Why so much hate on MN?

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Why so much hate on MN?
Posters hiding behind complaints about the government, presenting themselves as reasonable actors, to push hate about asylum seekers, people with disabilities, benefit claimants..Mostly the same names all day everyday.
I am told to report - MN just not interested.
I am told to hide the thread..
Why isn't moderation better?
I know this will always exist and exists on other platforms but MN makes no effort to even try to anything about it.
You can't really sell MN as a caring, supportive site with all this stuff offered on a daily basis in active.

What’s your point?

People can have genuine needs, be assessed by a private doctor and find it easy to get PIP?

And people can have genuine needs, be assessed by the NHS and find it easy to get PIP?

Both can be true.

It’s just a new angle. Now PIP to ‘rich people’ is the problem. Labour spin on a dime. Amazing how fast it is. The Guardian helping out there.

If cash switches to services I doubt low or high income receivers will be split into groups. All those in that group will select services rather than get cash.

What group?

It’s in the Telegraph too. Is that bastion of left wing politics helping out too?

My point is that people who need it should receive PIP and people should stop demonising them for it.

Recognising that money helps navigating the system is part of that.

What new angle?

That labour pays the work shy is nonsense?

Let’s see.

Labour are partial to a spot of class warfare, as we know.

Have a look at Timms review. There’s initial suggestions for drop down services rather than cash, not for everything possibly MH related, you’re better off reading what is being looked at directly.

Disability charities will oppose, but Burnham needs Labour MPs onside.

Better.

Who can forget the early reports of private school emigres being refused access to a local school after the VAT imposition etc.

Welfare apartheid here we come.

People are using the private appointments to ease if the pressure on the NHS, not to make it easier to claim.

David Cameron claimed it.

Justifiably I trust you will agree?

Of course they are. 😂

Next time just post the link

Point is he didn’t need it if we’re going down the means tested route. My son could get it. He doesn’t claim.

Absolutely.

You might find that funny. It tells me about your attitude to the NHS.

See, people generally use please and thank you in situations like this.

Idk there’s a few posts below on ‘Pip isn’t means tested’. If they stir up enough of the below about ‘rich areas’ getting via private diagnosis then maybe.

It’s a bit self defeating though as it would then be means tested.

And if it’s not means tested everyone in the group who gets services instead of cash will see that, not just the rich / broadest shoulders / latest Labour line.

The Telegraph might be printing it to remind everyone, even those in wealthier area that they, too, are entitled to claim PIP.

Nothing wrong with that.

I did to the posters sharing the links. Did you?

Anything else you would like to berate me for?

Sorry, I missed the please in your post I replied to.

Maybe I simply didn’t see it?

PIP isn't means tested and I am fine with that

Agree with this re that post.

It tells you nothing about my attitude to the NHS and everything about my knowledge of the use of private healthcare which I used myself to avoid a two year wait. I can assure you it had nothing to do with taking pressure off the NHS. And I’m one of its biggest supporters.