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Anyone on for another 4 month sleep regression hand-holding thread?!

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uppereastsidemom · 29/08/2015 01:24

DD2 is 16 weeks and had been doing 7pm - woken up at 11.30ish for a feed - 5 or 6am. Happy days.

She is now waking up anytime between 7 and 10pm, going back down but reliably waking up for 2-3 hours between 3 and 6am. It is torture. I know this is a predictable phase that will pass, but christ it is miserable.

Waiting to see what tonight brings Smile. I know there had been an active thread that seems to have died - hopefully meaning that all those babies are now sleeping beautifully Grin

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Purpleboa · 14/10/2015 10:56

Thanks Finding. Not great, got a pounding headache. But determined to go ahead with my plans. Trying not to give into despair! Hoping the reason last night was so bad was because of the jabs...

Pyjamaramadrama · 14/10/2015 13:29

Thanks purple, sorry you had such a bad night.

I think that I spoke to soon, ds woke up at 11.30pm and just couldn't settle back down. Ended up in our bed until 2.30am when I fed him, he usually goes straight back to sleep but he was lying there wide awake so ended up back in our bed. So far he's missed his afternoon nap today.

It will get better but it could go on for some time. I'm trying to just go with it.

My ds1 was a great sleeper and I'm doing all the same things with da2 but he's just a much more needy baby. I was hoping that he'd sleep through by 6 months but I've given up on that and resigned myself to that fact that I may well not get a full nights sleep for a long time.

starfish12 · 14/10/2015 13:54

Hugs to everyone....

We had a shit night too. I'd slept 2 hrs by 3am. Then he pood and the whole rigmarole took another hr to get him back off. He slept till 740 after that (injections sleepiness I think) but of course I was up first thing with DS1. I could also weep today...
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Spl0ink · 14/10/2015 20:22

Hello all, just wanted to chuck some love in. The driving away from my life idea has also been haunting me the last few days. It's a frightening feeling but knowing that it's normal and that your stories are so similar to mine makes me feel better.

My 19 week old is so changeable that I don't even think the regression has hit yet. We've had a few nights of up every two hours, but then last night I only fed him once. But he moans and kicks his legs up and down in the air in his sleep, so even when he's sleeping, we're not.

He screamed bloody, bloody murder when we put him to bed tonight. Me and DH had to tag team as it was so intense. God knows what that foretells. Good luck everybody x

Purpleboa · 14/10/2015 21:37

Hey all

So I'm lying here fantasising about...the way nights used to be. The way me and DH would go to bed (in the same room!!) give each other a hug, catch up on our days, read...then go to sleep. Lovely, uninterrupted, long sleep.

Back to reality: we also had an epic screaming session this evening. Despite everything else, I usually had no problems in getting DD to sleep (albeit fed to sleep, but whatevs). Tonight -,wow. She screamed and screamed and screamed some more! Hubby gave settling her a try. Emerges 15 mins later, looking shaken, screams still echoing in his wake. 'Maybe we should try cry it out?' he suggests. We look at each other. Got nothing to lose. Settle in the living room, he puts on his (noise cancelling) headphones and turns on his PS4. Oh, right. Silly me, thinking we might actually spend some quality time together (against the backdrop of our firstborn's wailing). I crack after two minutes and get her out of her cot. Shush pat, white noise, jiggle jiggle. Back in cot. Crying starts again. On repeat, until insanity takes you.

She's asleep, finally, but I'm expecting another bad night. Oddly enough, it doesn't feel too bad. There's something rather comforting about hitting rock bottom! Although it may be a different story at 3am...

Good luck ladies! That what don't kill you, makes you stronger...or gives you more wrinkles...

Purpleboa · 14/10/2015 21:39

Oh and welcome, Sploink! Yes, it is a huge comfort to know,we are not alone x

FindingNormal · 14/10/2015 21:47

Actually got her to sleep by 7:30 this evening, husband went to check on her and I hear the words I'd been dreading come over the monitor..."she's pood"Sad

Fleurchamp · 15/10/2015 08:17

Hi all

Room for another?

