new 'SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK' thread

[tibsy]

hi ladies, the other one ran out of space, so if no one else starts a new thread, here it is....

amberjee - going to bed at 8 or 9 is not pathetic!!!
im sure the confessions will impress...what time do other sleepless mums go to bed?? i often go at 7.30. my dp refuses and sleeps on the sofa downstairs with a book in hand, as if thats better!
does your baby go to bed at night ok? sleeping lying down i mean? mine much prefers it on his side, ideally face to face with me. he goes on his own cot mattress for the early bit of the night but i give in for naps usually, and for early morning, and have him in the crook of my arm like that, so he still has his front against me. if you havent tried everything, maybe give it a go.

i think i have tried everything. but then i go back and try it again. we used to be successful getting the occasional nap cuddled up close, but now, the moment we are lying down, not moving, its awake time. strangely, he can settle in the evening with not too much trouble (well, a little bit of trouble, but its all relative isn't it). He can do the first stretch of the evening in his cot fine, in a peaceful sleep, though he is easy to wake up if there is noise such as me creeping into bed and the bed makes a creaking noise - can't believe its that scary to get into bed these days.
so he sleeps ok on his back for that short period. i think that he could sleep on his side next to me if i left my nipple in his mouth and didn't move at all, but unfortunately i need to get a little comfy to sleep, but maybe i can learn to sleep like a totally still plank of wood - it may become necessary!

I'm often in bed before 9 esp if DS has had a bad night. Might stay up till, ooh, 9:30 tonight

wow, don't go crazy swizzler!!

think ive mentioned this before, but apparantly most babies have their deepest sleep at the beginning few hours, so, 7 til 12 or something. after that, its the light REM stuff we all dread! so, if you want a big stretch, you have to go to bed early. there is no shame in getting your head down just after the simpsons!!!
saying that, my horrible brat has woken 4 times now since i put him down. grrrr. and his dad is out, so im alone in the pleasure of rocking him back to sleep.

Maebee: 2 wakings so far here - but not counting them as I'm not asleep

maebee and swizzler - two wakings here so far too. Maybe we could turn this whole thing on it's head and make it a competition!!!. that way, the more sleep deprived we are, the more victorious we can feel! OK... maybe not then. Just trying to add a hint of positivity . Didn't realise yours was so tiny maebee. AT 10 weeks mine was sleeping 10 hours - dunno what went wrong . Love him to bits though and still am in awe of his little hands, tiny finger nails, beautiful profile while he is bf...ahhh.

I f***g hate REM!

OK: 2 wakings!!! Yessss!!! Going for 10 tonight!!!

hi ladies, 3 wakings so far, bed at 6.45pm. have sent dp up to deal with dd as just been ordering shopping online, flash git that i am! am i in the runnings?

oh and apparently, according to my mum, i didnt sleep properly until i went to school. thanks for sharing that with me mother

Still behind MaeBee at 4, but you're in with a chance (about 4:1 I'd say. MB is evens )

maebee, my lo is off for a 'taster' session of cranio osteopathy at my work. how did your lo respond?

oh shit, shes just started up again with dp, think i'd better go and wrestle her off him!
does that count as another waking, cos she was asleep on him a minute ago

then again, i think i should be penalised as mb has the disadvantage of hubby being out..... really gotta go now

Adding a handicap system is beyond me...

hi everyone

long time no post! I have been logging on and reading a bit but having to go before I have a chance to reply...

ginger - how are you going to get fat on fruit and veg purees? rofl!

tibsey - osteopath did nothing for my lo that I could see, just took my money!

re bedtimes - unless absolutely shattered I insist in going to bed at my usual time of 11pm otherwise I lose all that precious "me" time once kids are in bed - after being worn to a frazzle by them all day I desperately need that time, just try to catch up on some sleep at weekends when dh is around. but when lo was doing the 2 hourly waking thing I would go to bed soon after his bedtime of 8pm, and resented it so much!

