The dreaded SLEEP REGRESSION support and solidarity thread!

[Tiredemma]

Here we are. Sleep deprived, emotional and craving all things sugary just to survive the day.

bah.

Sorry took ages to type and cross-posted Boo
Hope your LO has settled now.

Hope everyone is ok today and managed some sleep last night. Just wanted to say thanks for the reassurance about the third vacs, Ds did do quite a shout but was fine after. Also think we are coming to the end of his cold (though I'm full if it), so last night was exceptionally good. He went down at 8 with minimum fuss, had an early dream feed at 9.30 so we could go to bed, up at 2.40, very quick feed and back to sleep by 3, up for the day at 6! I'm happy with that! He's just having his morning nap now, still a nightmare getting him to nap, we can't manage to do it unless we give him endless rocking in his pram and blast white noise while he fights and gets upset, I feel like crap because I think it's me missing his sleepy window. I do hold him and rock him sometimes too but he is v big, strong and heavy!

Our night was pretty similar to normal apart from the 9pm waking which I decided to use as an opportunity to get him to go to sleep in his cot instead of the usual being put in asleep again made no difference up every two hours- madness!!! Yet I've just put him in for his morning nap awake & he has gone to sleep by himself with minimal fuss my conclusion is my ds is a conundrum!!!

We had 9.30 wailing.
0130 wailing
0330 wailing
0530 wailing
0730 wailing up for the day.

I have to convince myself that this is a mix of teething and a cold (very snuffly). If I allow myself to even think for a moment that we may be bordering into DS2 similarities and literal insomnia then I fear I may have a breakdown.

and sadly we are approaching 1000 posts. \

I had hoped by the 1000th post we would all have nailed this!!

What are roughly people's daytime routines? I've put ds down for his nap yesterday he slept for over an hour & a half at this nap would you say this is too long?? He then had another hour & a half at lunchtime but didn't sleep again til bedtime - 6.50??

We had hourly wakings. I'm so shattered, I'm worried I'm going to get PND at this rate (it's been 5 months of hourly wakings)

Oops sent too soon - tired I feel your pain the longer it goes on for the more you worry this is their some sort of normal??? Did you skip the evening banana?? What does your DP suggest??

Boo- DP has gone unusually quiet.......

the banana remains.....but clearly its 'sedative' benefits are questionable.

Day routine-

DD naps from about 9.30/9.45 until around 11am.

She will then have another nap (about an hour) at around 2pm/2.30pm

She is ALWAYS asleep by 6.50pm

So my routine isn't too out of kilter!! Mystery, just reassure yourself tired that you know she can do it at approaching 6months my ds has yet to go longer than 4hours in a stretch!! Exhausted.com!

Boo my DS is also a little conundrum. No two nights are the same at the moment!

Last night he was settled before 8 and didn't wake til about 3.45. DP had fallen asleep on the sofa so he got up and gave him a bottle, got him settled again by 4.30 and he then woke at 6.30. I brought him into bed with me to feed and we dozed til 7.45. The only downside is I woke up loads, and was fully awake from 2.30 til about 4 out of habit i guess, but it counts as a good night baby wise. We did nothing differently that I can think of, it just happened.

Ds is however full of teething misery this morning. I think it's reaching a peak. I've given him gel, granules and calpol. He was desperate for his nap but until I shoved my boob in his mouth he was wailing inconsolably. I'm just letting him nap on me this time, it's not like i have to be anywhere urgently.

Tired the snufflyness could be teething related? My DS is very mucousy at the moment. Oh, he's just woken and is crying again, must dash!

My poor, poor baby has the most awful nappy rash, that came on suddenly after what must have been a really acidic teething poo this morning

Now of course every time he poos (still frequently, due to the teething) he's beside himself as we wipe him clean.

He had two naps on me today and a long one (by his standards) in the pushchair. Any attempt to put him in his cot was met by loud wailing. In this type of situation I'm just going to do what works to get him to sleep. I've no idea how tonight will be. Depends on whether/how often he poos I suppose...

Oh noisy poor little man I hate it when they have anything like I recommend as much time as he can bare with his nappy off laid out on a towel (in case he wee's etc) letting the air get it & a very thin coat of sudocrem when he does have a nappy on!!! I hope you have a good night with him!

My ds has been good today was exhausted by bedtime as had been awake since 1.45 & wouldn't go back off for a quick/ power/ teatime nap so as usual fell asleep having his bedtime bottle! I'm expecting to be up every couple of hours from 10ish as usual anything less will be a bonus!

Get some Bepanthen if you can. Brilliant for nappy rash- much better than Sudocreme as its a barrier cream AND healing cream

Oh Noisy I hope it heals soon. I've no first hand experience of nappy rash yet, but my HV and more experienced mums I know swear by mertanium (quite possibly spelt wrong,sorry). Hv told me that to remove it you need to use cotton wool and olive or grape seed oil, but it's supposed to be the cats pyjamas of nappy rash treatments.

