Mumsnet TV show starring Mumsnetters ready to view. Please tell us what you think...

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You may remember at the end of 2009 we asked for volunteers to be filmed having the Mumsnet hair cut and take part in a Mumsnet TV makeover etc. Well the final cut of the first Mumsnet e-TV magazine show is now up and ready to view (and before we go any further there's definitely a starring role/Mumsnet book/our undying gratitude for anyone who can think up a snappier title for the show. Anything other than Mumsnet Magazine TV show would be an improvement).

Made for Mumsnetters and starring - who else - Mumsnetters, the current plan is that this will be a regular show bringing you all the MN staples - AIBU, beauty tips, MN makeovers, sleb interviews, some political stuff - the works.

This episode is a trial run to see what works (and what doesn't). We already have an idea of what doesn't work (mostly any time MNHQ get involved/appear ) but we think you'll agree that the Mumsnetters are great - absolutely star material.

You can find the show in the MNTV slot on the right hand side of the page on Chat, AIBU, Site Stuff, webchats, Telly addicts, competitions and active conversations. Please take a minute (or seven) to have a look and then tell us what you think of it. All suggestions and feedback welcome (but do be gentle with us...). Oh and don't forget a name for the show.

Thanks and enjoy,

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Agree with Butter Pie. Think we should be aspiring to Woman's Hour/Question Time rather than Loose Women/This Morning.

Would rather see the AIBU bit something along the lines of Question Time - more of a debate than just a rant.

And agree with ButterPie that there needs to be more politics or at the very least, a harder edge. Although I quite enjoyed the piece, frankly if I was any of the webchat visitors we've had over the last few months and had seen it, I would be wondering why on earth I would want to be on MN.

Bloody hard to capture the essence of MN in a short piece, but I don't think we're all about froth, S&B or just AIBU - even if those are the boards that get most posts.

• Everyone sounded the same. Too London.
• Really liked Mamazon + Reality - would have liked to seen more.
• Really liked Mars from this and the other video clippy things too
• Liked Michelle's friend. Very funny. And Michelle of course.
• Thought asking Will Young for advice on how to deal with gay children was good but didn't quite hear his reply properly.
• Hated the fashion bit. The ladies were great but the tips were predictable and very dull. Outfits were blah and it was like a sixth form, dulled down version of every other makeover show ever.
• Mumsnet haircut - Far too rushed. It would have been good if she'd done it properly - maybe with a bit of drama. I straightened my hair before I did it - really don't think it works with curly hair - you could see an awful choppy chunk at the front.
• Didn't like AIBU because it only presented one side of the argument, in a very snotty way. Was it supposed to be funny? Liked the suggestion to have a shopkeeper's opinion etc.

It looked a bit amateurish (sorry), though the mumsnetters came across really well, I think I prefer them anonymous, it loses a bit of the mystique for me otherwise.

I didn't like AIBU at all, that topic is all about the debate and it was just a ranty lady. Why blurred out as well? If you feel that strongly about something it shouldn't be blurred.

Overall it made me cringe a bit. If my DH or someone from my family watched it as an example of mumsnet I think they would really get the wrong impression of why I like mumsnetting so much. I especially didn't like the norks bit, its a bit of an in-joke and doesn't come across well on the film.

... and it would appear that the humour of the way AIBU was treated was a bit lost!

it's like LOOSE WOMEN - don't rate it at all...even the music is like LW

Wow! GerryMumsnet is a silver fox

the music was a bit rubbish, yes. it's hard to know what you should be doing, i think, whether it should be This Morning or Newsnight. there must be a middle ground to occupy that doesn't make fools of us all.

i'd be inclined to do a video diary type of thing where you send a digi camera to an mner for some insight into her life. i'd like to know what's going on wiht our island mners, and those from abroad. it would have been great to see how the mountain mners coped during the snow, very ray mears. or a diary of a birth, esp if it was one where we had been of service online.

tbh i can't stand loose women, so the idea of more cackling women on the telly is a bit of a turn off. but then you'll never please everyone.

I thought the style stuff was not great.
The dresses dismissed as nt great. the low dresses were great for big tits they just needed a camisole under for daytime wear 9weddings etc) and push up bra for evening wear. How could he not kno this?

