new 'SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK' thread

[tibsy]

hi ladies, the other one ran out of space, so if no one else starts a new thread, here it is....

morning tibs. must be nice having dp at home to help for next 2 weeks.

well he's not in good books atm so we'll see

oh dear.make sure he makes himself useful.
ds just went beserk when i treid to put him down for his nap. never carries on like that. thinking maybe his sleep times are changing as he's getting older and i should wait until 11ish now in the morning before trying him (used to be 10)oh who the feck knows what's going on

Morning all,

ds has been poorly with a bad cold for past two days, so dh and i have had very little sleep in last 48 hours. Ds waking every 1-2 hours in night crying, poor thing. Couldn't settle so ended up bringing him into bed with us, so we were both kept awake by his breathing Feel so sorry for ds, very snotty, coughing and very cuddly at the moment, don't mind the cuddles though. Been to see GP who has prescribed some drops, so hopefully ds will get better sleep tonight.

Just knew my last good night was a one off

Tibsy & Tamdin that your lo's have been have been poorly and having teething troubles.

Pav - great news

Swizzler- re daytime naps, in last week or so have really tried to get ds to have regular naps as before was all over the place. have tried to note when gets sleepy and then cuddle him in his favourite blanket combined with gentle rocking - have had some success. the trick i have found is to put him down in the blanket so his head does not touch cold cot - i feel this is what has made him wake up before - though at mo naps are all over the place again.

lg - poor lo and poor you and dh
hope lo gets better soon, its a worry tho isnt it?

Tamdin, my lo seems to change her naps everday. Certainly keeps me on my toes. Somedays she will go to sleep beautifully on her own in her cot, others only if I cuddle her. PS very jealous of your gym attendance. I reeeaaally want to go back and restore this body to it's former glory!!

Tibsy, sorry your lo has been poorly. L'adegirl, mine also has a cold. She's had a hacking cough and snores louder than her Daddy at the moment!

Well, today was very iffy. We both had a few tears earlier because we were both miscommunicating. I thought she was tired, she thought she wasn't tired but didn't know what she was. Lots of whingy clingyness. I got rreally frustrated and cried and she....stopped. weird, like she felt bad for making me feel bad to which I then felt bad for making her feel bad about me feeling bad. Keeping up?

Anyway, turned out that she was tired because I brought her down and put her on her rubber ring and after a while of chatting to herself she fell asleep.

Anyway, this evening I caught a glimpse of what looks like a split in the gum. Could this be the first tooth? I couldn't feel anything and of course I couldn't get her to open her mouth to look in again but it looked like a little tooth size split is the only way to describe it. How long before the tooth appears?

Anyway

ginger - as usual not had a chance to catch up on all posts. had my niece and her son stay over at the weekend and today was visiting my bessie in Eastbourne. she has a two year old and 5 mth old. What a handful! anyway, re: the split gum.... how exciting. when dd got her first tooth 9 years ago it looked like she had a shard of glass in her mouth just before it emerged. Maybe your lo's sleeplessness is owing to this bloody tooth. When it falls out in four years, I wouldhave the bloody thing mounted and framed! .
anyway - three wakings last night, two the night before but one for nearly an hour - those are the killers aren't they?! Today ds has been perfect. lovely naps, fantastic mood so why tonight was he a pita (pain in the ar**!?). he has only just settled after bf him to sleep by 6:45pm. Still at leat dd is away with ma and pa so i did not have her to fret about.
I will read all the posts and catch up properly tomorrow....nite all

Ginger; DS has the same - a split in the bottom gum. I can feel a sharp edge so think this might be the tooth at last! Not sure if its emergence will make him less grumy though. Re the sling shop: if you go out of Wood Street Station it's about 5 mions down Wood St on the opposite side of the road in a covered market.

Typing may be a bit erratic as DS managed to prise off one of the shift keys this morning - god knows how!

Naps havenb't been good todayu - tried to get him to take his morning nap in his cot - no luck. DH took him out and he had a good sleep, still tired after lunch so took him into bed with me and he fretted for ages before sleeping for hald an hour. I'm blaming the tooth but it may well be bloody-mindedness!

Lemonadegirl: both DS and I have a cold (me worse than him for some reason). I propped his cot up on a couple of books at one end, put some Karvol on a muslin and gave him a bit od Medised. All seem to have helped.

Cruisemum: love the idea of framing this blasted tooth

Here's to a good - or at least better - night.

maebee - does your lo go to sleep on boob in day? I know you said that you have a proper nap 'ritual'. I want ds to sleep in cot in day but he screamed the place down a couple of days ago...for 40mins and I don't know what to do to encourage cot naps.....I never bf to sleep in day so don'#t want to start. What did you do?
Ginger - did you use the fleece for naps. Still think it sounds like such a lovely investment.
Tamdin - yeah - ds can stay awake anywhere between 2 and 3 hrs now so i never really know how to guage it. oh the trials and tribulations of motherhood...!

Cruise, yes I've been using the sheepskin for naps and she is going into the cot. It is really lovely, soft and snuggly. Thinking about it it might be really good for you because you can put them in their buggies so your DS could sleep on it in his buggy for a week or so and then progress to the cot. That might actually work.

