The dreaded SLEEP REGRESSION support and solidarity thread!

[Tiredemma]

Here we are. Sleep deprived, emotional and craving all things sugary just to survive the day.

bah.

cakebaby similar thing here. I couldn't get her settled after an hour of feeding, rocking etc, DP had her spark out in 5 mins flat. Except she only slept an hour before waking and crying inconsolably. Smug DP goes up to settle her but she's not having it. Cried and cried. Eventually I couldn't take it and went in to pick her up and she ended up back on boob as the only way I could calm her down. DP mightily pissed off because I have 'given in'. We had always agreed not to let her cry. He was next to her shushing and patting etc but it wasn't working, she was screaming her head off and I just can't cope with listening to her, it makes me feel sick and like crying myself. So DP now thinks we should just leave her to cry by herself which is a big change and I don't want to do it at 5 months old, if ever. She eventually settled but has woken again after another 2 hours to more screaming and is on boob again after my other attempts to settle her failed. I don't even know where DP is, he hasn't come to bed and didn't come in when she was crying so presumably asleep on either sofa or in spare room. FFS. I know I am reinforcing behaviour I don't want by feeding to sleep all the time but I don't know what the hell else to do.

Cindy that sounds like a lot of milk to me but because DD has never been willing to take a bottle I don't know how much milk she would usually take. One of the stresses with feeding to sleep is I don't know if she actually is hungry. I don't think she should be hungry 2 hours after a feed and she goes longer during the day but it's possible she might be. Did your dd go back to sleep after the second bottle?

artemis yes back to sleep after second bottle. Shes been settling well lately but awake 2 hrs later! Drank from boob & lasted 3 hours till next wake up. So thats not the magical cure!

artemis yes back to sleep after second bottle. Shes been settling well lately but awake 2 hrs later! Drank from boob & lasted 3 hours till next wake up. So thats not the magical cure!

artemis yes back to sleep after second bottle. Shes been settling well lately but awake 2 hrs later! Drank from boob & lasted 3 hours till next wake up. So thats not the magical cure!

Godd

Goddam stupid phone!

Morning all. Another night of seeing every hour from 11. Although DD2 did go to sleep at 6 as she'd had rubbish sleep all day due to being out and about.

Bizarrely she slept really well the night before, only one wake up. Needless to say I was awake awaiting her demanding boob! The only thing I did differently was to give her some gripe water before her bedtime feed.

I can't stand listening to crying either and at 5 months old they are so wee.

I know that part of this is just comfort, not hunger, but thank goodness I'm still BF because with DD1 I stopped at 4 months and still had all the wake ups but had to get out of bed to replace her damn dummy, which usually was under the cot covered in fluff!

IME bottle feeding doesn't solve the wake ups.

soupmaker i found that out! I more wanted to see how much she was drinking cause if she was taking the piss i'd feel better about trying to settle & not feeding. Bollocks to that!

everyone ive come up with a genious idea...all hotels should have one. Along with a standard room, deluxe room, suite...there should be a parents room. Off this room would be a sound proof room with a car seat simultor in it. Parents could put their baby in it & sleep in a lovely big kindsize bed ehile baby sleeps in the 'car'!!! There would be a gentle alarm to wake you when baby woke up.

Genious!

....or is that sleep deprivation talking?

We were 2 x hourly then 3,4,5,awake :(

Morning all
9.30, 12, 2, 4, 5, 6 up at 7 here - fed every single time..
I contacted the ABM the other day by email and described her goings on and they suggested she's doing something called reverse cycling which is basically daytime feeding patterns (filling up) at night and what we would call nighttime patterns - ie 5 hours between feeds - in the day.
Recommended daytime feeds in quiet room with no distractions.
Same as previous poster we had one night last week with only 1 wake up, and I know that was a day when we didn't go out except for a walk and age definetly fed more in that daytime.
Also don't know why I keep saying 'we' had one wake up when it's me that does 100% of this!

Morning.... Co slept again from 2200, fed at 0030, 3, 4, 545 up at 7 so better than waking 20 mins after an hours settling.

I still had a cream cake before 10am.

Lol @ pre 10am cream cake I would call it a nourishing breakfast!

