Misery loves company: riding the mo fo out into Part II

[ElphabaTheGreen]

In our last exciting instalments:

Needles was at breaking point with a screaming 10 mo DD

Hear had experienced the magic of ONE unbroken night!

Dreaming was continuing to confound all with her ability to manage three children on four or five minutes a night, thanks to DT the Terrible.

Stitch was still having her sleep eaten by...erm...Stitch.

Poppy was pondering how the actual fark she was going to manage a newborn on top of BabyAmex's night time shenanigans.

And the desperate Elphaba had turned night duties entirely over to DH with mastitic results.

Join us with your stories of misery and woe in this, the most sleep-deprived corner of MN!

I'm still here Dreaming! DS is sleeping through the night, or only waking up briefly, still If it's consolation, my insomnia is pretty feral, so I'm not much better for it, although being back in my own bed rocks.

Got another sleep chat with Ann tomorrow, so I'll update you on the advice.

I'm busy painting like mad still. Currently got all the cupboard doors off the kitchen cupboards for painting, just resting between coats.

It was dd's birthday today. 2 whole years and she was still up at 2am trying to sleep on my head! Argh!

I mentioned the magical Ann to dh this morning and he didn't seem completely against the idea, but we have only been in the new place for a couple of weeks and it is still mayhem, so we're at least going to give it until we have finished the main decorating. Then if sleep is still awful I think ann could be in business.

Wow, now that's a result elph ! I think I'm winning Dh round. Though he's slightly stressed, as seeing as I resigned from work almost on a whim, and we worked out our disposable income afterwards. Still don't see why it matters though, after childcare I only made about 50/month . Anyway. I'm up to, dd and Dt the Angelic (he really is so lovely at the minute, just adorable, always comes to my rescue if we're playing chasing games, cries if he thinks he's in trouble as he hates it- hint: don't colour in the fecking radiators then) going to bed brilliantly. Mostly sleeping through. Dt the T . sigh . Give warning of last book. Fight through howling, fighting, hitting tantrum. Get into his bed. Cuddle him. Get out. Ignore protests, stay calming, hold his hand. I can even get out of his room onto the landing now. But there is not a chance in hell of him actually going the Fuck to sleep. 45 minutes, just escalating as so overtired. Can Ann fix him!? DH was saying its a shame we can't enjoy our dc more as we are just too knackered.
What a bummer about the insomnia though. Talk about bad timing. Is this 'just' insomnia, or is it pregnancy related?

hear I hate painting. I want it to be perfect, but then get so impatient I just want it to be done! Plus I can't gloss to save my life. Well done, I've no idea how you manage it with a toddler around. We moved when dd was 5 weeks old and still haven't painted anywhere!! Happy birthday to your dd! Two whole years!

bald, I can't type while my lot are around either, as dd just says "please mummy, get off your phone!" Pregnancy brain, does it ever truly pass?! Hope you're blooming, and yes, we need an update on how your ds is sleeping!

Bollocks!!! Finally got Dh to agree, Ann's website says she can't take on any more new families til after Easter. I don't know why that matters so much when its been like this so long, but harumphhh!! There isn't even a waiting list/ express interest type option.

Mini Roar belated Happy Birthday :) Has she stopped coughing?Well done on the painting front.Can I ask what paint do you use?I washed our cupboards recently-we've got lovely 70/80's kitchen with the cupboards the colour of diarrhoea/mustard that even DS doesn't like judging from all the handprints/foodmears on the door.
I like painting but hate all the preparation so no point in me getting a job as the painter.Mind you,I stripped wallpaper in 2 rooms to bring the costs down and painted the ceiling so if needs must I just need a good kick up my arse(will mention it later)

Bees I bf DS until 18 months-after that he wasn't too bothered and I think that his solid intake was bigger than breast milk. He used to wake up a few times a night for a boob but it was more for comfort of sleeping in kingsize bed than thirst/hunger.Then he nearly started sleeping and fucking teething started.Now if i see him being whingy for what seems to be no reason I give him nurofen for kids-it keeps him allrightish.

