FWR being trolled by a user called AidaP

[Hedgehogforshort]

Hi MNHQ can you please address the issue of a certain poster called AidaP who is not participating in debate he is just trolling.

to be clear this person is a trans woman who has been convicted of violence and is posting promotion of acts of violence against women elsewhere.

in particular there is one elsewhere about using a roughly hewn rolling pin to rape women.

you realy need to look in to him it is just so not on that he is being allowed to bother us here.

I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt in that this all seems so bonkers that it generates the “This has jumped the shark” comments.

But it’s real, the screenshots are there for everyone to see. The endless derailing and bath-faith posting is on so many FWR threads.

And “this is so bonkers that it can’t possibly be true” has been a central feature of what we’ve arguing against for the last decade or so: it’s all so extreme (kids being given hormones after one GIDS appointment, people losing their jobs for liking a tweet, the whole autogynaephilia thing) that it’s so easily dismissible by those who cannot or wish not to believe it’s real.

I think the “jumped the shark” comment is based on the fact the OP is about AidaP’s use of a particularly crude term and how awful it is, only for the thread to have now repeated it a hundred times or so, giving both Aida and the term much more air then they deserve.

Oh no, I disagree. Everyone should see how nasty and horrible men get when they’re told no by women. Especially when those men claim to be women.

Quite! However, GHC was too busy complaining about sharing screenshots from bluesky, suggesting the screenshots could potentially doxx ickle Aida. She explicitly said that she’d not read the link he’d posted but had clocked the screenshots but obviously hadn’t had time to read the content despite said content being posted on the thread but wanted to get in a quick scolding
So I’ll join you in the ‘oh really?’ corner!

If someone said fuck Beyonce with a splintered rolling pin, Id just assume they dont like her. I wouldnt turn it into a racist attack, even if Farage was the one saying it. I dont make things up and exaggerate to try and prove my point. I dont need to.

I see one as an extension of the other. Fuck you would just be an abbreviated rape threat. The fuck still means "have sex with" and there isnt consent so it will be rape.

Or it doesnt mean that and it isnt a rape threat at all.

Who is making things up? The post is there for all to see.

No i dont think TWAW. I just think it isnt that harmful if they think they are now ive seen all the reaching and exaggerating you've had to do to pretend they are dangerous.

So that's how youve pushed me from this is dangerous and should be stopped to meh, leave them be. Well done you guys! You probably change heaps of minds that way just by revealing your inner thoughts.

What ive gone from is "the whole trans thing is dangerous and they are insane", to "the insanity is on both sides and the trans people arent the most dangerous group out of the 2 of them".

Why are you defending a man who thinks women should be raped with splintery rolling pins for the crime of saying no to him? In what other scenario would this be acceptable and defensible? If I said “all males with a trans identity need to be castrated with a rusty spoon”. Would that be hate speech or acceptable to you?

Sure buddy. Sure. Have fun with that.

Its a colloquialism. As I said I have a collegaue who says fuck X with a spiky butt plug. X can be a person, a concept, a political party, a unwanted food item. Literally anything. It just means "reject that thing". Fuck that thing.

Isnt fun. It's informative.

Did JKR say no to aida? Like they had a conversation where JKR said no?

Oh yes, "both sides" and "the dangerous and perverted people are the ones trying to keep men out of women's changing rooms and boxing rings". Goodness, you totally got us there. We never saw that one. The mythical "genitals checks" are coming next, aren't they? Funny, because you haven't seen any genitals here abd yet we all know what's drawn you.

It's over, mate. Find another hobby.

Who is the TRA crowd? Another lesson you jave to learn is just because a woman disagrees with you, it doesnt make her part of any crowd. I disagree that fuck you or fuck you with X is a rape threat. Whoever says it. In this case, a trans person said it. When my female colleague says it, I feel the same.

You have become so polarised in your fixation on this topic you think anyone who disagree with you on anything remotely involving trans people must be some advocate for them.

Most of us have more thoughts in our heads than this one issue.

What has drawn me? Please do elaborate?

Quite aside from the massive safeguarding issues around children being “gender affirmed” (aka the Tavistock scandal, which is well documented in the book “Time to Think”) have a look here: https://transcrimeuk.com

But yeah, we’re all “mentally unstable and unhinged” when we talk about the risk to women and children

If you think we really believe you’ve gone from being GC to your current standpoint of “You’re so cruel/mad/mean!”, I have some magic beans to sell you.

I wonder if it a matter of someone who has non existent or very low personal boundaries around consent and appropriate behaviour and no knowledge of safeguarding. A man who would make such a post on social media seems to have neither.

Either way, knowing that people have explained carefully how the post can be interpreted, and surely understanding how distressing the post is to the people he has spent weeks calling bigots which he used specifically in his post, that he continues posting should be at the very least considered bullying. We have pointed out to him how the post has been interpreted by us and he laughed it off.

That is most certainly not a respectful approach to a serious situation.

So because you think that language ia distressing, someone should stop using it on a different site? Or because they posted on a didferent site using distressing language, you think they should not post here?

You realise this isn't a site for GC women, right? That everyone has the right to post their opinions in accordance with the CoC? If things people post here make you feel distressed, you need to log out. Not them.

I dont agree that women are inherently vulnerable. I think that breeds misogyny and it isnt how I think of people of my sex. I understand you do feel that but no, I would object to the idea of us needing safeguarding as if we lack capacity as adults just by having a vagina.

I can take SS and post them to my FB from the site. I am not aware of any site rule that forbids that. It would be very hard to enforce.

Her whole Twitter account is a giant “no” to all boundary violating men.

I dont agree that women are inherently vulnerable

And that's precisely why nobody is taking any lessons from you on safeguarding and we can ignore everything you say. Well, it's not the only reason, but it's quite enough on its own. Thanks!