new 'SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK' thread

[tibsy]

hi ladies, the other one ran out of space, so if no one else starts a new thread, here it is....

I agree completely Swizzler - 1 day a week is great socialisation from this age on I beleive. Which is why we want to do it each week although we dont need to, along with continuity for her. It means we are still likely to hear her first words, see her first steps and like you be main carers, but able to let her grow and develop confidence.

Sleep well .

OK, I am off to bed too. I expect most of you are already there. Probably been in and out of REM sleep several times along with you LOs!

Fingers crossed for a good night for all LOs. I hope the sun shines tomorrow and we all wake up refreshed and feeling ok!

well, i went to bed at 9.15. he didnt wake til 12 after all that early waking stuff....think i gave him dinner too late, maybe his belly was bothering him?
our night was ok, 2 wakings. my dp is absolutely shattered tho and thinks it was a bad night, so not sure how that works.
tried giving my lo (hes not so little, hes 5 and a half months, and hes 21lb to boot!) a slice of apple, after reading about baby led weaning, and he just kept chomping chunks off and choking...am i doing something wrong? i was too chicken and took it off him in the end.
got up at 5.30 this morning. groan. roll on the REAl clocks change.
re:cranial osteopathy...it turned my boy from a permanatly stroppy one, to a mostly stroppy one, so thought it was a success!

MaeBee: have a feeling that you shd leave apple for a bit and start with bits of steamed carrots etc. I'm starting solids today as well - will try a bit of pureed carrot and give DS a section to munch on as well. He's big as well (19 lb at 23 weeks) and I'd like to start him on solids before I go back too work. Don't think I'll be doing BLW as such, but giving plenty of finger foods as well as mushy stuff.

Our night was OK again - 3 wakings about 2.5 hours apart. Looking back, I think the 1 hr wakings must have been due to DS learning to sit up, which he managed a couple of days ago. He's trying to roll at the moment but not getting very far! Awake at 6:30 again, which is OK I s'pose (esp when those clocks go back ).

morning all. pretty good night here just the usual 2 wakings (11 and 3)for some milk and straight back to sleep. Having read NCSS he's definitely using the night to take in more calories but don't know how to get him to eat more during the day. He has a big breakfast, lunch with a whole banana as pudding and dinner every day. The lunch and dinner portions aren't enormous but how can you force a toddler to eat when he's full. Will keep persevering in the hope that he'll take in all his calories during the day and not wake for milk in the night anymore.
maebee 2 wakings at 5 1/2 months seems good to me.
tibsy ds has cran. os. and it definitely seemed to help him and it's also supposed to improve their immune system for life (according to jan de fries)and (touch wood) he's never been sick bar a snotty nose but never had an ear infection, virus or chest infection which would be pretty common by this age, maybe just coincidence

morning all!
after the horrendous evening, (thank god i kept a sense of humour) , lo slept in her cot til 12 when she came in for a feed. then didnt feed again til 3.45am!! a bloody record by recent nights. expect she exhausted herself anyway, meant that she didnt wake up for the day til 6.45am!!!!!!!!!
hope everyone else is feeling refreshed. no sunshine where we are

Maebeee isn't the best BLW food to start with because it does break off wuite a bit. Try some carrott sticks or squash. Mango and bannana are good sweet things to try (bannana stains btw) leave a bit of skin on so they've got a handle (you can cut the bannana in half and peal it half down cutting away the flappy bits). There is a difference between choking and gagging tho and gagging does happen just try not to panic about it. You'll know if they're really chocking because they'll panic and not be able to breath in which case you need to follow the appropriate first aid procedures but honestly you'll get this when you progress from puree to finger food anyway so you're just bi-passing a stage.

My night was totally shit. I was awake nearly every hour. She's been so grizzly the last two or three days, high pitched whining and crying ALL day that I'm finding it difficult not to get cross. WTF is wrong? She's at it at the moment and it's driving me bonkers.

maebee, I meant apple isn't the best first BLW food!

hi bampa, x posted then just putting dd down for a nap. am heading off to weaning threads as dd not put much weight on the last 3 weeks and i think shes not getting enough milk and too much gloop! catch you later

ginger for your shit night. hope the morning improves for you

Pav, we're tres desperado for baby orajel here. I've looked all over the interweb for a supplier but can't find one. Did you locate one?

