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Mumsnet - please can you sort out all the Jade posts?

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PussinJimmyChoos · 22/03/2009 22:26

Its horrible. Regardless of what she did/didn't do, she was a mother. We are all mums and God forbid we will ever have to go through something like this, knowing we will leave our kids behind and not see them grow up.

Threads like this are not in the spirit of Mumsnet and yes, I can hide them if I want, but to be honest, would like to see them deleted. I know policy is to let the debates run with minimum intervention, but tonight its going too far

Thanks,

Puss

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2shoes · 22/03/2009 22:46

QuintessentialShadow I aggree with that, but the trouble with having one thread is that it doesn't allow any other discusion.
I suppose I was thinking maily about the thread in other discussing greif. would that be pulled?

QuintessentialShadow · 22/03/2009 22:47

I dont know. But there has been a lot of malice, and maybe it is time to move on. The

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PussinJimmyChoos · 22/03/2009 22:48

Why would we have or want to have any other discussion?? She's a human being fgs, she's barely cold. Whatever happened, happened -why rehash it on here??

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2shoes · 22/03/2009 22:52

the thread I am talking about is as you can see not about JG but would be deemed so

beanieb · 22/03/2009 22:52

2shoes. I think the issue is that if anyone ever tries to express sorrow or sympathy towards someone famous who has died or is very ill, there seem to be a lot of people who feel no sympathy at all but instead of just not contributing to the threads they think it's important that they jump in and post about how everyone who is sympathetic is a bit silly for feeling that way. Plus there are people who don't just stop at telling people they are stupid but also feel the need to be quite mean about whoever the celebrity is.

Like I said earlier there's a difference between

(a) not feeling particularly sad or sympathetic about someone's death or illness

and

(b) the need to tell everyone that you're not feeling particularly sympathetic about someone's death or illness.

Earlier there was a thread (still is maybe) which someone started to say 'Jade Goody died' and then posted about how sad it was that this had finally happened, that someone would die so young and so suddenly - expressing sympathy for her children and family for losing someone they loved.

A few other people responded in a similar way.

The issues in the thread only began when someone once again came in with the 'who cares, you're all really mawkish, Jade was crap' comments which really there is just no need for. Don't you think?

2shoes · 22/03/2009 22:53

(sorry) but even if you have one thread surely that would still happen, as everyone who wanted to, would have to post on one thread.

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PussinJimmyChoos · 22/03/2009 22:54

Arghh! Now this has turned into a thread which I didn't intend at all!

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beanieb · 22/03/2009 22:55

I guess so. Even when mumsnet make one thread, people still start new ones.

maybe we should all just ignore opinions which annoy us

2shoes · 22/03/2009 22:55

sorry puss, I am in thick mode today.

QuintessentialShadow · 22/03/2009 22:56

But those who dont want to see all these threads will know which one to HIDE and wont feel incensed to butt in and irritate the heck out of all the others on the thread.

QuintessentialShadow · 22/03/2009 22:57
2shoes · 22/03/2009 22:57

surely once people have posted their sadness the threads will fall down

KayHarkerIsPlayingWithMitchell · 22/03/2009 22:58

I've got no problem with the initial thread announcing she had died, and the expressions of condolence and sadness on it. I don't mind that there have been threads in the past few weeks that have discussed the wider issues and the different opinions on the matter.

But tonight has been absoluely bloody horrible, and the 'active convos' list has been a steady stream of bizarre bumped old Jade threads and threads about threads, and it's really just unreadable.

QuintessentialShadow · 22/03/2009 22:58

Sure, they will. But no chance of that happening when so many people jump on the threads which are there, in the manner beanieb outlines below.

I have one new MN motto in life (as of this moment):

ignore - ignore - ignore.

QuintessentialShadow · 22/03/2009 23:00

Kay - agreed. It has been to the point where I wondered what sort of horrid mundane thread I could start to get everybodys attention over to it!

(such as dhs willy stuck in vacuum cleaner, or other such sillyness, I even tried with a pirate sex thread the other day!!!)

2shoes · 22/03/2009 23:02

oh do
we all need a lol

wannaBe · 22/03/2009 23:03

but there are peopple who genuinely do not understand this outpouring of public grief for a total stranger. And because they do not get it they are branded discompassionate/unfeeling.

This is not about slating the woman, this is about whether people have the right to discuss the reactions to her passing and events that led to that. You can discuss the events surrounding her without actually slagging her personally off, iyswim.

This is a public website. You cannot simply tell people that they are entitled to voice only one opinion or to shut up.

IMO there does not need to be a platform for greif on this matter. She was not known personally to any of us, therefore after the "it's " there is nothing more to be said in terms of the sympathizing either.

So either one thread should be created to discuss whatever it is people need to discuss, be that to sympathize or to question why people need to sympathize, or the discussion of Jade should be banned altogether.

QuintessentialShadow · 22/03/2009 23:05

I am not saying people should not discuss. Only that people whe get worked up by all the threads should not have to see them all over the site and then post unsympathetically simply because they are fed up with the topic matter.

thumbwitch · 22/03/2009 23:05

I really hope that MNHQ can do something to stop the nastier old threads about her being re-bumped - perhaps rather than deleting them, you could just make them too big to accept new messages, regardless of size, so that they can't appear on Active Convos? Or is that too nanny state?

I was absolutely bloody appalled to see that one about being delighted to see the back of her - quickly twigged it was an old one but still - outrageous! I am no fan either but certainly can empathise with her family's loss today of all days.

Ledodgy · 22/03/2009 23:08

I agree with Wannabe (but I still love you as well quint )

QuintessentialShadow · 22/03/2009 23:10

Time for bed.

KayHarkerIsPlayingWithMitchell · 22/03/2009 23:10

wannBe, it's not that - I'm actually someone who can't quite understand the massive public grief thing. But tonight was beyond that - it was wall to wall Jade posts, and every single one of them was exactly the same argument.

It's just a waste of bandwidth, and it's both very dull, and really pretty cheap.

FAQinglovely · 22/03/2009 23:10

I do find it rather frustrating that there are so MANY of the bloody things???

gibbberish · 22/03/2009 23:12

She's gone.

It's terribly sad. (seriously)

Can these threads be ended now??

wannaBe · 22/03/2009 23:13

oh the sheer number of threads is quite astonishing I agree.

But there has been suggestion further up the thread that one thread should be created for outpourings of sympathy only and that anyone else should refrane from comment.

Tbh, I do wonder whether this would all die down anyway depending on how the media continue to react? Now that Jade has died there's really not much else to say is there? so the lack of reporting may well lead to a lack of discussion...

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