I have a 13 week old DS. He has never napped during the day, despite my (heroic?!?) attempts but I always comforted myself with the fact that he slept pretty well during the night.

Last Friday he slept 8-1.30, fed and then slept until 7am. Happy days.

Since then it has gradually deteriorated and last night was 8- 10.45pm, fed, screamed until 2am (I don't do CC either, so DH and I took turns jiggling, rocking, dancing), fed again, bit more rocking. Finally slept at 3am. Up for the day at 6.15am.

I am now trying to get him to nap. He is in his cot grizzling. He has been there for half an hour.

It hasn't even been a week and I am feeling suicidal.

I fucking hate my life and my son at times and regret having him.

I'm not even sure if it's a regression, he is only just 3 months. If this is going to be my life I don't want it.

Sorry, probably all v dramatic but I am so tired.

Poor DH is exhausted, he only got 3 hours sleep but he refuses to sleep in the spare room so I can't help him if he won't help himself.

WHY WONT MY CHILD SLEEP?

Pyjamaramadrama · 15/10/2015 09:14

Fleur and purple, it absolutely won't go on forever, I mean one things for certain, they won't be doing this when they're 16. They won't be doing it when they're 6 and probably not when they're 1.

Has anyone tried co-sleeping? My ds1 was an absolute dream baby but as ds2 doesn't sleep so well I just do whatever I've got to do to get through so if that means he comes into our bed so be it.

starfish12 · 15/10/2015 09:23

Welcome Fleur... it's a killer isn't it?! Esp if you have had some good sleeping then suddenly it's snatched away from you. 12 weeks is a big development leap (Google wonder weeks) and also injections?

It won't be your life - it just is for now. The worst is not knowing when it will end but it does. When it does its amazing and yup just have to hang on to that goal! Imagine all the changes happening in their brain - they must be wired right now and restful sleep just doesn't get a look in!

We had another interesting night Hmm. Up at 10 30pm, then managed to sleep a whole 3 hrs woo! Up for an hr, sleep for 45 mins then up for another hour. Wouldn't be boobed to sleep so spent the best part of 2 hrs rocking and ssshing last night.

.... and here we go again for nap timeConfused

Fleurchamp · 15/10/2015 09:48

Well, typical morning nap - an hour of DS laying in his cot whining. Shush pat, white noise, rocking....

Still no sleep.

I lost my temper and shouted at him and now I feel terrible.

Just feeding him and then will put him in the sling and go out walking for the next two hours. Sigh.

starfish12 · 15/10/2015 10:07

Shame it's coming in to winter... at least in summer it's a nice excuse to get out and enjoy the weather! ... and next summer we'll be moaning that we can't leave the house as they will be napping in their cots Confused

Purpleboa · 15/10/2015 14:43

Oh fleur. I could have written your post - in fact I did, check out my 'fcking angry' thread! Exactly the same sentiments. This sleep thing - it can drive you to the brink of insanity. I have also shouted at dd and felt terrible. I apologise and cry while she lies there and coos at me!

My DH is in the spare room, has been since the birth. It is not ideal and I miss him. But it works for us. He deals less well with sleep loss than I do, plus he's started a new high powered job. This way he gets enough sleep to keep him sane and support me, and ashes an early waker, he'll usually take dd around 5/6 so I can get a few hours. Knowing I have this really helps during a bad night. Different approaches work for different couples, but this works for us. For now!

If it's any consolation, after almost a week of awful nights, last night dd slept fairly well - three hours then four hours. Up at 5 but hey, I'll take that - a huge improvement on what came before! So today I feel so much happier and more positive. Tonight may be bad but it has given me hope.

It will pass. It will. You're doing great - we all are!

Purpleboa · 15/10/2015 14:45

Oh and dd's sleep started to get worse when she was 12 weeks! Think she was just getting a head start on the regression, what a girl ;)

Purpleboa · 15/10/2015 14:47

Oh yes and we've tried co sleeping. No dice. DD doesn't care where she lies, she's still going to protest! If she wakes very early I'll try and feed lying down then placing her next to me. But it doesn't always work.

