The dreaded SLEEP REGRESSION support and solidarity thread!

[Tiredemma]

Here we are. Sleep deprived, emotional and craving all things sugary just to survive the day.

bah.

Hello all.

Not sure if this is for a particular age of sleep regression but my daughter is going through the particularly nasty 9 month regression as well as a nursing strike.

I'm so tired, grumpy and just feeling a bit helpless to be honest.

It's nice to know that I'm not the only one feeling this way though.

artemis dp does f all night times here. I get peace when cooking dinner & thats it! Oh & weekend mornings. But i 'let' him. He'd help if i asked at night i just prefer him not grumpy well rested!

gimme LOVE the name! Welcome x

High five Cindy!
If tonight is not a good sleep I am just going to give up now..naps yes, lots of big feeds today yes, tired baby in bed at 7 yes, all possible boxes ticked....
We shall see!!
For extra depressingness I only came across articles about the 8/9 month sleep regression earlier - erm excuse me??

Thank you. :)

Going to try and get her down in a minute. She's so restless when she is sleeping too.

It wont last long I hope

My DP is pretty good at other stuff, he cooks and does washing and can be persuaded to shove the Hoover round now and then. He is lovely with DD during the day. He just doesn't seem to think night waking is his responsibility, and is absolutely vilely bad-tempered when tired. Getting on with it just feels like the path of least resistance, though I do sometimes resent it and am sure the faint odour of burning martyr I waft his way winds him up too.

Half an hour ago DD woke up, projectile vomited sour milk into my face then cried to go back on the boob. I do not understand babies At All.

Woo hoo Cindy. Well done miniCindy.

Hello Gimmie. Oh dear, another bloody regression. Our 4 month one started at 14 weeks and is still here 11 weeks later.

How are you dealing with the nursing strike? My DD2 is on more of a nursing binge at the moment!

Missed a load of posts! Gimme great name. 9 month regression though? WHAT?!

Cindy woo hoo! Let me guess - you did nothing different at all?

soup I'm coping a bit badly if I'm honest. It's made me a bit upset. Although she is mixed fed she solely takes the breast at night time and first thing in the morning, so it's pretty upsetting when she doesn't want to take it. I'm going to perservere though and hopefully things will improve soon.

Artemis Oh yes. Apparently there is one at 12 months and 18 months too or at least there can be. But the most common are the 4 and 9 month ones.

Gimme oh good. Lots to look forward to then... At this rate I think our 4 (then 5, now almost 6) month regression is going to merge seamlessly into the 9 and if that happens I might not live to see the next one DP definitely won't. I've never heard of nursing strikes, sounds really upsetting, hope it doesn't last.

Welcome gimme

Well what a night this is turning out to be. Ds did an hour then woke crying hysterically and couldn't stop even with me holding him & offering boob. Nothing consoling him, he wants me in bed next to him, nipple in his mouth preferrably.

Do they just 'get over' the regression? What happens if you don't deal with negative sleep associations at this point? Will I be stuck with co sleeping and feeding to sleep for the foreseeable? I'm feeling very guilty as I've taught him these associations in the process of making my life easier and now he's suffering and getting upset because I want them to stop.

Sorry for self indulgent pity post

Gosh ladies - I have missed a lot of posts!! Went to granny's who did the night shift(s)!!
Dh and I were awake a lot of the night in our own room, wondering why we now have a sleep issue too. Do we need to co sleep now???!

Soup - love that somebody else dresses dc in pramsuits etc... Dd does look more cosy in them and they seem to help with daytime naps too.

Cakeis (I think) - you latest, much better, schedule is what our dd had managed since I cut it out after seeing paediatrician. Dd is now mixed fed from prescription formula called nutramigen 1 and less from me (I'm now dairy and soya free). Paediatrician pointed out that 50% of people allergic to dairy are also allergic to soya. Diet is a complete pain but I was desperate and the change has been astonishing. I know most mums would say 2/3 wake ups a night is a bad night, but for us it is truely miraculous.
We didn't notice the beginning of the 4 month regression because there was literally nothing to regress from!!!
The first night after new diet began was the first night of dad's life she went into her own bed, awake, and stayed there until she fell asleep.
Unfortunately, dd does seem to still associate bf with her dark times and is basically on nursing strike most of the time. I will preserve until weaning though and just finish each feed with this prescription formula which is magical stuff. Still very sad about my 'failure' to ebf.
bloody minded
Sweet dreams all. X

I can't answer your question cakebaby but feeling the same here. I've failed to get DD down and have had enough. DP has taken her downstairs where she is asleep next to him on the couch, and our carefully planned bedtime routine has gone to shit for another night. We do what we have to do to get her to sleep tonight and in the process reinforce all the habits we want to break

Not dad's life lol, dds life!!