nights are going ok here (2 feeds a night usually - fab by recent standards - sorry) its just ds1 getting up at unearthly hours of the morning that's doing me in...he's 3 1/2 and just to reassure you this has been a recent thing - before that he'd sleep till 7 even 8. he starts school in sept so I'm hoping that will knock him out for a bit longer! as for lo, I am hoping that once solids are established he will take less and less at night, at the moment he's clearly hungry.

naps are going ok as long as he is swaddled up in his cot otherwise if out in car or buggy he doesn't sleep for long.

he's really taken to the solids and seems v hungry at the moment, have just upped his meals to 3 a day and today he as so hungry he had puddings too at lunch and dinner! I am not enough for him any more . he cries when I give him root veg (bless!) but will eat sweet potato or butternut squash (must remember to try them as finger foods - lo didn't like rice cakes or rusk, didn't like the lumps) and wolfs down any fruit I give him. he turns 6 months next week and can't wait to give him proper meals. he's crying on and off tonight though as I think he ate too much - big bfeed at 5.15pm, big dinner at 6.30pm (peach puree and half a little jar of organic rice pudding) and another bfeed at 8pm bedtime. I don't think I should have given him the second bfeed - poor little mite's probably got tummy ache . last night I didn't give the bedtime feed and he was fine.

ds just woke again. That makes three so far!

Is this a competition for least or most wakings? None so far...I know for sure I have just effed that up....

Swizzler - back to work, well meant to be there right now. But, Dr gave me some time off work due to personal stuff going on, month in total so due back 26th March. Some of the personal stuff has been serious work issues, which my union is helping me resolve. Fingers crossed, I get my desires met in order to keep the peace at work! I am hoping to do 3 days per week too, but will be doing 30 hours per week. I have not sorted it yet, keep being fobbed off about it, but hopefully by end of this week should be clearer. Even so, it will be 'full time' for a while on a phased return as I have been off for so long, and my work is quite demanding, has risk issues involved. Is your LO in nursery/childcare yet? Or being looked after by relative? If so, I would recommend a little time each week now to get you and LO used to it. I found today really difficult.

Ginger - sorry for your bad night. I hope this evening brings you more luck.

Maebee - bed time usually 11pm (sorry for breaking your theory!). It probably explains why I am so grumpy! I cant sleep too early, and if I go to bed and get woken up too soon I get a headache, get ultra pee'd off, LO wakes up at 11pm for BF so I usually go to bed then. However, last night, I went to bed at 8pm!!!

cruise - am level pegging with maebee, just hit 4, have taken my vest top off and put it beside her in the vain hope that she'll think i'm still around.......yeah right!!

Pavlov: I'm working 30 hours over 4 days (usually 35 hrs f/t). DH is looking after DS as he works from home, is freelance, and things are quiet at the moment. May look into a CM later on. DH has been really hands-on since DS was born, but still thinking about a trial run before going back to work - may spend the day doing something nice rather than at work though!

kiera glad nights are getting better but mornings are getting earlier. ours are too unfortunately 5.55am this morning.

thanks for that re. the osteo, its only a 20 min taster session and only costs £5 (promotion thing) so i thought i'd have a go and give lo a try too. some of these things are SO expensive and when they say that its dependent on you having so many sessions i think

Swizzler - I might have to do 4 days too, or 3.5. I am a bit of sucker for long days anyway when I am work, nature of the job, so if its going to be a long day I will make it official!
My DP has cut his ours down to 3 days per week. He earns less money than me so although its going to be tough financially its not as bad as if I cut down more hours. He works shifts, so means one week LO needs 1 day, following week none, however we will do 1 per week regardless. If I do another half day, then 1.5 days per week. Thats enough for LO, and for us, for now at least. I like that we are sharing the childcare, like you and your DP.

Would be interested to hear how that works out as it sounds v like our situation. TBH, childcare 1 day a week (when DS is a little older) sounds like a good idea as he'll still be cared for mostly by me and DH but still gets the social side of XM/nursery.

CM, that is. Must go to bed now