Purpleboa · 15/10/2015 20:31

Me again! tries not to appear too keen. Fails

So we bought a sleepyhead yesterday, out of desperation, trying not to wince at the hefty price tag. Tonight's our first use of it. I really hope this works - had to talk my DH into it (although after a 3.30am waking, he was suddenly amenable!) Heard great things. She's fast asleep in it so far. Not expecting miracles, but a few hours would be nice!

Good luck for tonight everyone...

Pyjamaramadrama · 15/10/2015 20:45

Those sleepyheads look amazing. They're quite pricey though. Have you put it inside the cot? Do update on how you get on with it.

Wishing everyone some sleep tonight.

FindingNormal · 15/10/2015 20:59

Ooh yes- let us know about the sleepyhead. I'm still tempted although reckon husband would need a lot of persuading...

Purpleboa · 16/10/2015 04:12

Huh. What a fucking surprise. Sleepy head makes no difference SadAngry

Well, she went to sleep soundly enough, and lasted for 3.5 hours. Then another two. And now we're back to hourly wakings. Whhhhyyyy???!

I suppose it's only the first night. Who knows, without the sleepyhead it might be worse? It's just so annoying. Read glowing reviews of it online. Trust my baby to resist it. Although she is 16 weeks so maybe it's too late on to introduce it? We'll see.

Just so down. Yesterday was a better day and I'd stupidly allowed myself to think that things will get better. They're not going to, are they?

Pyjamaramadrama · 16/10/2015 06:55

Is she waking hourly for a feed or just for a cuddle? I'm wondering if you could persuade her to have a bottle or two of expressed milk so that your dh could take over at the weekend to let you get a nights sleep.

starfish12 · 16/10/2015 07:08

She'll probably just need time to get used to it purple?. 3.5 then 2 isn't toooooo bad. Think we had wake ups at 9, 10 then pretty much every hour or so all night. I think my boy has an allergy and his injections have really thrown him. Really painful wind and vomiting Sad

I cheered myself up yesterday by reading the Wonder Weeks and apparently between week 14 and 17 they are gearing up for their next leap at week 19 so we really are in the thick of it and it's totally normal for them to behave like loons.

DS is rolling both ways, grabbing his feet, trying to hold things so I guess his brain is wired right now. Am praying he's gonna be like DS1 who was a total nightmare until 19 weeks when he just randomly slept through and we never looked back! (Realise I'm clutching at straws here....!!!)Grin

Fleurchamp · 16/10/2015 07:42

19 weeks you say.....

We have a sleepyhead but we have had it since birth and so I have no idea whether it works. The good thing for me has been getting DS to sleep in it whilst laying next to me in the bed and then making a stealth transfer to his cot.

Yesterday DS did not nap at all. I felt exhausted and have no idea how he stayed awake with all the rocking, sling action etc. naturally he was pooped by 5pm and so he (and I) had an early night.

He woke at 7, 10 stayed awake until 1.30, 4 (yey - 2.5hrs sleep!!) and then 6 for the day. I went to bed at 8pm and so I got about 6 hours of sleep in total and feel amazing for it.

He was hungry each time, god knows how much milk he had overnight - I even gave him 6oz of formula Confused which he downed.

I am determined to have a nice day with DS today. I was so frustrated with him yesterday and spent most of the time feeling guilty.

He gave me the biggest grin this morning Grin

Purpleboa · 16/10/2015 08:11

Yes you're right, it will take a bit of getting used to. She did seem very comfy, and was in a very deep sleep at times. I probably got about 7 hours so not bad at all. I had an awful dream where I'd broke up with my DH and he'd taken custody of dd :( woke up and gave them both the biggest cuddles! Made me realise how damn lucky I am -,how lucky we all are.

Purpleboa · 16/10/2015 08:16

DD still won't take a,bottle! So sadly that's out.

Fleur I always go to bed when baby does, it's the only way I can guarantee myself some sleep!

Purpleboa · 16/10/2015 15:01

Ok so sleepyhead might not have got me a full night...but it has given me two naps, independent of mummy being used as a sleep aid! Just in from gymboree and she's fast asleep in it. I'd been planning a long pram walk so this is great!