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right extended bf'ders, your suggestions to bring about miracle sleeping baby pls

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FillyjonkthePumpkinEater · 23/10/2006 15:52

right, i give in

am not going to use controlled crying or similar but need to be sure I am not wantomly depriving myself of sleep

dd-15 months. wakes up hourly b/w 9 and 6. Between 3 and 6 is the worst as she demands constant feeding. If I get up with her, she says "no, bed" very firmly.

she is very lovely but right now, I am not.

thoughts?

failing that-when do they start sleeping through more of the night?

ps yesihaveasling

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FillyjonkthePumpkinEater · 23/10/2006 16:08

oh come on

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FillyjonkthePumpkinEater · 23/10/2006 16:33

oh ffs, I'll do it myself

Filly, you don't say whether she naps during the day?

and have you tried cranial osteopathy? That often works, IMO.

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hunkermunker · 23/10/2006 16:34

Oh, Filly

FWIW, I had 2.5 hours broken sleep last night because the boys played "wake-up-tag"

I don't think DS2 will ever sleep through.

hunkermunker · 23/10/2006 16:35

That wasn't helpful. But it was empathetic, I think (hope).

lulumama · 23/10/2006 16:36

filly...LOL......
are up hourly every night?
is she taking a feed or taking comfort?

at 15 months - is she waking due to hunger or habit ...of wanting to be with you..

grasping at straws as not b/f, but can't leave this unanswered!!

why not controlled crying , just of interest?

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FillyjonkthePumpkinEater · 23/10/2006 16:37

its shite, eh?

am pretty sure I am not meant to be operating heavy machinery in this state

wtf am I allowed to look after 2 kids

(social workers don't answer that pls)

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lulumama · 23/10/2006 16:37

x post iwht hunker

belgo · 23/10/2006 16:37

Empathy I can do. Actual advice on how to get your baby sleeping - sorry - I'm hopeless at that.

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FillyjonkthePumpkinEater · 23/10/2006 16:37

ah, no constrolled crying cos am wuss

bascially she is in the habit of waking and can only get back to sleep if she is fed

and am having crisis of confidence and also of sleep.

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tracyk · 23/10/2006 16:40

Can you not express and give from bottle? at 15mo she could hold her own bottle. I put a bottle of milk in ds bed every night - if he wakes - he just drinks it himself.

hunkermunker · 23/10/2006 16:40

Oh, Filly [sobs]

I know. I empathise totally. I tried putting him in the cot and patting/shushing last night (co-slept till he was 7mo, but he's too wriggly and I was sleeping on an inch of bed and doing my back in from feeding All Night). Didn't work. He settled a bit, then worked himself up into a frenzy and it was 5am and I'd only gone to bed at 2 (DS1 up with a temp of 39), then been awake again at 3 with DS2 and he still wasn't asleep again at 5.30, so I fed him.

Have now totally hijacked your thread. Sorry. I clearly have no advice for you either! Maybe we could swap babies for a bit?!

lulumama · 23/10/2006 16:41

weeeeeeelllll....if you know it's a habit...then you know it needs breaking

have to weigh up your woosiness against the lack of sleep / feeling crap all the time thing...and decide what you can live with

fwiw...controlled crying can work quickly....

15 months of broken sleep is a long time.....

hunkermunker · 23/10/2006 16:41

Not sure about Filly's DD, but I know that DS2 wouldn't entertain a bottle at night. It has to be my squashy sleep-deprived nork.

lulumama · 23/10/2006 16:43

eeeeek @ bottle in bed...!

sorry...i am a firm beleiver in self soothing to sleep....but have been very strict with sleep , from day 1...but had two babies sleeping through from weeks old.....

but...if it works for you then great..and an expressed bottle might be a really good compromise for carrying on b/f & getting some sleep!

whatever gets you throuhg the nights!

blueshoes · 23/10/2006 16:43

Hi Filly, my heart goes out to you. You probably won't like what I am going to say (no, not cc) but weaning dd off the breast worked for us. Dd's waking pattern was very much similar to your dd's and I was going mad.

She wasn't even feeding properly, just nib-nib-nibbling and crying if I tried to take her off.

From waking 3x an hour, she slept for 5 hours straight through almost immediately and quickly lengthened. I chose a nursing strike at 17 months to make my move ...

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FillyjonkthePumpkinEater · 23/10/2006 16:44

and my norks are soooo squishy these days

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FillyjonkthePumpkinEater · 23/10/2006 16:46

but even if I wanted to, how could I leave her to cry?

She would just get up and follow me, saying "milk, mummy"

I mean, I would actually have to physically restrain her.

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tracyk · 23/10/2006 16:46

I have a star gate on ds bedroom doorway.

hunkermunker · 23/10/2006 16:47

I'm not convinced DS2 is eating enough during the day that he can go through the night, so not really an option not to feed him in the night.

FWIW, Filly - and I can be a bit useful here - DS1 was bfed till he was nearly 17mo and he did used to sleep through the night without a feed - he woke up with horrendous temperatures which was what woke him up, but he rarely had a feed past about 10m in the night. He has always loved water from a beaker though, which helped. And DH used to get him back to sleep - no milk bar there!

Lact8HisLiverWithANiceChianti · 23/10/2006 16:47

Right this is probably not what you want to hear. It took DS1 til he was at school, yes school, not playgroup, school to actually sleep through. I had stopped breastfeeding by then tho

When DS2 was about 10 months, I'd been back in work for 3 months and that combined with no sleep had worn me down to the point of exhaustion. One night DP said Right I'm taking over.

And he did. He would go in and rock him but not talk to him other than to say Go to sleep.

Within a week he was sleeping for a full 12 hours a night!

DD is 10 motnhs now and had a phase recently of waking 2.30ish til about 5.30 and it was killing me. So Istarted giving her huge meals at tea time. straight in the bath and instead of the usual feed from me givbing her a bowl of weetabix instead. I thought there was no way she'd still be hungry after her mammoth tea but she hoovers the whole bowl up. She has another half hour playing, feed and then most nights is managing 12 hours. (Obv she won't tonight because I've said it on here )

I really sympathise with you, sleep deprivation is horrible.

I don't know if you've tried feeding her up but it's def worked for me.

Is there anyone who could take over in the night if you decided to go down that route?

hoxtonchick · 23/10/2006 16:48

i am pretty much in the same position filly. well, dd is 15 months, b-fed & doesn't sleep very bloody much. she starts off in her own bed & we co-sleep from when she wakes up. i am also anti-controlled crying. much empathy coming your way.

lulumama · 23/10/2006 16:48

`is she in your room ...if not you could close the door...and then go back to her....after a few minutes....

i suppose it is whether the upset you feel at leaving her to cry is worse than the sleep deprivation

if you know it is habit..and that she is crying because she wants you, not becasue she needs you or a breast feed....is it not bearable? or can you not contemplate it?

trying not to sound really harsh and mean,,,,

tracyk · 23/10/2006 16:50

I always found dh had much better success at getting ds back to sleep too.

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FillyjonkthePumpkinEater · 23/10/2006 16:50

dp could

would have to time it though

feel bad also as really, am only considering night weaning cos I've got 2 to look after. if I just had one, i'd probably do the whole nap when the baby does thing.

also-I have to drive 2 days a week, no choice, or become a depressed reculse, and I do not think it is wise right now.

am going to try the feeding her up thing. She loves weetabox.

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hunkermunker · 23/10/2006 16:51

Filly, I think I will start my own thread actually - had been meaning to. Will still pop in here to hug you though x x x

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