'Sleep is for the Weak' for anyone with August/Sep 06 DC's

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GM, Cruise and anyone else with LO's born around August/September 06' - this is a support thread for when you have no clue as to why your LO is doing the exact opposite to what they were doing last week and when you are thinking WTF????
Post on here and we shall all compare notes and comfort each other!!

redbeki - last night not too bad. two wakings and up by 6:15am . Still getting better than before though

morning
cruise, congrats on your 8pm bedtime, a definite improvement heh? i bet dd loved it?
had a good night last night still woke, but only once a sheer miracle by recent standards. not even going to hope its the start of something good tho as dd may have other ideas
redbeki, hope your night went ok and all you other ladies, have a lovely weekend

seems like we all had a better night.my lo went down at 8.30 and didn't wake then til' 2.45 ,in cot,so loads better.So i feel better too, .I gave her some food at t-time which helped,maybe.One thing is for sure,every night is different.Hope you all have good weekends.Those of us with others at school,we can all look forward to the school runs again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

echo your comments about every night being different! better than before though, that is the main thing . having said that, ds's naps been awful today hope that doesnt mean a bad night sleep

where's Marls? she must be doing great?!

i just typed a reply to you all and it vanished!

well it sounds like our los are finally settling down? last night lo bfed 8pm, 10.45pm, bottle with dh at 2.15am then went till 6am so I got to sleep right through from 11.30pm till 6am which was WONDERFUL . and cruise his naps were awful all day yesterday too - so fingers crossed for you tonight...

have also solved the problem of overnight engorgement - dug out my old nipple shells and sterilised them, stuck one over one nipple inside my night bra while I fed lo with the other at the 6am feed. I brought a sterilised container up to bed with me too to put the contents of the shell in, it only takes an oz or two but it's enough to keep me from leaking everywhere until the next feed or until I get up when I can express without losing more sleep. otherwise I'm up another half an hour downstairs putting pump together, expressing, feeding cat who's decided its morning etc etc...

naps are still touch-and-go here though - does anyone here stick to regular naptimes? I'm wondering if this might help as we have a regular bed-time and he goes to sleep OK then...or maybe he's just knackered lol!

where is everyone? hope this means you're all happy and los are behaving!

morning. just cvhecking in. more later!

hi kiera and everyone
hope everyone has had good weekends. we've had teething symptoms again during the day! so last night a little wakeful, but otherwise, been getting better. fingers x'd
kiera - re. the naps, we don't have set times, rather dd led. she's going longer between naps too now , so i tend to take her lead. also, things like teething, upset tum etc upset the apple cart and if i tried to enforce a strict nap time, she'd well and truly throw her teddy out of the pram! also, if i had set times, i'd never make it out to groups and stuff.
am sure it works for a lot of people and i'm not in any way knocking those who have managed to do this, if anything i'm a little but i think babies have got the right idea to eat when they're hungry and sleep (well sometimes!) when they're tired.
cruise, i hope you have had continued success with your evenings

I know what you mean tibsy about babies leading the way,they find their own pattern,but I do put dd down after her lunch,and she's got used to that in the day,and sleeps in cot.I then get things done in house etc.,so having that routine really helps.With my first child tho I was out and about much more.but now I have three,I'm in the house much more ,with so much more to do.I think it makes a difference,if you've got loads more stuff to do,a sleep routine is more important.Works for me anyway,maybe I'm just stricter third time round?

redbecki- 3? good lord! what ages are they? triple respect to you!! can TOTALLY understand why you need more routine, i'm a bit spoiled having a 12 year gap. in a lot of ways, having dd is a little like being a ftm again. i've been going through all the neurosis and anxiety again although i am starting to chill out a BIT now

tibys -kiera- re: naps. DS tends to have pretty regular naps in that they are about two hours from when he last woke. Of course if he has long naps then that os great but today he has had his 2nd 30min nap which mens the day is very long and lo is very grumpy and it drives me mad! Grrrrrrrr. I have a 9 yr age gap between my two so totaly agree with the ftm thing!

Hello,

My dd was Sep 26th 06. Only BF's to sleep - catnaps in the day asleep at breast or out and about. Has just found thumb (found fingers ages ago) so maybe will 'find' thumb in night when wakes rather than constantly wanting to suck on my boob. I live in hope...

hi cruise - dd used to have a very strict 2 hr rule, awake any longer than that and she wasn't happy! she's just started extending it which has brought with it a few probs, esp re. afternoon naps, if it's too late, i've been finding that i've been bringing bath time forward, otherwise she's been getting V mardy. 4-6pm have tried to get her to sleep in desperation, even if it means a later bedtime but she's not having any of it, cheeky monkey...
welcome lovefamily
i've been having this problem too. dd just LOVES bfing to sleep. trying really hard to wean her off it (it's easier during the day as i have more (marginally) stamina!!)
you're in good company

cruise forgot to ask, how are your nights going now?

welcome lovefa,ily - I have ht bf to sleep thing too! I don't bf to sleep in the day but ds will only nap in the car or buggy on the move . At nights the bf to sleep thing has become a real issue as he can take up to two hours to settle with constant waking looking for his 'dummy.' I have started various threads about this since he was 9 weeks old but not managed to divert him as yet. When he is weaned from bf (I am currently trying but he is a determined little wotsit and takes hardly any formula so I end up bf so I know he has had some milk) then the problem will really rear it's ugly head adn I suspect there will be tears shed
Tibsy - nights are up and down but down to one or two wakings which is manageable . Hope you are getting some zzzzz's too

tibsy - I am sure Ihave asked you a million times but how old is your lo? Mine is 23 weeks.

