce it at night to try and deter dd from using me as a dummy! what maewest said too, a lovely post maewest

tibsy · 24/04/2007 10:38

ginger, i pinched this from another thread! hih x

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cruisemum1 · 24/04/2007 13:24

ginger - that sounds great!!. lets hope it is the shape of things to come...

redbeki · 24/04/2007 14:21

Ginger,That was a result on the sleep front,but shame she reacted to formula.My ds had eczema as a baby,and we gave him goats formula,it's called 'nanny',and you get it from health food shops.He didn't react to that.When he was older,we gave him rice milk,and he loved that.It's like breast milk,sweat and kind of watery.
eczema is so irritating at night ,I do SWU..Hows the BLW going? Oops,that's another thread.

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