Why did the "Lisa Johnson One to Many" thread get deleted?

[PermanentIyExhaustedPigeon]

I've seen the deletion message but don't understand why the comments that broke talk guidelines couldn't have been deleted and the rest of the thread left to stand.

Lisa Johnson claims that she had it removed because she put pressure on MN to do so.

Can anyone from MNHQ clarify please?

Yes, we have been given a view by people who have taken her courses.

And if you want "glee", how about Lisa bragging that she got the last thread taken down without spending any money?

I still don't think we have been given any view of what the course is like by anyone who has taken the course?

@OriginalOP started the first thread in order to find out if there were any negative reviews about OTM.

She couldn't find any.

It seemed unlikely that nobody had anything negative to say about it.

After seeing the comments about MN which LJ wrote on her FB page, and the speed with which they were deleted by their author, it seemed that only positive things were allowed to stay online and that it was likely that any negative feedback about OTM was not acceptable.

So by that logic anyone on this thread could start a post about you and review their interactions with you on Mumsnet?

Well, I personally don't run a business, so it would be pointless.
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That is against the TGs anyway.

Well, yes, if I had made myself the face of a brand that was charging people £2,000 a pop and kept going on about how people should act with integrity.

If I called myself a "Passive Income Queen" and people wondered about that, why should they not discuss it?

I think you are conflating two things here.

Lisa IS her business and espouses the virtues of being an anti-bullying crusader as an integral part of that business.

Calling people “uneducated, low-lifes on a gossip site” is, in my opinion, bullying and trolling.

That, for me, does not show integrity.

I understand what you are saying that calling people low-lifes is bullying and trolling. I don't disagree. However, what I find ironic is that more than one of the people on this thread who keeps referencing that 'situation' called those supporting Lisa 'flying monkeys' and 'a**e-lickers' on the original thread. The word minion came up as well.

If you are going to hold people to a certain standard and 'call them out' and 'review them' on that behaviour should you not be upholding that same standard yourself. You can't 'cry' about name calling when you've done exactly the same to other people on the same thread.

I agree.

The difference is, LJ is the only one that was on thread, as far as I can tell, that professes to be an anti-bullying campaigner.

It doesn’t excuse anybody else’s behaviour but LJ has positioned herself as a role model and therefore her behaviour should be exemplary.

I had not heard of LJ before January but I did the RRR challenge this year and loved it. I was even wavering about doing OTM.
I defended LJ in the early stages of the last thread but as LJ started to comment on her Facebook especially about getting the thread taken down, I thought less of her. I was quite shocked by the Princess Catherine post and now would not want to spend money on her course.
So really, it was her social media that put me off, not what I read here.

I do agree with what you are saying, and my feelings and reactions would definitely stay behind closed doors, but it doesn't mean that it wouldn't feel absolutely awful to be the subject of this kind of thread.
There is an aspect of my business that some people have an issue with and have sent me pms and commented on my posts. I try to explain my position factually and without emotion, I am not going to be able to change it to what they are wanting, even though I understand where they are coming from.
I hope no-one decides to run around bad mouthing me and slating my business, but if they do I will be very careful with how I respond, if I respond. Especially having seen how this all played out.

I hope no-one decides to run around bad mouthing me and slating my business, but if they do I will be very careful with how I respond, if I respond. Especially having seen how this all played out.

I hope that LJ also takes note about responding carefully and appropriately to criticism.

I also hope that some people on here will think about how they behave and discuss things in future

@Nik73 this thread keeps popping up in active conversations because you keep bumping it.

Im assuming she's a mate of yours, or you know her somehow and if it were me I'd be hoping you stopped bumping it to just constantly repeat the same stuff.

Lisa made a mistake. We're all human, it happens. But she took it too far in my opinion and that's shit, but this would have died days ago if it didn't keep getting needlessly bumped.

Let it gooooooooooo

No I am not her friend, and I only commented on it today for the first time ever, so you are wrong there.

@Nik73 it's just that the last three times I've seen this in active today you've been the last commenter.

I lose track of names on here but yours stood out my dog is a Niko.

Carry on, don't mind me I was just thinking out loud really.

This thread claims to be about 'Why' that thread got deleted but has again descended into another personal attack
Do report any personal attacks as they're against the TGs

If it was about why it was deleted, it should have ended when Mumsnet responded
Threads end when posters stop discussing the subject matter.

It seemed quite odd to me that in over 20 pages the replies were fine, then suddenly they weren't, just after a request to delete the thread was refused

Yes. I didn't see the last couple of pages but I was also surprised when the thread was deleted, and your explanation makes a lot of sense.

Huh?!