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Board for high earners

309 replies

BellesAndGraces · 08/10/2024 19:53

I see that the other thread was started by an OP who wasn’t engaging in good faith. I certainly am so, Mumsnet, can we please have a separate board for high earners? It would be helpful for these threads to be in one place and to avoid them being high jacked by the inevitable “small violin” and “diamond shoes” comments.

OP posts:
WindsurfingDreams · 08/10/2024 22:55

MetalGearSystem · 08/10/2024 22:52

gingernuts

Grin
Allthegoodnamesaregonegone · 08/10/2024 22:57

PaydayJay · 08/10/2024 22:48

Alas, if you have to ask ...

Then you’re a povvo

or perhaps I could be on the cusp of being a ‘high earner’, 95k annual each, so close to living above the breadline.

spoiler alert… I’m a povvo

HughJarz · 08/10/2024 22:58

In the interests of fairness, there would then need to be a board for people who are properly rich without needing to do anything so mundane as work.

Runnerinthenight · 08/10/2024 22:59

HughJarz · 08/10/2024 22:58

In the interests of fairness, there would then need to be a board for people who are properly rich without needing to do anything so mundane as work.

And one for those on benefits so that they could ask each other questions without (in theory!) getting bashed??

MetalGearSystem · 08/10/2024 23:00

HughJarz · 08/10/2024 22:58

In the interests of fairness, there would then need to be a board for people who are properly rich without needing to do anything so mundane as work.

id be intrested to read that as its basically the way society is heading if various industries are replaced my robots and AI

DangerMouseAndPenfoldx · 08/10/2024 23:01

MurdoMunro · 08/10/2024 22:55

People are being snarky because we have a big problem with wealth disparity in the UK which is becoming more stark, obvious and problematic. To come into a place where the likelihood of the majority being at the bottom of the scale and very often with limited opportunity to redress that to ask for a special place to talk about your money problems is going to get people’s ganders up. The fact that you are so prickly about the responses kinda demonstrates the point really. It’s the tone, it’s always about the tone.

https://www.jrf.org.uk/narrative-change/changing-the-narrative-on-wealth-inequality#:~:text=Wealth%20inequality%20is%20high%20and%20rising%20and%20more%20marked%20than,from%2052.5%25%20in%201995).

What’s the alternative that you would suggest? People above a certain income level should just be banned from posting?

Because it seems there is a problem with anyone with a higher income mentioning anything to do with it on general threads/topics and, judging by responses on this thread, no appetite to provide a separate area for discussion.

maverickfox · 08/10/2024 23:02

DangerMouseAndPenfoldx · 08/10/2024 22:47

Well, if the threads were on a different board presumably they wouldn’t be so triggering to all those who pile on with “tiny violins”.

And equally it would be easier to suggest to someone who did pile on that if the topic upset them they might benefit from hiding it.

Then maybe you wouldn’t have someone who was asking for advice following her husbands suicide having to ask for her thread to be deleted.

Edited

I’m sorry your friend lost her husband in such awful circumstances (forgive me if I don’t scroll back to see if it was your friend or whether you are using the post about her as an example.) Generally, I find MN very supportive to people in difficulty. I’m not saying she should have disclosed her situation but people take the posts they read at face value so how could anyone know. I don’t like the tiny violin posts myself but a lot of people are really struggling financially at the moment so it is hard to be sympathetic when you have very little to manage on.

DangerMouseAndPenfoldx · 08/10/2024 23:09

I don’t like the tiny violin posts myself but a lot of people are really struggling financially at the moment so it is hard to be sympathetic when you have very little to manage on.

No one is asking for sympathy though. Just for somewhere to discuss things without triggering other posters.

(It wasn’t my friend, it was the friend of another poster up-thread).

MixieMatchie · 08/10/2024 23:09

Yes, I mean people can be unsympathetic about all sorts of things. Who knows whether the OP of the latest parking thread, or whatever is dividing AIBU today, has also suffered a recent tragedy. I don't like snarkiness and meanness as a rule, and I don't think anyone should have to disclose personal tragedies in order to be treated with respect, but how could anyone know about your friend's situation? It feels a bit cheap (forgive the unintentional wordplay) to throw it in as an argument for having a rich person's board.

MurdoMunro · 08/10/2024 23:10

DangerMouseAndPenfoldx · 08/10/2024 23:01

What’s the alternative that you would suggest? People above a certain income level should just be banned from posting?

Because it seems there is a problem with anyone with a higher income mentioning anything to do with it on general threads/topics and, judging by responses on this thread, no appetite to provide a separate area for discussion.

Not at all. Not one person has said ‘the wealthy may not speak’. I think what we are saying is that asking for a special place so high earners may speak separately from those of us on low, median, or even significantly above median incomes is pretty crass.

DangerMouseAndPenfoldx · 08/10/2024 23:15

MurdoMunro · 08/10/2024 23:10

Not at all. Not one person has said ‘the wealthy may not speak’. I think what we are saying is that asking for a special place so high earners may speak separately from those of us on low, median, or even significantly above median incomes is pretty crass.