Just to add to tireds tip re bepanthen - metanium is also good, helps after a couple of applications.
I've been lurking but not posting for a while, not much to report other than still rubbish sleeping. Sometimes I get 3 hourly wakings and it seems better, but then the next night it's less than 2 hours. So I'm still just waiting it out, am 12 weeks in to sleep regression now..

Oh dear, good to know were not alone in this though I guess ladies! Although in a way I wish I could leave
This bloody thread & report we've cracked it! Ds is already awake tonight the earlier the first waking usually the worse the night is going to be & he's been awake a while!!!! Wish there was something we could do that was guaranteed to work then I bet we would all do it! I'm now blaming DP as think ds is just generally stubborn & he must get it from his dad, I'm assembling his jumperoo tomo in the hope it might tire him out more?? Are you all sleeping your lo's on their backs as per the advice? I've been putting ds on his front as it's appeared to be the only way he will settle however tonight he is having none of it so I've put him down on his back! DP is working late & I'm so tired I really don't know what to do I could just feed him to sleep I guess but as that only exacerbates the whole problem with his sleeping I'm reluctant to

Hi all

Cakeis I was really hoping things had got better for you... Strange how quickly being awake half the night starts to become normal. We are getting towards the 12 week mark too.

Noisy sounds like your little man has been through it lately. How was he last night? We are a few weeks into weaning and are getting a lot more dirty nappies, just much smaller amounts (when EBF DD was good at saving it all up for days then letting rip with a big explosion, so this is a big improvement!) I have stopped giving her solids at tea time as I'm sure it makes her sleep worse, she gets very windy. She has fruit in the morning and puréed veg at lunchtime. I don't know when we are supposed to move to 3 meals but taking it slowly, their digestive systems are still really immature so I guess it will take time to adjust.

Boo how did you get on last night? did you feed to sleep? I still put DD on her back, she can't roll so easily in the sleeping bag but if I put her down without one for a daytime nap she rolls all over the place, gets her legs caught in cot bars etc then gets angry and wails, so no doubt that will be the next thing waking her when she figures how to roll with the bag on!

We've had a couple of awful nights here. Up every 2 hours over the weekend, every 2 hours last night and Tuesday night she was up every hour, sometimes waking after 10 or 15 mins with crying, the whole works. There's nothing obvious troubling her - not teething, she's over her cold, clean nappy, winded, room temp is fine, etc. I just don't understand it. Can babies have insomnia? Last night I just fed her every time she woke as the easiest route back to sleep but she surely doesn't need 3 or 4 feeds a night when she's having regular BFs and solids during the day.

Unsurprisingly I feel rough. The last two months have aged me 5 years and I feel like a totally rubbish mum. Everywhere I go I'm surrounded by cheerful women with peacefully napping babies. The other night in one of my fitful periods of broken sleep I dreamed that Gina Ford was trying to stab me with a screwdriver and push me off a cliff. What does this mean?!

Hello all. Another cake popping back, been lurking but not posting. Can't believe this thread is still going strong, it's great to have support isn't it?! Also can't believe that others are posting new threads about crap sleep at 4 months ish, they could join here and not feel so confused and crappy. I've tried to steer a few in this direction

We're still co sleeping, ds started weaning and has slept better on a few nights with a dream feed at 10 then slept til 4 ish, feed then til 7 ish. Other nights very unsettled and feeding on and off every few hours again.
I think co sleeping is masking a lot of wakings too but it needs to stop by June so it's cot time next week then the fun will really begin!

I've concluded that you get what you're given when it comes to sleeping babies! Some sleep, some don't and there's little you can do to change it easily. You can't MAKE them sleep....chloroform teddy bear anyone? joking

and all round

artemis ROAR at GF with a screwdriver!

Morning all. Ds's bum is slightly better and certainly not hurting him as much but for the love of God he is pooing so frequently!! We've had 5 already today if you count the one at 4.30 am. We co-slept last night from about 9.30 as he was so out of sorts and I wanted to be able to change him as soon as he pooed. It wasn't the most restful night for me as i struggled to get comfortable, but ds was generally quite settled and only fed at 1,4 and 7.

Sorry had to stop posting quickly before to do a nappy change! I'm going to speak to a HV today just to check that this extreme output is down to teething.

Lol @ the Gina Ford dream, must be symbolic!

Ladies, what's the general consensus re weaning - had it helped, made no difference or made things worse? Am starting next week

cake- Weaning has made no significant dent on DD's sleeping to be honest. DP felt that his introduction of 'night time banana' (please see earlier posts for further info on this!!) gave some 'sedative' effect- and to be honest, for a few days she did sleep through, but this was shortlived and I have been up and down the past few nights - BUT its through teething for sure.