I think you need to get groups of MNers together and just film the conversations, and then edit it show the discussions with differing viwepoints/heated debates/hilarity etc, like a thread but live.

you could do this with serious topics, like politics, topical news, womens issues, this would have more aof a Any questions feel,then and also do the AIBU live debates (this would be great! so fiesty and funny) and the fashion would work this way too. getting Mners to try stuff on and the group critique it (add wine for maximum effect). You could do this with fashion topics like school run dress, what to wear on a night out in the pub, what lengths skirt is trashy/frumpy, is there a non frumpy yet watermac out there etc? AND you could critique in groups shops seasonal collections, Boden/Next etc big try on andcommenting sessions-Oh!! the power potential there! potential great publicity for them but also risky!

Mn panels also with well known figures discussing rather than being talked to-eg get women from bravissimo into to discuss bras with real mners, get politicias in for live debate, basically your webchats but live.

I think mumsbox is a good name, and I think if you can get it right it could work really well and become quite influential as the webchats have.

Hmm sorry, I was trying to say the dresses with low V necks were good for big tits.

And, I think you need to try to get over the vitality of the interaction on MN, the edcuated views, the deeply held convictions the intelligent debate alongide the funny frothy shallow stuff and the general fiesyyness of MN, all these needs to come across. You don't have to choose beteween the serious and frothy, MN is both, because women are both.

Groups of MNers, wine, and a good editor are the way to go imo.

I thought the interview was great but the other clips didn't really get across the personalities of the mners for me.

Also it was a bit "lite" - a bit GMTV - a bit (dare I say it) netmums.

I think people come to MN for the brash, larger than life characters and cheeky banter (which did come across in the Will Young interview) and for the intelligent views which, frankly, were missing throughout.

Looking at this you would think the majority of us are pre-occupied with style and spend our time doing weirdy rants in darkened bedrooms.

That may be mumsnet, James, but not as I know it

agree with those who say we should be aiming for a Woman's Hour remit rather than a GMTV one.

Woman's Hour's not perfect, but it does manage to do the "grapes in supermarket" "lack of clothes for the larger lady" debates, but in among serious stuff and intelligent debate.

can't you get the mners who work/worked in tv to make things? at least one of us used to be a documentary-maker.

(and of course if there's one thing you can do to fuck your career in television it's become a mother...)

I just think it's all a bit meh.

I think the whole format needs to be edgier -that's why we're all here and not on netmums.

It really doesn't appear in that (admittedly short) clip, very representative of MN.

Yes you can do the beauty stuff - and that was very good I thought, and you can do the clothes stuff, BUT interspersed with some lively debate (on bumsex, dare you )or some more serious matters.

MNetters were all very comfortable looking in front of the camera - well done! And was it Michelle who did the haircut? She looked great!

Said it before and I'll say it again, my dh has his own business making tv for tinternet. Offer still on the table mnhq ... When I showed him last night he was talking about having "its own platform" and not being "streamed through You Tube" re. the picture quality. At which point I glazed over. Could we have a "glazing over" emoticon, by the way, I think it would be a useful addition.

BIG NEWS EVERYONE! Who agrees with me? - the mnetter ranting in AIBU is Leslie from the haircut clip, and the mnetter with the trolley and very gorgeous grape eating toddler is her friend Michelle ...

It's very Daytime TV isn't it. Not my cup of tea really. Sorry.

Bonsoir
I really hope that you forgot a smiley or a wink then.
That is an awful thing to say, you've outdone yourself.

naughty Bonsoir

Sorry, didn't think much to it.

Had to turn it off after 2 minutes.

Mumsnet needs the mystery, please don't turn it into a crap daytime TV franchise, it is worth so much more.

TBH it made me cringe! I didn't see the point and the beauty\haircut parts were just like the amateur video's you get on YouTube. I think if anyone follows the haircut you'd end up with a disaster as I thought you were supposed to carefully brush you hair first?

It's a start. I'd lose the background music except where absolutely necessary, and get rid of the Powerpoint interludes. It seemed like there was too much crammed into the 8 or so minutes, either make it longer or cover less topics in more detail - it did kind of 'gloss over' things. As to the subject matter, yes it was all a bit fluffy this time, but I'm sure more weighty matters could be covered too, it was probably easier to recruit people for the fashion/beauty thing for a pilot show.

I won't criticise the production values as I assume you didn't want to spend too much on a pilot, I'm sure things would be better if this turned into a regular show .