Dreaming hats off to you for becoming a SAHM.I wish you good luck,hope your DT's will improve,if not get Ann's details and leave the card in visible place for DH to see after a shitty night.

Elph wow,just wow for magical Ann.I wouldn't be able to sleep for the excitement of being in my own bed .Flippin heck,start charging us for the info and lessen the cost of sleep therapy!I thought you were due a bit later in August,how are you keeping? DH we chose not to find out the gender at the scan but I've got a feeling that's another boy.

Me,me,me time!

Off to work tomorrow,can't wait-will get some rest,more mental than physical.I'm fine in general,just frustrated for not being able to do anything with DS around-spring is coming with the snow and my hands are itching for the garden but no chance.

DS sleeps generally fine with just one or two wake ups which is not too bad.He goes to bed 90% without the protest and sleeps from 9-9:30 till 6:30 and once in the blue moon till 8! .Still has a nap during a day and I join him most of the time as the bump grows bigger.

Teething is a bastard,he's got the canines through but still grizzly like hell sometimes so I'm wondering if that's fucking molars that are on the go just now.

DS speak quite a few words and understands a lot but chooses NOT to comply-especially throwing things.Yesterday he managed to break a food clip,salad bowl and something else( can't remember what).Plenty of blabbing.Some words sound just the same:fork and fox sound like "fuck" so another delight beside "bugger" and "cock".

Looks like I'm going to have a childcare if I want to comeback after DC2-the girl that looks after DS still wants to do it,even with 2 of mine (plus her 2 DC).Will have to do the sums with DH,looks like I'll be earning our food-no luxuries though,currently switching to Lidl's.Goodness knows what I'm going to do when the car packs in.

Looking for alternatives like doing something myself but I'm shocked by my lazy attitude-I just can't bring myself to do anything.Any encouragement or advice how to change it?

Can't get mw appointment so might do without one for a while.

We tried to turf DSto his own room-DH has had his bed assembled and even cut off the legs of the wooden frame-mattress is very deep.DS is very happy to bounce on it but go to sleep?Nah!

Anyway,better go and try to get some sleep.Hugs to you all x

Well, you'll all be pleased to hear I haven't lost my entitlement to this thread quite yet. DS woke up at 4am, took half an hour to go back to sleep, then was awake again half an hour later. Took another ten minutes to fall asleep again then slept until 6:45 which was all very nice for him but being up since 4am hasn't done me any favours

Dreaming my insomnia is loooong standing. Ironically, BFing enabled me to sleep like Rip Van Winkle, but I ended up with a sleepless child instead, so fate clearly does not intend me to sleep, ever.

So Ann and I had another sleep chat this afternoon. Tonight I progress to standing outside DS's room as he falls asleep, where he can see me, but on the other side of the stair gate. He hasn't got out of bed at bedtime the last two nights with me sitting by the door. DH also has to sit with us during story time and bed time so that we can eventually share bedtime duties. We'll see how he goes tonight...

Didn't end up relocating outside his room tonight in the end. He was super-clingy all evening then a wailing mess at bath time so he's either feeling unwell or discombobulated about something. Didn't want it throw in anything else which might cause further upset. Still went to sleep in his bed like a champ after a few extra cuddles in his bed and with me sitting by the door while he went to sleep.

(pleasestayasleeppleasestayasleeppleasestayasleep)

Aaaaand he was awake for THREE HOURS in the night. DH and I took turns sitting with him which was actually quite brilliant - usually he's only ever tolerated me. He was perfectly quiet and stayed in his bed throughout, but bobbed up every time we tried to leave the room. Then he was awake again at 5:45 and screamed at me for a while when I put him back to bed, but didn't take too long to go back to sleep until 6:45.

Call me selfish, but I'd like a bit of an improvement on that tonight...

Oh crappie. New phone, just realised what you meant about the Cr_app app elph, I hate it!

anyway, boys ill. temps 39.5 and 40.1 this evening. it'll be a restful night, no?

how was yours elph? Is your DS ill again, or just resisting Ann's wiles?

Yeah, DS came out with a full blown cold about 24 hours later so he was obviously feeling a bit crappy.

