New SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK thread - are we still here?

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Another thread. My didn't we get full quickly! night sleeping good. Naps...not even 5 mins so far today...

Pav: have tried the oragel on DS but for some reason it sends him hyper (no idea why!). So Inthehouse, if you'd like to try some I'm happy to pass it on. Revolving Oragel in true MN style!

Last night not too bad but went pear-shaped after 3am - ended up with DS falling asleep at 6 and me getting up at 6:30 leaving DH and DS fast asleep

hey everyone

am still around just havent had the time to post.

hope i havent missed much and i hope evryone is well and all the lo's as well

i hate teething, that a good place for me to begin, ds was sleeping well until he started to cut the top teeth, one has already come dwn just the next one now, anyway he has to be rocked to sleep and wakes up maybe 3 times a night so dont really know what to do anyway have to run up to him trying to gethim to nap will check in later

bye 4 nw

tibs, its so hard to know. sometimes my ds goes 8 hours in the day without eating (like this morning, he kept refusing the breast!), but he can barely go 2-3 hours at night. and then occasionally he goes 5 hours at night (well, maybe twice!), and i think right i won't feed you so often at night, but then he won't settle and he seems to really need it. i think it just changes day to day feed to feed. it keeps you on your toes alright!

so how do i know if ds is teething. he's 15 weeks now, and i thought a bit early? but someone said today that the massive amounts of dribble comng out of his mouth that maybe he's teething. his clothes are wet, mine are wet, the sling is wet, the ground is wet where is drips down! he's grizzly, but then he always goes through grizzly phases. anyway, i feel like its just the next excuse. i used to blame everything on 'growth spurt', now i can just blame it on 'teething' i guess
i've got 3 mins till ds hits the 1/2 hour mark on his nap. i dream of the day he goes over ... will it be today??

amber, i was thinking that this a.m, god , if i'm not saying 'she's on a growth spurt' it's 'she's teething' or 'she's tired' any others i've forgotten... 'its just a phase' i get fed up of hearing MYSELF sometimes re. the teething, dd has been having same symptoms on and off since she was about the same age as your lo. still no blardy teeth tho!! apparently they can start moving their way thru the gums quite early on having said that, other babies get them thru really quickly. who blooming knows
thanks ginger, i know, its bloody awful this mothers guilt aint it? i told dp that we have to wait to try for another until dd is a) sleeping thru or b) is 1.........know which will be here sooner excellent news about naps tho
tam poor ds. hope he feels better soon
bridget, hope lo went off for a nap ok
cruise, how are things your end?

swizz dd went a bit like that with medised, anti histamine has a drowsy effect my aunt fanny

ok, someone is playing a trick on me ... ds has been asleep for 1 hour 20 mins.

yey, go amberjees' ds!!!!

yay, he went for 1 hour 40 mins in his cot. that has seriously never happened before.

yay amberjee
re teething my naturopath/homeopath told me that the jaw has to almost dislocate to let the teeth start pushing up and it's very painful.(helped me to be more sympathetic) i can't remember but i think she said the worse time is 5pm (?)on the chinese clock (?)probably got all that wrong. seeing her next week so i'll ask again for all our benefits. x

just skimmed posts (been too busy soaking up the rays all day ). last nite was great. sleep at 7:00pm till 6:15am, not a peep! . naps completely haywire tho and all over the place so i'm v confused right now. not complaining however but would like to sort it. any tips ginger

Amber, my DD has bee teathing since about 15 weeks, they move around under the gums so even if they're not cutting they still suffer.

Well done also for the naps, maybe there is something in the water at the moment.

Cruise, I'm now a smug mother of a baby who has had good naps for 3 days. What do you want to know? . You sound like a completely different person now. Do you feel like a new woman? How is DS's mood now he's sleeping?

Well, here's in anticipation of a bad night. We injected some calpol in through a syringe because I think her second tooth is almost through and she's been a bit fussy. These medicines seem to have a hype her up effect too. I think it's the E numbers of which there are loads if you read the box. Anyone know of any without E numbers?

Hello all, very long time no chat - we moved house and took ages to get our internet reconnected. Same old same old here - i.e. my now 5 month old (yesterday) dd waking up every two hours. Now totally co-sleeping after her 10/11 pm feed (she will sleep in her cot for a couple of hours before that). Am sort of resigned to it all, but equally wondering how long this will go on and if it won't stop on its own how to dredge up the energy to do something new like ncss . Any success stories out there to help keep my pecker up??