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ginger - ds does that sometimes. i shouted at him to shut up on monday, i find it sooooo annoying. then i felt awful as he was obviously upset about something. he is so active at the mo too. hard to carry round and NEVER still. reaching for things, leaning out, wriggling. and he sort of growls too as if he is cross! it is very cute and amusing but sometimes irritating. don't recall dd being like this. sorry about your bad night. i guess you win the prize for most wakings . sometimes i feel i should be doing something to fix this but i don't know what.

hi everyone,
just to check in and say hello to all fellow non sleepers. I was woken up at 3.30, then again at 5am by the same angry baby who then cried furiously and snuffled until 7am. I had despatched my DH to the spare room to get some sleep when she first woke up, so when he came back in to start getting ready for work her mood immediately changed and she sat cooing and smiling at him whilst I sulked amongst the pillows. It felt like midday, couldn't believe it wasn't even 7.30am!!!! Nevermind, at least the sun is shining and caffeine always helps a bit!

kate sounds so much like when my ds was that age. Your mum is right though they grow up so fast so i had to keep trying to remind myself back then (even though i was exhausted) to try and enjoy him and go with the flow. Have just finished reading no cry sleep solutions and it's pretty good and very gentle. Might be good for you to read as your lo is so small. I'm trying to implement some of her ideas and he's over 1 so fingers crossed! x

have not got time to read through past posts- although I will do at some time but thought I would share...

After a great night on Tuesday, last night was appalling - awake every hour again - WTF

Ah well - grandma here today

I checked re growth spurts and they're due another at about 6 months - cd this account for some of the poor nights? As I said, think the last lot was due to DS learning to sit up.

Despatch: DS is asleep IN HIS COT having his second nap of the day indoors! First nap was in bed with me - fed hin to sleep then had a cuddle and a nap myself. Not feeling guilty about getting as many cuddles as I can before going back to work .

growth spurts are propaganda from the babies themselves i reckon!!
(says me on my 3rd afternoon snack already!!!)
my lo went down for 2 hrs at midday, me with him then i snuck off to hang the laundry up etc. glad hes had a decent long nap at last, even if it wasnt in his cot. the one this morning only lasted 20 mins, but then he called out, and when i peeped he was happily looking about...and continued to do so for 10 or 15 mins! unheard of!

so, bravely gave my boy a stick of roasted parsnip, peeled etc, and he loved it, but i was terrified! he grabs it and shoves it in really fast (complete with grunting noises) but coughs and splutters and im so scared he'll choke. cant believe what an anxious mother ive become! i turned it into sludge but he didnt eat with as much vigour.

me and my dp are off out tonight for my belated birthday meal. am really nervous about leaving the boy cos, as y'all know, he was up 4 times before 9 last night, and what if he does it to our friends who are babysitting? we are leaving a bottle of wine for them, and one of them teaches at the local Steiner kindergarten, and they were the ones who brought us home from hospital when he was born, so i KNOW they wont mind too much, but i wish he was less erratic! he may well just sleep through til we get home.
fingers crossed.

hey, get in all those cuddles you can before going back to work! and a bit of daytime tv if you can face it!

cruisemum - my boy constantly growls too! its like his annoyed, trying to do something noise! he wiggles and squirms and growls and when he gets what he reaches for he is furious with it, as if it isnt doing what he wants!
oh, sweet motherhood!

kate - these babies are such shammers sometimes. dd can have been a grumpy monkey all day for me, then when dp comes home its all beamy smiles and big blue eyes!!!

lori, sorry you had a bad night. it WILL get better, dont know when, but it will...

swizzler - yey for the naps and good for you on the cuddle front. am sure lo loves it too

maebee, lo will be fine and lovely babysitting friends will too. theyll probably appreciate the cuddle time themselves if he does wake up, although, sods law, he'll sleep thru as dd did for my mum and dad on new years eve. hasnt happened since mores the pity!! the choking thing is a bit scary, but as someone else said on earlier post, their reflexes are pretty good and they have a way of spitting the bits out themselves as dds highchair is proof of.

sorry to be boring and repeat last night, but dd has already woken twice.
think i must be having an off day as i feel like crap and am doubting my abilities as a mother atm. maybe i'm premenstrual or something. why do other babies sleep for at least a couple of hours when mine seems intent on waking every 1/2 hour at the beginning of an evening?
just a whole evening to myself would be great, dont mind if she wakes up twice or even 3 times in the night to feed, i just want a chuffing evening without being on edge, waiting for her to start crying.
as much as i love her, and i do, i really do, i just want to be able to sprawl out on the settee and read or watch crap tv.
ok, moan over, thanks

Tibsy: wa just about to type a reply when DS woke up an took ages to settle! Evenings are a killer - for a long time DS would take up to 2 hrs to settle at night - I'd bath him when he got tired and then bf, he'd drop off, I'd put him in the cot, he'd wake up and cry, I'd feed him again... it is SO tiring and by the time you do have a bit of time to yourself you're too tired to enjoy it (and listning out for the next wail).

You're NOT a bad mum, you're doing a great job

hello
just discovered this conversation. i have a little two year old, he's always been a rubbish sleeper, still breastfeeding, although he cured my insomnia, i'd not slept for more than two hours a night for 14 years, so I can't really get mad with him.

Hi Rosie . My DS is 5 months old - hang on I think he's awake again, must dash...