Why did the "Lisa Johnson One to Many" thread get deleted?

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I've seen the deletion message but don't understand why the comments that broke talk guidelines couldn't have been deleted and the rest of the thread left to stand.

Lisa Johnson claims that she had it removed because she put pressure on MN to do so.

Can anyone from MNHQ clarify please?

Bought, I think you know what I am asking!!
If you’ve not had any experience from completing or taking part in any part of her business I’m unsure how you can give any justified advice

I can't.
I can comment on her response to the OP of the first thread, though, which was not positive.

Oh come on. People can have valid opinions on a thing based on publically available facts and information. They don't need to have actually done/bought/experienced the thing itself to form an opinion on how the thing is presented, how the thing is marketed, how well the claims made for the thing stand up, how much evidence there is to support the claims made for the thing, how successful past purchasers of the thing have actually been etc etc.

@TheShellBeach don't be a grammar dick, it's a form of bullying and no need for it at all.

Actually you can give justified advice simply on the way she is recruiting her clients, which anyone can experience.
I have and my comments are based on that.

The point of asking outsiders is quite different from asking the person running the course.

The OP wanted to hear from people who had done the course. She heard various take on LJ. Some positive, some negatives. What tipped the balance was LJ answering herself and her behaviour when faced with ‘hostility’

It’s a very normal thing to do. That why i go on trustpilot before ordering something from a company I don’t know. Or I use Which? Etc…
Pretty standard behaviour no?

Sorry.

But that was one of the issues with the original thread. The OP wanted to hear from people who had done the course. That didn’t happen - anyone who expressed any positive experience was totally shot down.

I don't think that's really true, though.
I do think that things became fraught when Lisa insulted us all.

Recruited clients?

Can you explain what you mean?

I don’t want to get into a big row with People, I’m talking from experience.

if I was “recruited” to be a client then she’s done a good job, Lisa has marketed really well, showed me how she can solve a problem I had, which was to learn more about starting a business in the online world, to which she has followed through on. Everting she has taught me I have implemented and got new clients from and in return I now make a better income than I did as an employee working in corporate.

So from that good experience and results I have now invested in OTM because she sees through and over delivers

But the original post the person was asking if anyone on here had done OTM and if so how they found it, to which loads of people jumped on who had never done it to say it sounded “MLM”

Lisa didn’t insult anyone she came on to defend her course.

which I would the same. If I had created something I was proud of, worked hard on and new I could help people to then read lots of negative comments off people who nothing of the course and had not participated I would be upset to, would you not?

The thing is, @Carab13 it did sound rather like an MLM.

How?

MLM, multi level marketing

you sell a product
you recruit a team train them to do the same
you then train them people to build their own team
and so on

and you get paid on your down line

how is learning how to make a passive income multi level marketing?

It’s really getting quite tedious in here again. I don’t think there is any intention by the OP, or others in here to have a thread with a balanced view on this subject. There are clearly some people on this thread who have had and shared a positive experience (actually real life experience) of attending courses/memberships etc with Lisa Johnson. I am one of those people. Whilst this thread has been far more civil than the original thread, it’s clearly now down a cul de sac at the end of a one way street.

It’s resorting to petty arguments about semantics, grammar and who has the most screenshots. Some people are also apparently mortally offended and can’t let that go. Others are cross about the lack of negative reviews about Lisa and feel we are living in some dystopian ‘Lisa verse’ where she has managed to eliminate hundreds of disgruntled potential business owners.

i wish you all well and hope you find something more productive to do with your time in the future.

Bonsoir!

That’s not true at all. The posts and comments made by LJ on her fb page were generalised and derogatory, more than a few times, about mn posters on the thread.

Uneducated, jealous, sexist, ignorant failures, lowlifes, envious competitors, bullies, a hateful plague that spreads to you if you spend time with them, and so on.

Her comments were not directed at specific posters - it was generalised. The backtracking and handwaving away didn’t fly if you’d seen both the thread and the fb comments.

There were definitely some personal and unjustifiable attacks on her and her business on the mn thread, especially towards the end.