lilysma, hope the move went ok, its exhausting and stressful in itself isnt it?
i had some success with ncss but abandoned it when dd unwell xmas time. i love the idea behind it tho. my style of parenting. not for everyone,i know, as can take a long time to see results. i know tam has had good results with it and i'm sure she'll agree with me that the time was right with her ds, but he is older, 14 months Tam?.
i know other people have tried pu/pd and had success, and cruise is trying cc, so she can talk to you about that also.
i just went with the flow (or out of sheer bloody lazy arseitis!) until recently and had dd co sleeping. have recently returned to gradual retreat method and am encouraging dd to fall asleep without props (she is nearly 8 months tho)naps are getting longer, 2 X 1hr long today and she is actually allowing me an evening . she's still waking 1/2 times tho, but thats out of hunger, as i found out last night and short of iv drip, i cant do much about that atm!!!!
better go, but if you are interested in gradual retreat/withdrawal, can tell you what i know at another time.
sweet dreams everyone

Thanks for the welcomes ginger and tibsy.Are your lo's sleeping any better than say last month?
Do you think it improves with them eating solids,and being more active?

Changing the subject a little here.
I stopped breastfeeding last week,and I got my first period today,I think I'm in shock as it's been so long..Just thought I'd mention it,to try and get some sympathy,as my dp hasn't given me any all day!,.

hey everyone

ok seriously what is with the rocking to sleep i mean come on they have to be taking the mick right, i rocked for 30 mins he was completly asleep put him into cot and the wee eyes just popped open and he doesnt even make a decent effort at crying he starts fake crying its as though hes actually trying not to laugh at me lol i know that he knows how to put himself back to sleep and i know that he knows how to go asleep alone but he has just decided that he doesnt want it that way for now why??? arrrghhhhhhhh..........

hope i get some decent sleep tonight as lo also likes to wake up at 6 and i dont think that dh is going to take him tmrw morning, i think i love my sleep too much, or at least morning sleeps cuzz i could stay up all night.

apart from hsework what is there to do so early any ideas it just seems to early a time to even move and i want some ideas to fill the time

hope everyone has a good night tonight

take care

bridget, your post made me laugh - its so familiar!
anyway, my LOVELY LO decided last night to wake up every hour from about 10.45. hmmm, thanks for that. guess i can just blame it on the teeth

morning amber and ITH. from what i've been told most of the work of teething is done long before they ever appear. the jaw moves around to try and push the teeth further and further up into the gum. I'm sure ds was teething from 3 months (ish) but didn't get 1st tooth until 6 1/2 months.
Good night here sorry. woke once for 2 mins for bottle at 3 and straight back to sleep. up at 7am for day. feel sooooooo much better than yesterday

morning all

hope you are well rested for the weekend.

amber - I thought ds was teething from 3 mths as he was so grumpy but nearly 6 mths later he still hasn't got any! Well done on the naps. I don't bother about the day - I figure he will drop those eventually...and besides, it's dh that has to cope with it

My ds woke 3 times last night - still had a fever last night and was dosed up. I was surprised at how quickly he went down though.

Lily - cruise and I did a softer version of cc and it worked. My LO is waking at the mo as he has a fever and I wouldn't let him cry it out if he's not well! Prior to that he was sleeping 9 - 6am.

Well, better start work - enjoy the sun !!

mornin my sleep seeking sista's

we had an ok night. went to bed fine
woke at 11, i thought she had pooed but when i went to change her, found out it was a rather unfortunate side effect of the cauli cheese i had made, parp!
maseeeeeeve feed then and woke again at 3.30 and 5.30 for feeds. dare i say it, is it a growth spurt?!

redbeki, re. your q. is dd sleeping better cos of weaning and being more mobile..........uhhh,no and re. the period, yeuch. i had my first after i started weaning onto solids and have had another since they seem longer and heavier too. sorry if tmi still, a good excuse to eat lots of choccie

bridget, its blardy infuriating when they do that i'd think dd was out cold, then as soon as i put her down, she'd either cry or lay there laughing, 'singing' and wriggling, little minx

amber for your night

tam for yours!!!!

quick question for amijee and cruise as your lo's are generally sleeping thru and are approximately the same age as my dd.
how much are they eating/drinking thru the day, as its obviously enough to sustain them overnight. i know theyre all different, but it would be interesting to compare. thanks

Ah Redbeki, the return of the dreadful period. I've had two and am still bf'ing! I think DD's sleep is better than it was at Christmas which is when we started this thread I think, however it's still unpredictable last night was another shocker but I think on the whole much better. I don't think there is any correlation between weaning and sleeping well and I'm not convinced that day time sleep = nigh sleep given that the last few days she's slept well during the day and terribly at night.

ITH, I second Tams post about teething. In fact I was really only sure (in as much as you can be) once she'd got her first tooth because the two days or so before it cut she was mega mega unsettled. Once it cut she was more settled and it just seemed to make sense. She's a bit like it at the mo and I can see that the second one is just about cutting. But as with all things babys a lot of it is trial, error and bloody guess work! My DD attacks stuff bitting, sometimes my neck, and gets very grumpy. A bit of teething gel often takes the edge off.