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Hello again all- may the sleepers continue sleeping, the new arrivals due or here get the idea very quickly and the rest of us see the light at the end of the tunnel!

Hi Scotty, I bought them directly from the gro company that make the original gro sleeping bags. Think they have a sale on at the mo . You might find some on eBay too. Or Mothercare do padded sleep suits - I've used those for travelling and early morning starts so they are handy for that too although I've always felt the DDs are a bit more comfy in a sleeping bag for regular use. Or JoJo do sleeping bags with arms as Attitude says.

Ha at Elph - so very true.... Nobody ever said that I would be facing three+ years without sleep. I might have reconsidered although my smug, judgy, pre-baby self would never have believed it of my babies which were going to be perfectly well behaved in all respect and who would never watch a minute's TV.

felkov I'm sure that Elph and Dreaming will be able to provide much more help, but is it a question of getting enough support so you aren't putting any strain on your neck and shoulder? What about a big memory foam pillow or something?

Thanks :) I'm definitely going to try to get her warmer tonight.

Elphaba Looks promising, thank you! i will definitely try tonight. might have to steal a few pillows from the spare bedroom too to get propped up enough.

Now I just have to convince DH to make some space in bed...still amazed he sleeps merrily through all my night time waking/feeding/nappy changes and usually i get greeted with a "so how was your night?" when his alarm goes off at 7am even if I've only just got DD to sleep after being up feeding for hours right next to him

Chocolate yes, its mostly that i can't really lay on my side without pain. I might have another look online but the memory foam pillows I've tried in the past have been pretty useless :-(

Is there any way of evicting DH, felkov? If you are going to try that feeding position with a view to feeding, it would be far safer if DH was elsewhere from a SIDS point of view. If a baby is going to share a bed, it should only be with a BFing mother.

Well I could steal DHs pillows instead and banish him to the spare room

Capital suggestion!

I should have originally said, 'try that feeding position with a view to CO-SLEEPING' in my previous post.

Sorry. I don't get much sleep.

Well I'm about to go to sleep now (yes I really go to bed this early, I have to maximise any possible moment DD might be sleeping to get kip myself)! Good luck for tonight everyone, hope the sleeping gods are good to us all!

Scotty, I'm right behind you... DS just fell asleep in my lap, the dog is fed and DH is out, so I may as well attempt to maximise sleep, too! The only problem is that I still have my bra on and I haven't brushed my teeth. Crumbs! Maybe on DS's first wake-up... Doubtless by 10pm. Good luck everyone!

Gah, bad night here as DS came down with a cold on top of jabs. Have been up most of the night with him, poor little guy. He can't bf properly either as his nose is blocked. Hope you all fared better. all round!

Morning everyone. Well I don't want to jinx things but having the heating on high and letting DD sleep on me resulted in more sleep... only 6 wake ups from 8pm to 8am and quickly back to sleep with boob easily available... better than the previous week of 9 of 10 crying wakings anyway.

Seriously full nappy this morning though

Eureka! We cracked BF'ing in bed last night. (DS has previously cried when I've tried to feed him lying down). But he cottoned on last night for the first time ever!!! I had to keep waking up to manage him/rearrange top/apply boob (and ease my wretched aching knee from lying on my right side too long) but we only got up once, from midnight-1:30am, then back down until 6:50am. Just being to stay mostly in bed when he woke made a big difference. Still tired but not wretched and glassy-eyed with crushing fatigue. Whew. Co-sleeping and feeding clearly the way forward...for now. had some chocolate and to celebrate this morning.

Felkov and Eden glad things went a little better last night

Attitude we had a pretty crap one too - obviously the DDs conferred before bedtime and decided it was DD1s turn... Maybe DD2 was tired after waking me up constantly?! She slept till 4.30 am with only one brief stir and resettled before I even got halfway down the landing. Then gave in after 15 minutes of trying to get her to settle and fed early at 4.45 and she went back down until 7. Ahhh that would have been a good night.

Sadly DD1 woke almost hourly until 3am and then after that refused to stay in her bed so ended up coming into ours. Think she was having strange dreams because she still woke several times with a loud cry and once threw herself across OH.

I'd be encouraged by the thought that DD2 can actually sleep for a decent stretch but she's done it before and only ever on nights when DD1 is up most of the night. Its a conspiracy I tell you!

Hello can I join in please? Ds is a week old today. We've been home from hospital 3 nights now and they've been chaos! Will have a look back at the thread but just saying hi first!

A week old Little Pink?! Oh my. You need to Google 'fourth trimester', not read this thread. You'll want to send him back!

Chocolate it must be awful when they can tag-team you. The chance of a good night is even rarer.

Have spent much of the morning wiping snot. Lovely

LittlePink have you joined the post-natal thread for Jan? You'll get lots of peer support there as everyone is going through the same thing. Unfortunately sleepless nights in the first few weeks are par for the course unlike at 12 months

And congratulations on your Ds

Well I must be a sucker for punishment to do it all over again! Got a 2.7 yr old dd and we had a long long time of dreadful sleep. She's sttn now and we've chosen to upset the apple cart with sleep and go for it again! He's gorgeous though so all worth it. He sleeps all day apart from waking for 2 hrly feeds but chooses 3-6 am to be his wakeful time! 3-6pm yes I can cope with that, 3-6am no!

He's so noisy at night he sounds like a little farmyard animal grunting, snorting and squeaking away! a very cute farmyard animal though haha. I wasn't saying that at 5am this morning after 2 hrs of no sleep for the second time that night. I was saying something on the lines of whats the matter with him I don't know what to do!!!

Yes I'm on that thread too.

LittlePink my DD2 was much the same. It was a bit of a shock after DD1 who spent most of the first 8 weeks asleep (and then clearly felt she'd done enough sleeping for the next couple of years). I thought I'd have a couple of weeks of having it fairly easy before the total sleeplessness kicked in... not so, she didn't sleep more than 20/30 minutes at a time for a couple of weeks, and then only on me/OH/in the sling/on whoever I could palm her off to for an hour to try and get my head down.

I think its at least 2/3 weeks before they start getting the hang of day/night. Have you got any help with your DD? Can you get some daytime sleep?

Attitude, after 6 weeks of constant colds with both DDs I've decided my baby invention is some sort of shoulder bog roll arrangement so you can just tear off the snotty bit and start again...

I've got dh until next week when he goes back to work then my mums coming for a few days. I had a cs so need a bit more help at the moment. Trying to get some naps in but every time I try to go he wakes up and cries!

Visualising bog roll shoulder arrangement . The trails of snot on your shoulder are one of the indignities of motherhood aren't they!

Chocolate, shoulder bog-roll is the way of the future! Or even a renewable, recirculating cloth you could kinda pull around your shoulder to get to a clean bit (for all the very earth-friendly, wildflower-bedecked mums on here)! I'm so 'landfill' by comparison!