Anyone on for another 4 month sleep regression hand-holding thread?!

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DD2 is 16 weeks and had been doing 7pm - woken up at 11.30ish for a feed - 5 or 6am. Happy days.

She is now waking up anytime between 7 and 10pm, going back down but reliably waking up for 2-3 hours between 3 and 6am. It is torture. I know this is a predictable phase that will pass, but christ it is miserable.

Waiting to see what tonight brings . I know there had been an active thread that seems to have died - hopefully meaning that all those babies are now sleeping beautifully

I haven't dream fed since I last posted as he's fell asleep at 9pm and I've just had to go asleep too rather than try to stay up and dream feed later on. To add insult to injury I have a streaming cold and can't sleep properly anyway and dh insisted on waking me to tell me his throat was tickly. I am desperate for this to end. DS's nap pattern seems to be changing too, he had 1 hour in the morning, 2 hours in the afternoon and about 30 mins later on and he fell asleep at 9 and has been up at 12 and 4 so far. Dh's wake up was at 2. I feel so ill.

Ugh so sorry for all the tired heads. I was up all night (it feels like) after removing DD2's cocoonababy - she was not happy! She just mooched around the cot banging her legs up and down on the mattress all night! Needless to say she is back in it for the moment! And I was already knackered from the previous night when DH woke me at midnight to ask if he should change DD1's nappy as it was damp, and I couldn't get back to sleep! . DD1's night time milk addiction is another thread altogether

His sleep is just all over the place now. I think I'm doing something wrong.

Joining in too if that's okay. DS is 16 weeks and we've been having a tough few nights. Down at 10, then up 11:30 til 12:45, then up at 3, half hour nap around 4:30 then up again, and we are now giving up and catching up on This Is England '88. And he doesn't really nap in the day so this is it now for the day.

Gin for us all.

The 3.30am wake up appears to be here to stay except this morning she was wide awake until I was finally able to rock her to sleep at 5.30am.

I had dream fed her at 11pm but I think I need to fully wake her up at this time to kind of reset her? Does anyone do this? (whispers) Its a GF thing but I'm desperate!

Of course I couldn't get back to sleep and my alarm went at 6.30 as I was going into work for a few hours. So. Tired.

This is horrendous! Not one for physical contact so no hand holding but can I get a nod of acknowledgement?

Oooh can I join your unhappy, sleep deprived gang? I thought I had broken my baby too after being in hospital with him and waking him to feed every 3 hours. Got permission to stop waking him in the night and was looking forward to sleep again but he has other ideas . It's only seeing this thread that's reminded me he's 16 weeks, so maybe that's it??

How long will this torture last, anyone know?

Hey guys can I join?
Ds2 sleep has been all over the place these past 3 weeks. He is 16 weeks. I'm thinking the sleep regression started early?
feeling he has a big till 8ish bf sleeps till 10.30 then we wake with a nappy change and another big feed then in cot at 11.30,not quite gf but it works for us. Although did do until started waking at 2,3,4,5 am 3 weeks ago

Only two night feeds last night! I'd like to think I'm getting somewhere but I realised the last couple of times he's slept well is after I've given him calpol for his teething. I don't know if it's making him tired or its relieving the pain and allowing him his sleep. It's so sad that they can't just tell us isn't it .

Hi haribo and rachey waves
What is gf that you mentioned?

Just dropping by to commiserate! My daughter is 19m now and (touch wood) sleeps well, but we were hit by the 4 month sleep regression and I still remember it. Sitting up from 1 till 4 night after night with a wide awake and giggling baby!

As a PP said, lots of my antenatal friends had babies who still slept well and it was hard not to think we were doing something wrong... But it's just the baby you get. And now, because we had to do sleep training at 7 months, I think we're getting better sleep than some of my friends who never had to sleep train.

So there is an end in sight, just go with it. I tried to not put the main light on so kept the dark time, but just watched some tv until she was ready to go back to sleep. It doesn't last forever and I found it more relaxing not to be trying to coax her back to sleep... Didn't work anyway!

I also found out that calpol tended to wake mine up after a few hours, so worth trying some nurofen or colour free paracetamol and see if that helps. I found nurofen better for teething anyway.

Would you just give calpol to make them sleep? Seems awful but need a sleep

Gf is Gina ford has written books on different aspects of babies ie sleep training, potty training ect. I haven't read them but I know of them.

Ds1 never sleep regressed and sleeps well, but ds2 is totally different u fact the opposite ??

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I know absolutely nothing about sleep training either. Having a baby is so much harder than I ever could have anticipated

I don't know how anyone manages without co-sleeping. My baby has never been able to sleep in his cot and still breastfeeda every 3 hours. However, up until 3 weeks ago he used to be able to feed twice a night in a half awake state and just drift off asleep (as would I -- never even properly woke up) but now at 19 weeks he wakes up twice a night, and needs to actually be rocked back to sleep (nursing laying down just won't do) and cries if you try to leave him to self settle. So yes, nights now involve two/three 20 minute rocking sessions.. and he naps only on me, so I just get comfy with my nursing pillow and Netflix and lay nurse him to nap.. He won't have it any other way (not even stroller)

Hi Rhonda, no I wouldn't give calpol just to make them sleep (didn't work for mine anyway), but if the sleep regression is coinciding with teething you might be using pain relief anyway.

I had a horrendous time from around 14 weeks, it has just (touch wood!) got better at around 27 weeks. Only things I think have made a difference are, I consciously get my ds to nap ie he never sleeps in the pram so I started rocking him putting him in the pram and pushing which kept him asleep for an hour at a time 3 x a day!! Whereas before it was more if he fell asleep feeding etc. at the peak of it he was awake every 1-1 1/2 hours but now is regularly doing 6:30-midnight and then through until 6am with sometimes another feed around 3am. Not sure if it's anything I have done or a combination of better day sleep, solids and ds moving more but hoping it's here to stay!!

Thanks zog. Before bed last night I gave ds calpol for his teeth and he slept 5 solid hours after that. Maybe it's teething pains waking him up. He woke at 2 then 5 and at 5 he was squealing crying as if in pain!!

Ds has been only waking twice a night all week and last night only woke once. he is now 17 weeks. That two weeks was super hard but I think we have finally got past the regression touches all the wood

How are we all doing?

Can I join in? I feel broken. My gorgeous girl who used to sleep so well has for the past 3 weeks been waking every hour. This has also coincided with her having a nasty cold and her 16week jabs. A few people have asked but haven't seen an answer...how long does this last- I'm going nuts and she get so upset at night it breaks my heart.

Everyone on this thread has disappeared! Looks like it's just me and you findingnormal

Ds had a lovely week of only 1-2 feeds per night. Now we seem to be back to a million. You were doing so well small dude he's 18 weeks this week.

I'm still lurking. We had only two feeds last night but I'm expecting that to be a temporary respite. Those 16 week jabs are awful, aren't they finding?

im here just not having a great time at the moment. ds2 very unsettled esp in the evening uncontrollable crying needing to be rocked to sleep...........heartbreaking tears. im at a huge loss of what to do, normally a good bf works but not this time. :(

Can't cope. Tonight I have been feeling so ill, I have a fever etc and just cannot catch any sleep. I am dying