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Anyone on for another 4 month sleep regression hand-holding thread?!

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uppereastsidemom · 29/08/2015 01:24

DD2 is 16 weeks and had been doing 7pm - woken up at 11.30ish for a feed - 5 or 6am. Happy days.

She is now waking up anytime between 7 and 10pm, going back down but reliably waking up for 2-3 hours between 3 and 6am. It is torture. I know this is a predictable phase that will pass, but christ it is miserable.

Waiting to see what tonight brings . I know there had been an active thread that seems to have died - hopefully meaning that all those babies are now sleeping beautifully

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FindingNormal · 03/10/2015 04:51

I didn't get any notifications that anyone was still here so I thought I'd kill the thread Oh my fuck I am so tired. E had started to do slightly better (relatively speaking) this week. We had a couple of ignite with only 2 wake ups. So weren't back to where we were before all this shit kicked in but felt we were getting there. This wknd we've come away with some friends and are back to square minus a billion. Am actually seething at our friends too. 3 couples have come away including us, cottages booked by one of he other friends who have a child themselves...this is an annual thing we do. They fucking booked a fucking place (sorry get sweary when tired and angry) which is max 2 hours away from everyone else but we drove 5 hours to get here. So by time we arrived 'bedtime' was well and truly buggered so she didn't get to sleep despite so much boob it's not even funny until after 9. (Helpful suggestion from friend 'a' of "have you tried gently bobbing her up and down" Ffs. ) Then when she actually went to sleep said friend clattered around in the kitchen and woke her up. Now I want to leave tomorrow but husband thinks we should stay. We've had a million wake ups already and I'm seething seething seething and have been just lying here in tears.

And breath.... On a more sane note- anyone tried the sleepy head mattress? Waste of money?

ReRegRhonda · 04/10/2015 13:10

Oh finding that sounds awful I'm so sorry . I'd be insisting we left asap to be honest. I know the angry feeling all too well. I have a sleepyhead for my baby and he loves it - although he had it before and during his sleep regression. My poor darling had his 3rd lot of jabs on Friday and screamed his heart out. That night however he slept really well, 8.30pm-4am for a feed then back up at 7.30am, the same good sleep as after his last jabs! And last night was similar with only one wake up, for a feed. I don't want to speak too soon but after a gruelling few weeks I think he's settling back into his old sleeping patterns. Hang in there. It will get better.

FindingNormal · 04/10/2015 13:28

Thanks re. Well we stayed last night but have left this morning (we're due to stay until Monday) it took over 2 hours to get her to sleep last night but when she finally was down she slept well thank goodness. Am really disappointed in our friends and had the rage again last night as hadn't realised initially but they took the master bedroom for themselves - nice big and airy and we were wedged into a stuffy hot tiny twin which no doubt didn't help us with the sleep situation.

I know that the weekend shouldn't have revolved around our needs but a bit of thought and less selfishness could have made such a difference- even if it didn't help e to sleep it would've meant I was less ragey.

Glad your lo slept better after the jabs. Don't you just hate the scream they let out- have to remind myself that it's so much better than them getting the illnesses themselves.

blibblobblub · 04/10/2015 14:06

We have a Sleepyhead, we've had it since birth though so can't comment on its effectiveness vs a normal mattress! DD is 19 wks and so far (touch wood) nights aren't too bad for us, it's the daytime naps that are a struggle. Majority of the time she will only nap on me, except maybe her very first short nap of the day. I try putting her down when she's clearly tired but she just gets giddy again and looks at me like I'm stupid! At the minute I just feed to sleep and let her doze on me, it's the only way.

FindingNormal · 04/10/2015 19:18

Yeah putting her done when she's sleepy just winds e up too. Have decided to stop feeling guilty about feeding her to sleep- she needs the comfort and I need my sanity.

Only reason was wondering about a sleepy head is that she wriggles and rolls a lot in her sleep which wakes her up. I think it's also her learning to get herself comfy though and don't want to stop her being able to sort herself out (although some of the positions she ends up in are a bit scary!)

We're home now and she's currently feeding and hopefully dropping off- wish me luck...I'm so frayed after the last 2 nights X

trilbydoll · 04/10/2015 19:28

DD2 is up hourly at the moment some nights she does the up-for-2-hours 3am party and even that doesn't give me any more than 90 minutes undisturbed.

We have a Sleepyhead. It's quite good but I spend most of the night with DD2 on my boob so it isn't getting much use! It was really good when she was tiny, I get the impression she's seen through it now.

blibblobblub · 04/10/2015 19:43

Finding how old is she? Mine is 19 weeks and has started to roll a bit but when she's in her Sleepyhead she stays still. I don't know if it's because it's not completely flat so she doesn't have much choice! I know odd times I've put her in her sidecar crib without the Sleepyhead there she does kind of roll and grab the bars. That's when she's awake though so not sure what she'd do asleep.

We've spent most of the afternoon snuggled on the sofa (my poor boobs are feeling it - she's getting a bit rough sometimes, trying to shove her fist in her mouth and feed at the same time!). Every time I tried to move her she cried so I just accepted we needed to hunker down for a few hours! Must have spent three hours maybe just feeding and her snoozing. Gave me a bit of time to catch up on some house admin on the laptop though!