Ginger - Thanks. very relieved. Hard to come across sometimes without gestures, facial expressions, intonations. Realized how it must have sounded after I typed & that's why "sorry." Thank you.

Well ... It's been since 7th of Feb. Plenty of time to objectively test "Babywise". Judging solely by our experience, Babywise has been very effective in turning LO around ... so that's why you haven't been seeing too much of me Cruise ... LO's wake times have been zig-zagging later ... between 5 & 6 am ... 5:38 this morning, for example. His last feed of the night is 9pm. We're thinking about making it 8:30pm.

Since the fourth night after starting (relatively) strict nap times and feeding schedules, he has not woken between 10:30 pm and 5 am even once. And even better, he is a noticeably happier baby. His disposition has really changed over the past few wqeeks. I think that getting enough straight-through sleep and having a consistent schedule day-to-day has helped him. SO ... it worked for us. Just to let y'all know.

I can safely say I don't need this thread anymore. I hope y'all can say the same very soon!!!!

Thank you all for your help and support. Thankfully we're done building our family and won't be doing the newborn thing again (until grandkids )

cruise - glad nights are getting better. mine are too on and off! fingers x'd dd is 25 wks, 6 months on the 27th of this month!! where did that go?

marls - congratulations, sounds like you've cracked it there is hope for us all!

hope everyone has a good nights rest.....with plenty of zzzzzzzzzzzzzz's

marls- I think I will miss you!!! Well done though. Sounds like you are now able to enjoy your precious bundle! .
Tibsy - I knew they were about the same age (3 weeks apart more or less) . Yes it does seem that thigns are getting better - slowly but surely . AGree with the time flyign thing. I mostly tell people lo's age in months rather than weeks now. A sure sign that he no longer a newby . Almost feel nostalgic for his newness ifkwim? I am enjoying him though. He's beautiful !
Marls - in case you check in.... did your routine enforcement thingy involve many tears? Just curious..... Good luck and take care

HI Everyone, haven't checked in for a while. Glad to hear some people are seeing improvement. Marls. Teriffic news, long may it continue.

Cruise, glad things are on the up. I'm also feeling a bit nostalgic for the babyness however I'm enjoying DD more and more everyday. She just gets so much more interesting. I think I've learned a lot and will hopefully be wiser for the second!

My DD has been much better with sleeping. It's odd really as nothing has changed. I've not started weaning her, she's still bf. She's just got so much better all on her own. She's settling really really well and not waking up hourly. We're still having nightime pooing sessions which unfortunately keep us up for a while, especially last night when it exploded over all her clothes and by the time I changed her and everything she was wide awake wanting to play. However she did settle in bed with me pretty well afterwards. Short of corking it I'm not sure what I can do about that. Wish she's get it over with tho because she normally feeds and then takes a good 30 minutes of blowing bubbles, farting, squeeling before finaly pooing!!!

Anyway, once our friends have visited in a couple of weeks we will be putting her in her own room. Have to say tho, I'm dreading it. I'll miss her

gingerninga - glad things are improvniog for you. They are such a joy at this age aren't they! ds keeps grabbing everything that he can reach including my wine glass....naughty boy! Love this stage of babyhood.
Let's hope it continues for us all and gets better still....

hi lovefamily.
my lo only one not to have dummy,and just found her two fingers,which she sucks backwards!.i think she can settle herself in night to an extent,but still wants booby a lot!which is so draining.as the sleep thang just ain't happenin,if you know what I mean?

Wow Tibs that must've taken some reajustment.My ds is 6,and dd1 9.Both at school which is nice in day,coz I feelike a f.t.m.again too.
ginger,I feel for you with the pooing at night,my lo has not done that yet,and it must be really draining
Also,can anyone enlighten me about 'babywise'.I'm a bit ignorant,but it sounds interesting.
That's it for me for tonight,a wee glass of wine is in order,and bed with my book,for a few hours anyway,hope your sleeps are better than mine will be.

redbeki - I am sending positive but sleepy vibes to all on this thread. I think the worst of it is the uncertaintly of how your night will pan out isn't it. Great that your lo has found fingers worth sucking! my ds wioll not take adummy and can't be bothered with sucking his thumb/fingers. Prefers my boob. Wondering how I will ever get the little monkey weaned from them - esp at bedtime. Any ideas???

tibsy - is your eldest a ds/dd? Mine is a dd and she loves being a big sister. More like a mini mum really! Such an enormous help, en she feels like it of course!

Anyone know waht happened to cc21 and the rest?????

Hey all, back again, been to my brother's wedding from Plym to Durham. Wow, I have done a lot of travelling over the last fewq months, so has LO. She is the best, I love her very much.

EVEN THO SHE WOKE AT 2AM AND DID NOT GO BACK TO SLEEP.