Turning up on the thread to comment, then misrepresenting it on her fb page, then blocking and refunding the OP and threatening legal action to force mn to disclose emails addresses, then claiming credit for getting the thread taken down… that was not a good look.

She’s not a scammer, and her business model is totally normal in that online area. But you might think twice about buying from her after that display.

That previous thread did turn nasty and people who were saying things that just weren’t true.

I know Lisa now enough to know her heart, morals and her business and through experience I trust her and what she teaches.

I wouldn’t and won’t think twice about buying from her now or in the future because of the real life experiences with her and how she has helped me with my business and development

like i said previously I don’t want to argue with people or for anything to get nasty I am speaking from my own experience

I know Lisa now enough to know her heart, morals and her business and through experience I trust her and what she teaches

But surely you disapproved of her attacks on the women of MN?

Ahh sorry yes, I think I read it wrong 👍

Lisa didn’t attack the mums of nm, she came in to defend her course that she has designed and is passionate about and was talking directly to those who were being negative

Again I’ll ask you if you had produced something you were proud of and you found out that there was a thread of lots people coming on and saying negative untrue things about and these people had no real knowledge of it, if your were passionate about it and believed what you had a produced was brilliant would you not defend it and ask for the false comments to be taken down?

The previous thread read as an attack on Lisa and her course

May I ask do you have a business?

May I ask do you have a business?

I do @Carab13 (with a 7 figure turnover) , and I can tell you, I would never behave in the manner in which Lisa has over something like this.

I started reading the first thread because I was genuinely interested to hear the replies to the OP. I googled Lisa and her One to Many course, and thought "good for her", it looks likes she's found her niche and is doing well.

The discussion around whether or not it was MLM was interesting, as were the deeper dives into her affiliates, but the way Lisa reacted was the most fascinating and eye opening.

Honestly @Carab13 , it really was unprofessional. I'm delighted for you that she's helped you so much and that you feel such loyalty to her, but I personally just wouldn't trust her now.

When you get negative feedback, true or not, you don't run off to your Facebook page and slag them off and threaten them with legal action. You suck it up and think of how you can win them over and make it better. I've had to do it myself.

It didn’t feel like that to me at all.

If that was the message she wanted to give, then she needs to work on the delivery. Because what I heard is someone firing with both pistols because someone on an anonymous forum dare saying something negative.

I mean she had a go at the OP who was actually defending her and was convinced that the OP was someone trying to attack her/her business. Meanwhile quite a few posters though the OP was actually one if her crew trying to attract more clients 😂😂

If she had taken the time to read properly, she’d have saved a lot of good will imo.

As for the rest if her reaction, the posts on her FB group etc… that was even more unprofessional imo. Even if I had wanted to do her course, no way I’d forget the ‘lowlife’ comment (that was aimed at all of us, MNtters)

The ‘anonymous’ part of it is rather unfair though don’t you think.

Anonymous people on here were dragging her name and her business through the mud. Not just her but her affiliates too. Naming them. Making some false accusations. People who, by their own admission, had no previous knowledge of her. No experience of working with her. Hadn’t done any of her courses. Whether that was fair or not is a matter of opinion as we have seen. IMO What started out as fair request for help from people who had done the course turned into a witch hunt with people jumping on a band wagon.

And yet when she retaliates and calls that behaviour out it’s ‘unjust’ and ‘uncalled for’. Pretty sure if they weren’t hiding behind anonymity she would have named them. But at the same time if they weren’t hiding behind an anonymity I doubt they would have actually made those comments in the first place.

Guaranteed she and her team are regretting she didn’t just sit on her hands in the first place.

The moment she turned up on that thread to post it was not going to end well. There’s no way to do that with dignity and professionalism.

The downturn really set in once she posted on her FB page calling sexism (which really was not a factor on the thread) and using it as a lever to make content for her fans to gather around.

Neither of those were smart moves, and it escalated from there. No amount of doubling down and getting snippy undoes that slide once you jump in and get your hands dirty.