FindingNormal · 04/10/2015 20:24

She's 19 weeks too blib. She started rolling about 5 weeks ago and when awake rolls obsessively- seriously will rarely tolerate being on her back now. She does roll in her sleep now she's in her cot and has room and was wondering if the sleepyhead would help wedge her still but as I said not sure this is best for her- if she's comfy on her tummy should I (shock horror, don't let the health visitor hear this) let her sleep on her tummy. She's got fab head control so is very unlikely to get stuck in a face plant.

Just boobed her to sleep and it took ages- think she's hungry in the evening because she's such a snacker during the day now as the world get more interesting. Babies eh? Crazy buggers.

FindingNormal · 04/10/2015 20:30

Fingers crossed we all have good nights and our little darlings (ahem) sleep for hours and hours and hours

blibblobblub · 04/10/2015 21:11

I've heard you can do a DIY Sleepyhead with a rolled up towel and a sheet - could be worth a try before you shell out the cash?

FindingNormal · 05/10/2015 08:12

Bit frightened of the DIY option blib given she'll probably smash her face into it- not sure how breathable it would be...

Saying this however we just had the best night in ages- feed at 1:30, some stirring and wriggling and trumping at 4, quick feed at 6 then only woke up at 8. Awesome!

FlangelaLansbury · 06/10/2015 04:44

Anyone else up? He's just had a lovely hour long sleep and now we are up again. Thanks, pal.

HoweyWoloWizard · 06/10/2015 09:36

My mate seems to have settled. He falls asleep at 8pm. Normally wakes at 11 needing a dummy reinstallation but not always. Feeds once at any time between 1.30am to 3am. Then wakes again 4 hours after that then usually gets up for the day at 7.30 regardless of when his last feed was.

Purpleboa · 07/10/2015 05:20

Can I

Purpleboa · 07/10/2015 05:23

Can I join? I thought that maybe we'd avoid this as my DD has always been a bad sleeper. But at 15 weeks it seems she's keen not to miss out! Bad night if troubled light sleep and many shush pats and PUPD. Really hoping it's a one off...I'm coming from a position of little sleep anyway so am worried about how I'm going to survive this...

FindingNormal · 07/10/2015 11:28

Welcome purple!! It's a long crazy road... X

Purpleboa · 08/10/2015 00:05

Anyone awake for hand holding? Tonight has been fun so far - never mind waking e ery hour, at one point it was every 5 minutes! Tonight's the first night without her swaddle me though, I figured sleep couldn't get much worse! (I was wrong).

feelinginthedark · 08/10/2015 00:21

Welcome purple! It's hell, and I say that as someone who has already had one non-sleeper (and onto no 2) 4-6 months are the worst! Lower your expectations, click into survival mode, and know that this too will pass! And it is amazing to see the leap in their development that results, all of a sudden DD2 (21 weeks now) is sitting up in her bumbo chair playing with toys, giggling and interacting with DD1. It's lovely!

FindingNormal · 08/10/2015 10:18

The development is amazing (although witnessed through very bleary eyes). She's started to fart herself awake the last couple of nights. Classy.

Purpleboa · 08/10/2015 10:39

Ha ha yes DD farts herself awake too! We should really be filming this for later use :) Ugh what a day. First thing in the morning, workmen turn up and start drilling outside our house (and I mean right outside, there's no path or access to the drive). Had no warning it was going to happen. DD didn't seem to mind but I do, so bang went aby chance of kip during the 8am nap. Then tried to go swimming only to be told the baby pools are closed. Argh! Now back at home. DD finally asleep after crying her wee heart out - she's fussing and won't feed, I think she's exhausted poor thing. I am trying to relax but the drilling and sheer exhaustion make that kinda challenging! Just had a good cry which helped. Going to walk to my mums group meet up which is an hour - think it will do us both good. How's everyone else today?

fluffikins · 08/10/2015 13:43

Can I step in? I think we've hit it. 16 weeks and keep waking every hour and then up for the day at 4am. The hourly wakings seem to be sorted if I hold her arms down and gently put pressyre on her chest, she eventually goes back to sleep but nothing I did got her back to sleep at 4am. She ended up spending an hour of cooing then crying and then finally napping at 5:40 - but we have to get up at 6am :(

FindingNormal · 08/10/2015 19:11

You know purple sometimes only a good cry will do.

Hiya fluff and welcome to crazy town!!

I dread this time of night- stuck in a darkened room feeding my girl. Should be a lovely bonding and calm time but I just feel tense and to be honest, a bit pissed off that this bit's all on me.

fluffikins · 08/10/2015 20:17

we've had one wake up so far but she went down again quite quickly.

I know what you mean about dreading it though!

FindingNormal · 08/10/2015 21:39

I've had to re-boob her asleep. She's down though and I hope she lasts longer than last night. Come on baby sleep for me!!!

Purpleboa · 09/10/2015 01:54

So true Finding, I hate that I'm dreading the nights so much.

Well, started off tonight optimistic 'maybe this will be the evening she finally sleeps!' but it's not been a great night. Wakings at 11 and now 2am. Really hoping we get a few decent hours after this but not hopeful. Bleurgh. How's everyone else faring?

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