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Hatred towards social housing tenants on here getting worse.

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JenniferBooth · 17/12/2023 13:51

And really nasty and out of control Here is one example but there have been many

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4964096-to-still-feel-slightly-bitter-about-this-inheriting-social-housing?page=1

There have been a few threads in the last week alone. Its like this is a nice safe little prejudice that the social housing haters can enjoy with no comebacks.

To still feel slightly bitter about this? (Inheriting social housing) | Mumsnet

I grew up in a two bed council house with my mother (single parent) and my sister in what could now be considered a highly gentrified area within walk...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4964096-to-still-feel-slightly-bitter-about-this-inheriting-social-housing?page=1

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JenniferBooth · 18/12/2023 18:52

@tiggergoesbounce Exactly i dont blame the tenants already in bungalows for the fact that there is a shortage. But there are plenty on here who blame tenants

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Holiday224 · 18/12/2023 19:44

It's extremely hard to get social housing now. Depending on the area . The Wait for social housing is many years that could be 10+ years. Many people are in temporary accommodation for years . It's not a pleasant journey, theses places are often mouldy, rats, mice , bed bugs, there's no room for children to play, or do home work. You can get moved from one temporary to another often sharing facilities with strangers. It's pretty awful.

Some people do get housed faster. Possibly disabled/ill people. And people under life in danger .

Others only see people being handed a social housing house . They don't see what that family has been through. I doubt many people would cope.

Christingle123 · 18/12/2023 19:58

I don't think they're lucky at all. I wouldn't live in SH if you could give me a house tomorrow.

I grew up on a council estate and couldn't wait to get out of there!

I do think people need a little help sometimes but the majority of people seeking SH really ought to help themselves.

Candycurrantbun · 18/12/2023 20:02

Christingle123 · 18/12/2023 19:58

I don't think they're lucky at all. I wouldn't live in SH if you could give me a house tomorrow.

I grew up on a council estate and couldn't wait to get out of there!

I do think people need a little help sometimes but the majority of people seeking SH really ought to help themselves.

Help themselves how?

roarrfeckingroar · 18/12/2023 20:09

@Candycurrantbun yes they pay rent but it's low, subsidised by tax payers. No one has said people in SH don't pay tax but they're unlikely to be net contributors.

JenniferBooth · 18/12/2023 20:10

roarrfeckingroar · 18/12/2023 20:09

@Candycurrantbun yes they pay rent but it's low, subsidised by tax payers. No one has said people in SH don't pay tax but they're unlikely to be net contributors.

Yeah i guess delivering middle class people their shit during the lockdowns doesnt count.

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Candycurrantbun · 18/12/2023 20:20

JenniferBooth · 18/12/2023 20:10

Yeah i guess delivering middle class people their shit during the lockdowns doesnt count.

Or cleaning their houses or looking after their kids in nursery or all the other jobs they do that make their high flying jobs possible.

Holiday224 · 18/12/2023 20:27

roarrfeckingroar · 18/12/2023 20:09

@Candycurrantbun yes they pay rent but it's low, subsidised by tax payers. No one has said people in SH don't pay tax but they're unlikely to be net contributors.

(Example) 3 he'd SH rent 500 a month . Person is working pays full rent... that causes upset because a private renter is paying 2000 a month.

(Example) 3 bed SH rent 500 a month . Part time work. Or maybe not working... full rent paid by UC. Causes upset because they are not paying rent . Whilst private renter is paying 2000

(Example) no SH. 3 bed private rent 2000 a month . Full time worker , entitled to help with rent due to the expense. Part time/non worker rent of 2000 paid by UC. Causes upset because the tax payer is paying towards the rent.

So how do low income workers, or people who can't work Keep a roof over their heads without upsetting anyone 🤔

Comedycook · 18/12/2023 20:30

Candycurrantbun · 18/12/2023 20:20

Or cleaning their houses or looking after their kids in nursery or all the other jobs they do that make their high flying jobs possible.

Because of course, anyone who lives in private rented accommodation or owns is extremely rich and works in a high flying job 🙄

HelloNeighbour2021 · 18/12/2023 20:31

I am very thankful for my social house and appreciate the security and low rent charge, my mum moved into it in 1986 and since all my siblings moved out, she felt the house was too big for her so we both did a house swap just over a year ago, now I’m back home raising my family in the house I was born in. I hope to be here for the rest of my years.

I do feel for all those on the waiting list!

Comedycook · 18/12/2023 20:32

HelloNeighbour2021 · 18/12/2023 20:31

I am very thankful for my social house and appreciate the security and low rent charge, my mum moved into it in 1986 and since all my siblings moved out, she felt the house was too big for her so we both did a house swap just over a year ago, now I’m back home raising my family in the house I was born in. I hope to be here for the rest of my years.

I do feel for all those on the waiting list!