He slept from 8ish til 5:30am yesterday morning. Ann said to treat any pre-6am wake-ups as night wakings which I tried valiantly for about half an hour, but DH was up and about because he had to catch an early train. DS, quite reasonably, couldn't see why he was being made to go back to sleep when everybody else was up, so I gave that one up as a lost cause. This morning, he was up at 4am, then awake every 15, 10 or 5 minutes thereafter, so I spent the best part of two hours standing at the door of his room to keep him going back to sleep until the fucking GroClock went orange.

Yes, I'm MNing in the toilet at work because I'm too fucking knackered to do anything remotely constructive...

Sigh.

Same again this morning, plus he was up at midnight.

Totally demoralised. This is just heading the same way it always does

Oh no elph . Is he well though? and is he still going to sleep in his own bed? Ann warned of a regression didn't she, when do you next speak to her?

Twins ill, ill, ill. day 5 of 39/40 temperature s. Not sleeping, of course. last night we had DT the Terrible up repeatedly all evening, roasting. DH even took him outside he was so damn hot. DT the (not so) Angelic up 9, 10 ish, 12, 2:45, 4:30, 6. DT the T kindly fitted an additional 5 am session in. among others, of course . It's like being back to the bad old days... And I've caught it and feel like death warmed up.

How's the painting hear? has she miraculously settled into the new place and sleeping through? !

Also thinking of you bees hope your dts are giving you a break.

And good news your girl will have dc 2 as well bald that's a relief!

Oh dear elph! Sounds like it could just be illness though. Everyone seems to be suffering at the moment. I was awake most of the night with a wiggly dd and dh was up and down to the loo with a bad belly. I seem to have avoided it so far but am knackered from no sleep.

Painting got put on hold for a bit while we watched game of thrones back to back waited for the plastering to be sorted. Back on the case today and got the livingroom primed. Massive ikea order arriving on Wednesday which I am very excited about. I love putting together flat pack furniture :o

Oh and I agree about the rubbish app! I just use the mobile version of the site.

Well, season four does start very soon, Hear. Priorities!

I have a sneaking suspicion that teeth may be the culprit. I thought he'd had them all through, but I did a recount while he was having a wail about something today and it would seem we're still short a couple of molars. He's been chewing on his hand way back in his mouth, had runny poo, and he was a cranky little bugger this afternoon so he's gone to bed with a syringeful of Ibuprofen tonight.

On the plus side, yes, Dreaming, he's still going to sleep like a star in his bed with me standing outside of the stair gate. Even DH was able to put him to bed by himself without fuss tonight which was brilliant. He also made it through to 5:15 this morning. I made about five attempts to resettle him and go back to the other side of the stair gate, but he leapt up and proceeded to give me an earful each time, so (slap on the wrist) I did go back to sitting at the wall opposite his bed. He was heavily asleep in about five minutes, I was able to go back to bed, at least to warm up (which I've not been able to do the past couple of mornings because he's been raging at me between his two-minute stretches of sleep), and he slept until 6:10.

I have to confess, the very worst thing I find about getting up at that hour of the day is having to put up with, 'Me Too!' on Cbeebies. That show makes me stabby.

Just bought DH game of thrones season 3 for his birthday next week . Very reasonable hear .

I'll cross everything for you elph . at least you're not having your hair twiddle all night! Bloody teeth. Bloody illness.

Hey! Can I jump in? Just spotted this thread.

Today I nearly packed a bag a fucked off. Dd(10) has started crying like a fucking maniac fir no reason what so ever if her df tries to settle her.

She actually started doing 6:30pm to 6:00 am one week we had it! then it all fucked up some how and it's worse than ever.

Last night do came home early and I'd just put her down! she was still chatting so he went and brought her down
One hour later dd well over tired and stimulated by playing hide and seek could not/would not go down.

She cried like some one was poking pins in her. Dp ended up driving round at 9pm till she went off. - that was the 2nd mistake if the night.

1am she starts again, because I'm in work on a Saturday - dp should go to her! but takes too fucking long, so by the time he hp gets there she is stamping fuvk out if the cot and breaks in to hysterics once again . Cue driving round estate for an hour.