Swizzler, thanks again. I spoke to the nice lady in the shop today, I phoned for some advice. I'm still confussed so may have to go down there. I had narrowed it down to the EllaRoo wrap or the Maya Ring sling but now I'm thinking about this ergo soft carrier thing. Too much choice.

hi all. Ginger..it took about a week for ds's 1st tooth to come through after the split appears but like everything i'm sure they're all different. Think i may have found the reason (or excuse!) for last week of bad nights. His 2nd molar on right side has finally come through the gum today. He's had terrible nappies today and brought up his bottle tonight but we gave him some nurofen and some more milk and he was relatively easy to put to bed (30 mins...thast's easy in this house)
swizz medised is very good for helping them get to sleep with a cold so hope he gets some much needed sleep tonight.
cruise...2 and 3 wakings sounds good but taking up to an hour to settle is such a killer.you're still our mother superior as you're the only one coping with 2!!!!!

Glad you found the shop Ginger - was it Sarah you spoke to?

Not sure Swiz, I didn't catch her name. If you talk to her I was the one that blabbed on and on and asked lots of irritating questions. She was very nice though.

ginger and swizz, sorry about poor lo's discomfort but how exciting tho!!! dd still has no signs of emerging teeth
tamdin, poor ds

tibs how's dd tonight?

restless tam, had to call the doc out on sat as she had a high fever, so have been worried about her but she does seem to be improving. had some food for the first time in 4 days today too

have put her into her cot for the first time tonight too so i expect that'll be strange for her. no doubt she'll end up in with us later

hows ds doing, still asleep?

poor dd. fever's scare the shit out of me as when i worked in the nursery I saw a few incidents of febrile convulsions due to high fever and so am paranoid incase he starts fitting (way too paranoid i know....i'm a worrier it's my weakness).
he's stil asleep atm. heard a few rustlings but think he's just moving around.
should really go talk to dh who's watching 'have i got old news for you' but you know how addictive mn is!

not sure if you'll be back but off to bed tibs. Think we all need a good night's sleep so fingers crossed. Hope dd is feeling alot better tomorrow. night x

DS still asleep - went down about 7. We're experimenting with bedding AGAIN and have gone back to sheets and blankets - perhaps he does prefer this? Or maybe I should stop fretting...

night tam! febrile convulsions, i know, thats what i was worried about (thats why ive been wearing her for 4 days) am a bit tired now tho

swizz - 2 1/2 hrs, thats good hey?!! i think ive tried different variations of bedding too...keeping cool, keeping warm, lying on mattress, lying on quilt so nice and cosy, in sleeping bag, under quilt, under sheet and blankets......aggghhhhhh!!!!!!! have really given up trying now,.... until i get desperate again.

Hey guys, just to say I am still here, and I am sure I will be back and forth for a while! My brother and his tribe are here in Plymouth from Durham so we spent some time catching up. Have not seen him since his wedding, two weeks after my mum passed away, and unfortunately he had some sad news in that he will not be at my wedding as he is in the army and will be abroad on exercise . He was going to give me away on behalf of mum, so thats sort of screwed it all up .

It means we went out for dinner, LO had a late night at 9pm! Bless her, she is sleeping ok but has another tooth. Two at top now, but funnily not the front two, but one front and one eye tooth . Her naps are screwed. She does not appear to want a morning one atm, and her pm one gets later who knows what is going on!
I hope you have a good night with your LOs and hopefully I will be able to get on a spend some time catching up with some posts.

PS - swizzler, have not sent the oregel yet, will do it tomorrow, LO is in nursery so will have time, promise!

crap nite here - shattered - uuuugh

why do they wake so frequently? when will it stop? anyone else feel as knackered as me today? Hope you all had a blissful nights sleep - it will give me hope!

Sorry, but a crap night here too. DS slept really wellto start with - 3 hrs, then just over 2, but waaking every hour and a half from 1am. He's coldy which doesn't help. Should really have given some more Medised at about midnight but was too tired to thinkk about finding it and just hoping he would sleep!

hi all! parents are gone, the sun is shining, and our night was fine....although both me and dp have arse pain: he has a weird diarrohea (spelling?!?) bug AGAIN, and i have been eating badly which means my anal fissure is playing up, blood, soreness etc. grrrrrr.
but the lo is doing good at his naps AND his nighttime sleep still and thinks broccoli is wonderful, so well done him! it was his half year birthday yesterday and i felt all emotional at how well he is doing.
cruisemum: my lo used to just fall asleep on breast or in sling, then he graduated to falling asleep in a buggy (after a while of screaming the place down), now i sometimes feed him before a nap, always for the morning one, but put him in the cot awake, he usually fights but only for a few minutes and we do that pupd thing, or just hands on, ssshing (i am your still waters!), and he usually goes off within minutes. SOMETIMES tho, he fights for 30 mins, and if its too long, we just give up because its too painful for me. and then we try again in 20 mins if he still seems tired.
his bad habit is waking up after 20 mins often, although getting less so ,and we put him back down for longer usually, although he sometimes is too outraged and i cant bear it. his optimum nap time is 1 hr 15 min, and when he manages that (i obsessively make records on his mood and sleep patterns!!) then he is well rested and happy.
so, in short, i dont feed him to sleep!

amberjee - i sing a song that goes ' time for a nap, time for a nap, all of the babies are having a nap...' but any song will do as long as its the same one, so its familiar each time!