The dreaded SLEEP REGRESSION support and solidarity thread!

[Tiredemma]

Here we are. Sleep deprived, emotional and craving all things sugary just to survive the day.

bah.

Hi all,

Well it was 10 wakes for us last night, down 6 from the night before so that's good. Although sleep deprived husband has had a terrible day at work, put petrol in a disel car and is still not home! I think he deserves a night in the spare room!

I don't really understand what's good in the world of napping either Marushka Ds does 2 x 40min naps a day. Is it a good idea to encourage longer naps? Would that just mean even less sleep at night? Sorry no helpful suggestions just wondering.

Also has anyone else noticed insane sleep pattern coming at the same time as baby sleeping on their side. I don't know if its connected but he refuses to stay on his back now.

So much guess work in sleep reasoning. I wish we all had the answers we need. Hope you have good nights xx

Alex, my LO sleeps on his stomach, sleeps much better that way. And I agree, I'm playing a guessing game too. No idea what really is causing the wake ups.

4x last night.

I stopped counting at 7 last night

4 for me too. Second night in a row. Took a good hour and half to settle but instead of picking her up I shushed her & eventually worked.
Currently sitting beside swing been shushing for 15 mins but determined to crack this napping thing this week!

4 for me too

4 for me too. Second night in a row. Took a good hour and half to settle but instead of picking her up I shushed her & eventually worked.
Currently sitting beside swing been shushing for 15 mins but determined to crack this napping thing this week!

I've read its because they are thinking too much...practising new things in their minds. Also different at different stages i.e. 4 months is because their sleep pattern is changing & they dont know how to deal with it.

Re naps mine ranges from 3 x good 2 hrs to 2 x 40 mins & seems to not make a difference to our nights. Having said that, every baby is different & most of all, unpredictable!!!

Didnt crack naps in the house today. Cue a drive in the car!

Marushka - dd is 19 weeks. Naps exactly the same. Usually every 2 hours and btwn 15 and 45 mins long. Occasional 2 hour ones like today . No apparent effect on night.

We let dgps do sat night and, typically, in strange house with noisy dogs, she had the best night of her life. No co sleeping needed (first time in her life!) and only two feeds night feeds. We are gobsmacked. Either they lied to make us feel better, or the dairy free diet is so far working wonders. Hoping trend will continue.

flopsy, glad it went well with the gps. My LO also has confirmed CMPA, and paedetrician told me not to stop having cows milk. But from experimenting I think it is making a difference to how he feels - that is me not having cows milk. So i think I'm going to stop it for now, raw milk but continue having it in other things.

Cakebaby, poor you, I feel the pain. Is your LO teething/growth spurt or any other reason?

indigo God knows wtf is going on. Doing really well before xmas, just 2 wakings for feeds & off again. 3 week d&v virus, co sleeping, back to feeding to sleep after 5+ nappy/clothing/bedding changes a night constant feeding to ward off dehydration, plus turning 4 months has fucked it all up. Trying to put a stop to feeding to sleep again. Total PITA. Gaaahhhhh!!!!!

Indigo - I was on low dairy before as it has always given me eczema but I have never had the balls to cut it 100%. The Peadeatrician said I would need to cut it absolutely out if it was the reason to see any difference. It could be a might mighty councidence but since the instruction on Thursday, dd has gone from waking an uncountable ludicrous amount of wakeups (15-20?) - being awake more than asleep for almost five months, to 2-3 wake ups in the last 3 nights. Dh and I are trying not to be overjoyed in case it's a 'blip' and I'm sure as soon as teething occurs, dh will be back in the spare room and dd will be back in with me!!

DD went to bed at 6.45pm last night.

woke at 3.30- fed/changed back down by 4am

back to sleep until 7am

Wow tired that's brilliant! We're always looking for a sub plot though aren't we?! Little buggers keeping us guessing. I've stopped counting wake ups now!

Oh and flopsy too! Amazing!

Looks like the 'cake' posters had the worst luck last night..! I stopped counting after 4 wake ups by 1am soooo tired again today - longest stretch she slept was 7.20 till 10am! Typical!

Tired and Flopsy - that's great! I'm so jealous!
About 4 wake ups before midnight for us and probably about 4 at night (like Cakebaby I stopped counting!). I stupidly ate some English muffins which contained soya flour (didn't even know something like that existed!) and sure enough DD's poos are different so her tummy must have been upset. Don't think it affected sleep though!
I'm off to visit my parents tomorrow and really stressing out about the whole trip, although the plane journey is only 1 hr 45 mins I'll pretty much spend the whole day traveling so please keep fingers crossed for us (are three changes of clothes enough?! :D

flopsy and indigo my LO has suspected CMPA (i got told they couldn't test though till on solids!) and has been on prescription formula since about 8 weeks. He was on part breast milk until 6 weeks and the 2 weeks of formula only were horrendous. We saw an improvement after a few days on the CMPA formula but it did take several weeks for his tummy to recover from the exposure to milk protein so it took a while to see a full effect. Fingers crossed you both will have much more settled babies now you have this diagnosis.

Making that change has made our lives so much easier, until weaning that is as in finding it hard to get advice on what to do about dairy aside from 'dont give him any'.

My DSIL sent me this-
www.amazon.co.uk/Prince-Lionheart-Slumber-Bear-Cream/dp/B000L3ISWI

it arrived today. DD is currently in a blissful sleep listening to mock sounds from 'inside the womb'

www.amazon.co.uk/Prince-Lionheart-Slumber-Bear-Cream/dp/B000L3ISWI

Thank you all...here's to hoping it's some kind of solution. Asleep again tonight with no crying at 7.30pm. Still asleep. For us = new baby xx

I'm so happy to have found this thread! My DD has regressed to being a newborn. She is 14 weeks old and for the past week is waking every two hours from about midnight but that's after waking every half an hour from 8pm. Will only fall asleep while being nursed or rocked. she was starting to do 6/7 hour stretches at Christmas but this last week has been awful. She'll only nap in my arms so no peace to get anything done. Hates her pram and a sling so can't even take her out in those. She's the only baby that cries at the groups I take her too. She can be so happy and smiley and then the angriest, grumpiest baby ever. No reflux issues although she has had a cold which has now pretty much gone. She has never been a good sleeper but this week has been really crap. Getting so fed up - I'm grinding my teeth in my sleep due to stress.

Oh ladies I really feel for you. DS starting sleeping through at 5 weeks (going for 8 hours+) I was feeling pretty smug then at 12 weeks he refused to sleep longer than a few hours and also refused any sort of day time nap. This carried on till he was 4.5 months then the health visitor gave me some advice 'it's ok to let your baby cry'. As long as he has enough milk in him he will sleep, he just needs to learn to get himself back off to sleep.
We tried the controlled crying technique starting with the day time naps then upping to the night time sleep. After maybe 5 days he was sleeping up to 10 hours at night and having 3 good naps a day. He cries less and less when we take him to bed and barely stirs of a night time.
I know some people find this method a bit uncomfortable (me included - only did it out of desperation) but it really did work. Plus, the awake time I have with DS is so much more productive as we're both awake and alert rather than tired and ratty. It's certainly not harmed our relationship. I think though that controlled crying only works if your baby is over a certain age.

My DD is too young for controlled crying and I don't think it would work for her temperament. When she's having a proper meltdown she stops breathing to gather up momentum before she unleashes her next wail so there is no way I could leave her to cry as I have to gently blow on her face to shock her into breathing again. Plus I think i would be too upset hearing her knowing what a state she was getting herself into.