THEN he sits down stairs and outs fucking in the night garden on at 2am. I end up going down and getting on couch ,with her, tell him to fuck off to bed and she dozes off.

I go to work on four hours sleep .

Come home, house is a shit hole, dd has had NO day time naps, looks wired doing a shouty shrieking goat scream every two mins.

She wouldn't go down for him so I had to sort her out and she had gone past the point if no return and ended up being let in my bed to fall asleep.

I got her out if this habit six months ago - wtf am I doing?

When do I ever get my break? Do I have to commit to doing every fucking night wake so it doesn't turn in to a fucking arse hole mess.

I cried on the phone to my mate, was supposed to meet her but physically /mentally couldn't

Gah!

Too much info ?

Ten months

Happy Mother's Day!

Not a lot of sleep but big toothy squishy kiss from DS with smiley coupon will have to do. Off to my lovely MIL today, will write something in the evening :)

Welcome Buck. Sounds entirely like your DH is the problem there!

My DH hasn't always been the most consistent with night wakings (nothing like as bad as yours, mind...) so I have always done all the night wakings for that reason, even though we both work full time. Everyone gets more sleep. Could you not take over all of them for now, get a system in place, then dictate it to him in words of one syllable? Since you've had a good sleeper gone bad, she might actually respond to some consistency unlike all the others on this thread

I'm trying to un-hoik the judgey-pants wedgie at putting a 10 month old in front of the TV at 2am and not really winning...

Hi!

Elphaba try not to lose hope, sure it is just a set back and think how much better it already is.

Welcom buck. Sounds a bit of a nightmare. My dh is great at night and to be honest I'm not consistent either, I lose all reason in the night!

Dreaming, sorry yours are sick, mine are too. It just makes the whole thing worse, though at least I feel a little more sympathetic!

Both have conjunctivitis and the worse sleeper has ear infection with blood coming out of his ears. I have a vain hope that when it clears he will become excellent sleeper! Hahaha. The better sleeper who was only waking once has seriously regressed, were bloody knackered. I have to do something I think but I cannot do lots of crying they go down wake and without boob but boob is major prop at night. Just dreaming of more that an hr sleep in a row.

Aft one else go round in circles of riding it out and thinking I have to do something or I will go fucking mental?

Hope you all enjoyed Mother's Day xxx

Ah yes best the endless cycle of planning, optimism and crushing disappointment and failure, swiftly followed by renewed resolution to just ride the mo fo out again. I am currently moving back into the ride it out phase again after a brief moment of enthusiasm. It'll pass though and I'll be back to the'something must be done' stage again in no time at all I'm sure.

Sadly elph we now have to wait a whole year until dh gets season 4 for his birthday next year. We got the first season for his birthday the day after dd was born and it was the first thing we watched with her when we got home from hospital (getting the parenting fail in early). It has now become a tradition that dh gets it for his birthday ever year and we get all sentimental while watching people hack each others heads off (obviously without dd joining the viewing these days). Tis a beautiful thing.

Oh, I just wanted to mention how much I flipping hate clock change! Bloody farmers!

I've got their bug and feel like death warmed up... argh! truly sympathetic now, it's grim. I have resorted to asking mil this afternoon for some help.

Yes bestbees exactly the same. I think we must Do Something, try, fail, then go back to riding the mo fo out here. 6 weeks of my life on one week blocks given over to pick up put down and gradual retreat. crying methods not for me even now he's stopped vomiting.

fucking, fucking clock changes

Oh and welcome buck. your dh needs sorting! ! mine struggle s mind... and actually, til about that age he took them out most nights in the buggy for me for an hour, 3-4 is . They just didn't fucking sleep! !

Hi, judge away , I did! My head was twisting round like the exorcist ! I think n his way he was trying to let me sleep by talking her out/down stairs when in reality it was too much stimulation. Dp is know for talking the path f least risistance.

I am taking over the night wakes - it's just not worth the hassle

She eke about three times (I think) last night and ended up having a bottle at four. Today, im going to fill her up, with lots of solids so I know she can't be hungry and try and ween her down again .

Feel so run down though, I actually lost my mind on Saturday , had tears streaming down my face and didn't even realise.

Sorry for being a grump.