Following on from the contact from "Lisa Johnson's representative" whoever that might be, and the request to remove a post here or potentially have my details requested in a legal manner (albeit they have my email anyway), I decided I would edit my post rather than delete it as a gesture of goodwill. However, Mumsnet said that the legal representative had not given permission for me to be in direct contact with them to discuss this, and Mumsnet are unable to edit the post for legal reasons, so it has been deleted and I'm reposting here instead. What follows is what I asked for my post to be edited to read:
This post was edited on March 30th 2024 in response to accusations by a representative of Lisa Johnson that elements of it were “incorrect … and often personal attacks” that had “negatively
affected the business both financially as well as personally”.
I do not accept any liability and strongly disagree that the information in the post was incorrect.
I deny that my post here was a personal attack; I maintain that it was a factual outlining of what happened and a record of my feelings and experiences of those happenings as expressed in my
honest opinion.
However, I have decided as a gesture of goodwill to edit some elements objected to, given that I have never had any intention to cause any distress or damage to Lisa Johnson either personally or as
a business.
I would like to make clear that I do not agree that anything in the post was incorrect, and to emphasise that the comments were always my honest opinion of my experience with Lisa Johnson,
and not in any way a personal attack, especially given I had repeatedly defended her to others on the original post and in PMs until the point at which my personal safety was threatened by Lisa Johnson’s actions, as detailed in this post.
I am glad that Lisa Johnson said on my original thread that it had brought 60 new sign-ups to her course as I was only ever seeking reviews of a course I had bought at a considerable investment of just under £2,000 and was looking forward to undertaking, until certain events meant it was no longer tenable for me to do the course, and this information reassures me that her business was not overly negatively affected financially, if so many new clients joined the course as a result of seeing it.
I had always intended to do the One to Many course until the point that this happened and I felt my working relationship with Lisa Johnson was no longer tenable, and that I had been given no choice
but to ask for a refund and no longer do the course.
Lisa Johnson is a successful businesswoman and an ambassador for the anti-bullying charity Bullies Out, and I am sure would like to move on from this just as much as I would.
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Hello, I'm the original OP from the LJ thread. I have been reading this one but wasn't going to comment given that the previous thread has been summarised well here by others, but it looks like there's some confusion/missing info regarding what happened with me and Lisa specifically, so...
I posted on MN to see if anyone could give me some reviews after not being able to find any. I was finding the RRR Facebook group very intense, very overly positive, full of the kind of infectious energy that can end up with people doing things they might later regret because they were caught up emotionally. I felt that Team LJ on there as well as other posters were curating that atmosphere and I wanted to just step outside it and check I was making a good decision in doing the course. I also thought it was really odd that there were no reviews of One to Many anywhere online.
I also posted in the RRR Facebook group after people were really negative on my thread here, and asked a question and said I was getting negative comments elsewhere. I had also asked one or two questions which LJ and team might have considered "tricky" as I wanted to do due diligence and I
felt the team was being evasive.
It's worth noting also that I had a call as offered with an alumni and felt it didn't answer any of my questions, I was just continually told "oh yes the course will answer that" which wasn't reassuring.
So, Lisa or her team were able to put two and two together and work out it was me on here. Lisa made that clear to me on my thread here and on the Facebook group through direct comments and by liking certain comments I made in her group.
It is important to note that on the thread here I defended Lisa a lot, and was even accused of working for Lisa or even actually being her (until she posted herself) and I had no issue with her at all until her behaviour around her lives and my identity, which was:
She posted a live in her main free FB group on a morning which I just happened to watch, in which she said along the lines of "I've had a hell of a week and I'll tell you all later on my live at 4pm". Her
tone was very much that it was a negative week, and I immediately thought she might be going to talk about my thread.
Lisa did not contact me. She knew who I was on Mumsnet, she was going to talk about my thread, and therefore it was very likely that thousands of people would then find the thread and could also identify me in real life like Lisa had done. But she didn't contact me.
Now, this actually wouldn't have been a huge issue were it not for the fact that I posted my thread here under the username I've had since joining Mumsnet, and which I've used to post some very
personal things.
Given that Lisa hadn't contacted me (she knew who I was remember) I was scared of what and how much she was going to say, and I contacted Mumsnet HQ who were amazing and changed my name on the thread to a generic one AND changed my name on all my old posts to something completely different, so there was no risk of screenshots or my username being said or posted and then linked to my previous posts.
I understand from other posters that this is very unusual and therefore highlights the danger HQ perceived me to be in.
Lisa did do a live, but it was on a private Facebook group so I couldn't/didn't see it. She also posted publicly as we all know.
She still didn't contact me despite being fully aware from my posts on the thread here how worried I was about jigsaw identification caused by whatever she might say.
I made it clear my concern was not a full on doxxing by Lisa, but jigsaw identification through people seeing me in her Facebook group and learning my username here.
Given that Lisa had done lives and posts about me without contacting me, despite me having defended her and said I wanted to do the course and that a friend had independently given me a review as I found out she had done the course (so I was still really positive about Lisa at that point) I
felt that our working relationship was now untenable and I posted that I planned to ask for a refund.
Lisa decided to preempt that by sending me a message on Facebook messenger rather than by email, telling me she was refunding me because I wasn't a good fit for her. Given that I had done noothing wrong, you can make of that what you will.
She did this at 9.20pm on a Friday night.
As I was writing a polite reply to her, she blocked me personally, and from all her groups, and either put me on a restricted list on her Facebook page so I could only see certain posts, or was using a different profile to post publicly about me and the thread, as I was aware posts were being made but was unable to see them.
She then posted on Facebook about how I was “swept up in negative hype” and that she had refunded me because she “cared” about me. Despite having not contacted me before posting about me, and then blocking me.
Lisa’s recollection of the timeline of events seems to differ from mine, which does cause some confusion (on both sides I’m sure) when interpreting intention, etc. It was never my intention to cause any confusion and I have at all times sought to be clear, honest and accurate in my postings.
Lisa Johnson has at all times had my contact information and I have always been open to having a conversation with her, however after she blocked me on Messenger I felt it was not appropriate for
me initiate contact with her so have left that ball in her court.
It is unfortunate that Lisa specifically talked about me in a Facebook post I was sent by another Mumsnetter, in such a way that anyone who did not know me would likely infer I was easily led, naïve, and unintelligent, none of which is true. This may not have been her intent, however I have been deeply upset by this especially as I was blocked from seeing it and defending myself.
I am aware that Lisa has subsequently deleted some posts and it may be that this was one of them; if so I am grateful that this untrue framing of my character is no longer in the public domain. If not, I would
hope that Lisa might reconsider whether that post is fair to me, and whether it might be better off deleted.
Perhaps those defending her on this thread should take a step back and think about what it's been like to be me going through this, before wholeheartedly defending someone when they aren't cognisant of all the facts.