But the reality is that anyone with a higher income can expect a pile on. It wasn’t the case a couple of years ago, but it is now, for exactly the reasons you state, and that I alluded to up-thread.

Personally I would just prefer better moderation, as several have suggested. But if that were the reality then a load of posts in this thread would have been deleted.

The alternative to moderation is a separate board or … what? What would you suggest?

maverickfox · 08/10/2024 23:15

DangerMouseAndPenfoldx · 08/10/2024 23:09

I don’t like the tiny violin posts myself but a lot of people are really struggling financially at the moment so it is hard to be sympathetic when you have very little to manage on.

No one is asking for sympathy though. Just for somewhere to discuss things without triggering other posters.

(It wasn’t my friend, it was the friend of another poster up-thread).

I didn’t mean offering sympathy. Perhaps I should have used receptive or open to discussion or something else entirely.

MurdoMunro · 08/10/2024 23:23

DangerMouseAndPenfoldx · 08/10/2024 23:15

But the reality is that anyone with a higher income can expect a pile on. It wasn’t the case a couple of years ago, but it is now, for exactly the reasons you state, and that I alluded to up-thread.

Personally I would just prefer better moderation, as several have suggested. But if that were the reality then a load of posts in this thread would have been deleted.

The alternative to moderation is a separate board or … what? What would you suggest?

I think you’ve nailed it. Better moderation. Pile ons aren’t a special pain to wealthy posters, fat women and women in receipt of benefits have had a right old bashing today for example.

DangerMouseAndPenfoldx · 08/10/2024 23:26

@MurdoMunro you make a good point.

BlueySchmooey · 08/10/2024 23:43

I think it's a good idea. There should be a space where high earners can discuss without snarky comments.

MetalGearSystem · 08/10/2024 23:48

MurdoMunro · 08/10/2024 23:10

Not at all. Not one person has said ‘the wealthy may not speak’. I think what we are saying is that asking for a special place so high earners may speak separately from those of us on low, median, or even significantly above median incomes is pretty crass.

but at the same time others have been quick to join threads in the already available topic groups and soon as some high earner asks about finances various people that cannot behave soon get the violins out, so its about time for better behaviour from the low earners too if they want the high earners to be more thoughtful with their questions

MetalGearSystem · 09/10/2024 02:29

Seems we have other people requestng boards, just remember back in the day they gave the topic sex its own board because people didnt want sex topics mixed with general threads, so if they can give sex its own board then why not finance

ahemfem · 09/10/2024 04:23

There is a whole topic for discussing Private Education yet all the posts about VAT seem to be being put in aibu

ahemfem · 09/10/2024 04:24

MetalGearSystem · 09/10/2024 02:29

Seems we have other people requestng boards, just remember back in the day they gave the topic sex its own board because people didnt want sex topics mixed with general threads, so if they can give sex its own board then why not finance

There is a topic for finance..

ChristmasFluff · 09/10/2024 05:57

ahemfem · 09/10/2024 04:23

There is a whole topic for discussing Private Education yet all the posts about VAT seem to be being put in aibu

Yeah, the high earners already monopolise AIBU, so I'm all for a board to keep them away from the rest of us, with their sneery '£400 is cheap for a watch' derailing comments. But MN needs to be more proactive in shifting stuff out of AIBU into the appropriate boards too.

settingz · 09/10/2024 06:55

ahemfem · 09/10/2024 04:23

There is a whole topic for discussing Private Education yet all the posts about VAT seem to be being put in aibu

‘Posting here for traffic’. Ok good luck with that…

NotTru · 09/10/2024 07:09

It won't work - you'll still get the comments, as this thread has shown. Especially if it ends up on 'trending' - it will then get treated as if it is in AIBU.

A lot of the threads where people get abuse seems to stem from overestimating the immediate lifestyle they expect from a higher salary and then moaning about it - especially first generation higher earners.

Most questions can be answered with some research and if not then financial advice and planning can be paid for, and probably should be.

settingz · 09/10/2024 07:16

NotTru · 09/10/2024 07:09

It won't work - you'll still get the comments, as this thread has shown. Especially if it ends up on 'trending' - it will then get treated as if it is in AIBU.

A lot of the threads where people get abuse seems to stem from overestimating the immediate lifestyle they expect from a higher salary and then moaning about it - especially first generation higher earners.

Most questions can be answered with some research and if not then financial advice and planning can be paid for, and probably should be.

It won't work - you'll still get the comments, as this thread has shown. Especially if it ends up on 'trending' - it will then get treated as if it is in AIBU.

Just shield it from showing up in active like they do with other boards.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 09/10/2024 07:22

So not only a separate board for high earners but a protected board 🤔

a board where if someone says they are playing a tiny violin they get ‘insta banned’

that would take a LOT more mods

BeatrizBoniface · 09/10/2024 07:23

Separate, shielded, protected...a sort of online gated community?

Swipe left for the next trending thread