{orders rod from cakebaby re also co sleeping, feeding to sleep etc etc}

Hello I'm mum to a 2yrold DD and 4month old. I've been reading this thread last couple of nights and wanted to say thanks to you ladies for making me feel sane! We are currently making a rod for our own backs? co sleeping with the baby having only just got the older one to sleep through more regularly and last night I think the little one started feeding about 20 times! She's getting far too used to snacking whenever as I've given up trying to put her back in the bassinette after feeding her as it only lasts about 10 minutes before I have to get her up and start over!!!! Anyway it's a new day.. Who knows I may have made some resolutions by bedtime tonight!?!

Afternoon all,

Had another night of every hour awakings. I'm wondering now whether it may be related to his posterior tongue tie which I know has re-attached. Any ideas?

Ds (4 months and 3 weeks) sleep has completely gone to pot. He wakes between every 1-3 hours. Naps are rare. Up until a month ago he would slerp 5-6 hour stretches.

He refuses to sleep anywhere bar his too small mosrs as well. Any suggestions on getting him out of the moses and into his cot?

cakeismymaster thanks for that...it could expkain us too!

I really dont think we're in regression any more. Im torn between accepting this is how things are & to relax and trying to fix it! I dont know.

Welcome flyaway & angeleyes!

Hi Flyaway. This will probably sound bonkers but try a few nights with him in the Moses basket in the cot. Then after that shove a couple of muslins cloths down your front for an hour or so before bedtime and put them on top of the cot sheet under his head. If you are using a flat sheet or pillow case in the Moses basket you could use them too for the first few nights in the cot. Just gives them something familiar.

It might just work.

CakeIs I don't think we are in reverse cycling as DD2 feeds every 2-3 hours during the day. I think it's just habit and the way she is. She can self settle for naps and even during naps too, so she could do it at night too if she really wanted! I really don't expect 12 hours straight through but would like at least 3-4 hour stretches after 10pm.

I believe some babies 4 month sleep regressions can be over in a week or so but others take months. Of course the teething will start soon too!

Teething already here.. My dd isn't that interested in feeding during the day, I'm literally imposing bf's on her..whereas at night she is bf's biggest fan!

We had wake-ups every 2-3 hours last night for 1.5 hours each time with screaming every time I tried to put her down. I don't know where this screaming has come from. She's never been a screamy baby, doesn't cry during the day and never used to cry at night. It seems to be getting worse. She's quite happy laid down during the daytime so I don't think it's likely to be reflux. It's just when we try to put her down on the bed. Eventually DP took her downstairs at 5am. She went from screaming blue murder to happily asleep next to him on some cushions on the couch while he watched a film. It's baffling. Shame couch sleeping is not a viable solution!

Cindy I want a room in that hotel! I don't know either whether this is still sleep regression or just the new normal. cakeis what's the ABM? Useful info, I'll try feeding more during the day, DD doesn't seem to feed as much during the day as she used to as she's too interested in whatever is going on. I don't know if I should start weaning. We had planned to wait until 26 weeks (she's 23 now) and I don't imagine the small amounts of food she'll be having at first will make any difference but maybe...

Just read this... Don't know where I picked it up from, elsewhere on mn probably, but it is interesting from a BF point of view... www.naturalchild.org/guest/claire_niala.html

A helpful HV reminded me that feeding on demand works both ways! DD2 would happily go without boob for 4 hours during the day but I offer her boob no less than every 3 hours, and in fact anytime she's a bit cranky.

We are teething too, but thankfully just at the slabbering and shoving hands in mouth stage at the moment.

I use the Boots teething powders which definitely seems to calm any cranky teething behaviour. It may all be placebo though and in fact it's just boob that calms!

Artemis, weaning made bugger all difference with my DD1. Well, made me even more knackered as there was more cleaning up to be done! I'm holding out to 26 weeks - means no sterilising and a much longer list of foods for them to try.

Artemis the ABM is association of breastfeeding mothers, found the link on the bfn website. To be fair most of what they told me I had already read on kellymom anyway.

artemis my ds feeding has always been erratic. I was told to feed more during the day when he was12 wks and waking hourly at night. I did that and he got used to feeding more frequently, carrying it over through the night too. I was then told to space feeds out which I did but then he had a growth spurt and that went out the window. Back to being advised to stretch out feeds again but I think he's filling up at night now. Can't win with these babies!
Oh and my ds has learned how to shriek and scream this weekend. And DH is on nights trying to get some kip. Fat chance!

Welc

Fucking phone patience long gone

Welcome angeleyes and flyaway