Re cosleeping nightmare
One trick I attempted was to wait until dd had fallen asleep in our king size and then sneak next door to sleep with my dh in the small double in the spare room.
Hillarious but necessary.

Cross posted flopsy. Glad your new diet regime is making a difference and good luck with the BFing. I definitely have a sleep problem myself now! Have the bed to myself but oh the irony, can't sleep so back on mn for now...

Evening all - from my bed, feeding DD2! At least she slept for 3 hours. DH still out so couldn't even attempt a quick cuddle with him to see if she'd settle without boob. If she sees me there is no chance of not feeding back to sleep.

I do worry that I will be feeding at night and co-sleeping well into the future, but I'm not sure that there is any other way that doesn't involve lots of tears and snotters, mostly mine! I'm also the most unlikely earth mother type, but kind of understand where DD2 is coming from. If I was a baby I'd want to be snuggled up all night with my mum, and with food on tap too. She's also doing that horrible development thing of working out she is a separate entity - lots of yelling when ever I left the room she was in today.

Not sure I will ever co-sleep with DH again! Love having our king size all to myself, when DDs not in it, and not being kept awake by his bloody snoring.

artemis yup...not a thing different! Lets see if its a one-off
gimme i've been thru a nursing strike. Its awful & yr doing a wonderful job. Dont worry
cakebaby self indulgent pity posts are what we're here for my dear! Itll be one of us tomorrow. Every mum does what she can to get by. Yr doing bothing wrong.

I was with 5 other mums today...all same age or older kids...not one had heard of nor been through a sleep regression bitches lucky things. Have heard if u go thru 1, may not go thru another as bad (straw clutching)

Oh Artemis... I feel you.
It's like my body has relearnt to sleep - with a permanently dead arm in a cement-fixed position. Now I have the freedom to move a centimetre, the body canny handle it. Dh and I woke at exactly the same points and checked in with each other: 2am, 3.30am 5am. All whilst dd slept soundly in granny's room. We are scarred I tell you.

Just out of interest, when was the last time anyone remembers sleeping for an 8 hour block?
By the end of pregnancy I was toilet tripping maybe 4 or 5 times a night... So maybe a year ago? Or longer?!
And I suppose that's it for 20 odd years now.
How has our race survived again?
Congratulations Cindy on your MASSIVE achievement tonight. Let it be the start if your retiring from the regression thread. Until 9 months. Xxx

Cindy I've got 2 other dc's and had never heard of sleep regression until now. Dc1 was horrid sleeper until age 1 when I had to do sleep training as just couldn't handle it anymore - so nothing to regress from!
Dc2 slept 8-8 straight through from 12 weeks and never deterred from that. I will let you guess which one was ff!

Last time I slept for 8 hours when my parents have had DD for the night.

She used to go 4-6 hours of sleep now it's every 2 hours waking crying and even when asleep very restless.

2 weeks down ? To go...

Last 8 hour sleep was probably Sept 2012... I had dreadful insomnia all the way through pg and before that IVF which royally screwed with my sleep patterns. I used to take sleep for granted. Not any more...

Tonight is awful. DD will not be put down anywhere without screaming. I can't even roll her onto the mattress next to me while cuddling her. Please DD, cut me a break. All the people I know in RL have DCs the same age who sleep through 12 hours in their own rooms and go down without a peep, and have never heard of regressions. Had an unhelpful discussion with my mother who insists I should be giving her baby rice in the evening to fill her up because breast milk is not 'strong' enough any more. Someone tell me this is bollocks.

Its vollocks! My mam says same. Uts a generational thing.

Bollocks even. Asked hv & says not waking from hunger & food this early can increase allergy risk.

My mum also told me she used something to train me to sleep. Turns out its an anti histamine with sleep drug in it!

It's complete bollocks Artemis.

Hope you got some sleep eventually. We are back to waking every 90 minutes.

I so need 8 hours sleep. I had pregnancy insomnia too and then constant wake ups for the loo. Reckon my last 8 hour stretch would be sometime in early 2013.

Looked in mirror this morning and the dark circles are ever increasing.

Oh artemis poor you! :(
soupmaker us too. 90 minutes! But I consider it a success as managed to feed every 3 hours & settle the other wake ups with no picking up.

Thanks everyone...am well chuffed but holding breath in case it was one off. Made not one bit of difference to wake ups! Feels like we may be getting there though ("?!)

Every 90 mins here after 9.30, sometimes less than that. Fed every single time which she wanted, like a bottomless pit!
So all the stuff re good naps, daytime good feeds etc is all bollocks as we ticked all those boxes yesterday.
And when I say we, I mean me and dd, as all DH added to this was at 4am when he declared her a 'nightmare' and rolled over..