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If you (still) feel the need to discuss Moldies [part 2]

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YetMoreTech · 31/12/2008 11:29

This thread is a continuation of this one. That one had become too big for its own boots the system to handle.

OP posts:
Quattrocento · 02/01/2009 00:12

Not the dribbling bit, I mean the searching for the offending IP address thing. More as an academic exercise just to see if it worked.

NotanOtter · 02/01/2009 00:13

i agree!

rl is so much easier

have friends - talk - laugh - support - all know where we are!

maybe his thread should go or someone with bollocks like Justine should tell us all the way forward and we agree to comply...

Doodle2U · 02/01/2009 00:14

Glad you clarified Quattro - was about to pass you a tissue.

If you use my IP addy to look up, it should take you to Stockport.

controlfreakyhohohohohohoho · 02/01/2009 00:16

i'm going to sleep on it.

LedodgyChristmasjumper · 02/01/2009 00:17

I've had a bizarre rl tonight though too at 10.30pm my best friend came round in tears so much so I thought someone had died. I then realised she was bladdered had, had an argument about which she couldn't remember with her dp and ended up at my house. She also described how she'd enjoyed sliding down her stairs so much so she did it twice then asked if she could slide down my stairs too I luckily put her off gave her a cuppa and sent her home. I haven't seen her that drunk since we were about 16!

NotanOtter · 02/01/2009 00:18

sounds such fun ledodgy in a slightly bizarre way!!

RustyBear · 02/01/2009 00:19

OK, maybe not totally harmless in that sense, but not a personal attack as the later additions were. I thought it wouldn't have been deleted on MN itself, whereas the other bits would, so I left it. That was my judgement, if you think I was wrong,fine, but I wasn't alone; whoever else was editing at the same time obviously thought the same, as our edits were the same.

Monkeytrousers · 02/01/2009 00:28

But that seems to be the talisman of some. Its the cowards way out. To be non specific and then use weasil words and eqwuivocation. We are all adults here. No one is builled on a forum unless they consent to be bullied and unless any physoical harm is threatened. Any fucker could claim to feel bullied, just so they can avoid the issue at hand.

It's not bullying though. It;'s just the cut and thrust of words. Do we think Gordon Brown is bullied in the Commons? Of course we fucking don't. Or is is becasue we are women that makes us more delicate? Balls!

Anyway, I'm off to bed with my numerous black russians. n'night!

RustyBear · 02/01/2009 00:32

Sorry, MT , but was that meant to be to me?

Quattrocento · 02/01/2009 00:36

LOL I can't imagine it was Bear.

Tortington · 02/01/2009 00:37

i ama delecate flower i'll have you know. and a layyydee

TWINSETinapeartree · 02/01/2009 00:43

My lovenote said
"enjoy your cheese my little mumsnetting viper"

NotanOtter · 02/01/2009 00:46

how adorable!!

TWINSETinapeartree · 02/01/2009 00:47

He is

LedodgyChristmasjumper · 02/01/2009 00:47

Well that's just great you get heese and anote of enouragement and I get bribed and had to have my norks felt all night! Thankfully he's given up now and is asleep!

NotanOtter · 02/01/2009 00:48

You should be in bed !

Flihgtattendant · 02/01/2009 07:27

i have had a little thought.

It's about what sophable said earlier about her feeling that some people didn't really want her over there.

I am thinking that possibly if some people were correct in their assertion that it is set up as a select group who consider themselves superior,

then surely that whole vibe of 'we are the top girls, everyone do as we say' (demonstrated perhaps in the sometimes arrogant interruption of other people's threads on here, in the past, in-jokes etc etc) would have difficulty in perpetuating, as everyone would be '[invite only' and therefore nobody could be perceived as being a pleb or having second class status - as perhaps some people felt they were on here, before the arrogant element departed.

Therefore the new forum will either have none of that class ethic going on, and will be all sweetness between the top gals, or else it will need to supply its own underclass somehow in order to facilitate the arrogance.

In which case it is just same old, same old, happening in a smaller petri dish. And if there is no hierarchy over there, I wonder how long it can survive as surely the arrogant superiority of some was key to the elite? And without that...nobody to toast the crumpets, as someone mentioned...how can it survive?

Of course this is simply a kind of exploration of another 'what if' experienced only through one perspective, which I am unwilling to take ownership of personally as my own feelings are still so unsettled and ambivalent.

But it makes for a good social experiment.

Flihgtattendant · 02/01/2009 07:29

I think my point being, MN possibly is needed in some way - an underclass is needed and contact with said underclass is also necessary or it would become irrelevant/detached from the new setup and therefore not function as an underclass.

Or am i talking bolleaux?

Flihgtattendant · 02/01/2009 07:31

And I did find the old style arrogance brought its own humour, which I miss in a way...although MN is a simpler and happier place without it.

Ihope these posts are taken as purely a theoretical exploration. I'm only thinking too much about how it all works, am not trying to attack anyone. I have still some equanimity regarding the whole thing.

Monkeytrousers · 02/01/2009 08:35

I saw Goody TwoShoes with the devil!

(Anyone know The Crucible?)

Dreyfus · 02/01/2009 08:59

I do think MN is a 'simpler and happier place' these days - so I think really the change is for the good. That doesn't stop me being saddened about the exclusivity which has made many good people feel betrayed and rejected, nor does it stop my blood momentarily boiling when a Moldie pops back to say how lovely it is over there, and how we can't tell them where to post (no. Exactly!) and they're going to damn well carry on posting where they like - it's been a bit bewildering to see so much insensitive self-justification, and seeming disregard for the feelings of hurt that were caused - feeling part of a select little group and having the power of invite-or-veto doesn't seem to have improved everyone's character or empathy, that's for sure (not every Moldie of course - just the ones bullishly maintaining that nothing in the least unkind or underhand has gone on and that the Unwanted should just Get Over It.)

Of course they can carry on posting over here, that's the whole point, and I'm sure if they just carried on joining in MN discussions in the usual way no-one would make them feel unwelcome - the dust will settle soon - it's just that the more they say about Moldies - to try and smooth things over?! the worse it sounds:

I started a couple of (very unpopular) threads on moldies predicting that mners would be hurt to be excluded and that the nomination process was, erm, difficult to say the least. I was pretty roundly flamed for them!

daftpunk · 02/01/2009 09:09

mumsnet will always be the better option for most people. it has tons more people, more opinions, ok, the odd troll here and there, but we can handle them!....i can see the attraction of the moldies site (for some people)...but can also imagin it getting a bit boring after a while.

Tiggiwinkle · 02/01/2009 09:34

Oh dear. Here we are in the New Year and it's not feeling any better is it?

I agree with Dreyfus-it is absolutely infuriating that some moldies continue to come over and post inflaammatory comments on these threads. And I am not talking about posters who contribute across the board, but the few who seem to be coming over and just posting on these threads to have a dig.

I continue to feel saddened by some of the names which have emerged as this thing has unfolded. I still cannot understand why posters, some of whom have had a huge amount of support here, have now turned their backs on the site-and on most of us.

And I cannot see any way forward at the moment.

sarah293 · 02/01/2009 09:40

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daftpunk · 02/01/2009 09:42

i suppose if you join a site where you know some of your mates will get stabbed in the back.... you don't really give a toss do you...

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