Thats nice. I had to sell the home I grew up in and was living in, in order to pay inheritance tax

Candycurrantbun · 18/12/2023 20:34

roarrfeckingroar · 18/12/2023 20:09

@Candycurrantbun yes they pay rent but it's low, subsidised by tax payers. No one has said people in SH don't pay tax but they're unlikely to be net contributors.

If the rents on SH were higher then it would cost the 'tax payer' much more in HB. Do you mind paying your tax towards the HB that many private renters claim going to private landlords or is it just SH that you don't want to subsidise?

Ap24 · 18/12/2023 20:52

I just think people are angry in general and don't have a clue what they want. Landlords are ripped to pieces and labelled as parasites, but those commenting never have a legitimate alternative or solution. If your in social housing then you will always be told there's someone more deserving than you. No one wants/can afford to pay more in tax to build new housing and they definitely don't want it built near their home. They also don't want the value of their home to go down but seem obvious to the fact that a shortage of homes has contributed to the value increase.

VeronicaSawyer89 · 18/12/2023 21:08

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They're not a taxpayer-subsidised resource, most SH tenants live in homes owned by housing associations which are charities, nothing to do with the government and council. There are some council houses left be they're so few I doubt your precious taxes pay for any of it. Btw, I'm very resentful of you using medical services and public services that MY taxes pay for, with that awful attitude of yours.

VeronicaSawyer89 · 18/12/2023 21:09

Comedycook · 18/12/2023 20:32

Thats nice. I had to sell the home I grew up in and was living in, in order to pay inheritance tax

So, you're privileged enough to inherit enough money to have to pay inheritance tax. How utterly awful for you. Would you like us to have a whip round for you?

VeronicaSawyer89 · 18/12/2023 21:11

Holiday224 · 18/12/2023 20:27

(Example) 3 he'd SH rent 500 a month . Person is working pays full rent... that causes upset because a private renter is paying 2000 a month.

(Example) 3 bed SH rent 500 a month . Part time work. Or maybe not working... full rent paid by UC. Causes upset because they are not paying rent . Whilst private renter is paying 2000

(Example) no SH. 3 bed private rent 2000 a month . Full time worker , entitled to help with rent due to the expense. Part time/non worker rent of 2000 paid by UC. Causes upset because the tax payer is paying towards the rent.

So how do low income workers, or people who can't work Keep a roof over their heads without upsetting anyone 🤔

I think @roarrfeckingroar would love to bring back the workhouses to house the great unwashed.

AllIsWellish · 18/12/2023 21:17

The house I'm in was built before the war it's been owned by the council forever. I doubt the tax payers paying anything towards it after all these years 🙄

Comedycook · 18/12/2023 21:20

VeronicaSawyer89 · 18/12/2023 21:09

So, you're privileged enough to inherit enough money to have to pay inheritance tax. How utterly awful for you. Would you like us to have a whip round for you?

Yes so privileged to lose my remaining parent in my early twenties...my other died when I was a child. Then I lost the only home I'd known....oh and the estate agent came round the morning after my dad died. Yeah so fucking privileged. But yay for the social housing tenant who gets to stay in their family home which none of them even own.

JenniferBooth · 18/12/2023 21:24

Comedycook · 18/12/2023 20:30

Because of course, anyone who lives in private rented accommodation or owns is extremely rich and works in a high flying job 🙄

Nobody said that This is just pure obfuscation. Because private tenants dont get the hate that SH tenants get

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JenniferBooth · 18/12/2023 21:26

Comedycook · 18/12/2023 21:20

Yes so privileged to lose my remaining parent in my early twenties...my other died when I was a child. Then I lost the only home I'd known....oh and the estate agent came round the morning after my dad died. Yeah so fucking privileged. But yay for the social housing tenant who gets to stay in their family home which none of them even own.

Most people who have gone through an awful tragedy like that (and it is horrific) would not wish the same homelessness to happen for the same reason to others just because they are social housing tenants. You come across as the opposite though

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Wassupppp · 18/12/2023 21:30

I'm bitter about some HA tenants, particularly my neighbours who are long standing tenants, in a lovely 3 bed semi (just the two of them) and who spend a month each spring and a month each September in their property in Spain..... How lovely that they have limited maintenance costs on their property, pay below market rate rents, are in a secure tenancy and presumably those savings have afforded them the abilty to buy a property abroad.

Twoshoesnewshoes · 18/12/2023 21:31

Candycurrantbun · Today 20:20

JenniferBooth · Today 20:10

Yeah i guess delivering middle class people their shit during the lockdowns doesnt count.
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Or cleaning their houses or looking after their kids in nursery or all the other jobs they do that make their high flying jobs possible.

wow
i’m staggered by this comment.
do you really honestly believe that everyone on a lower wage is in SH and everyone who isn’t is wealthy? The point that we’re making here is that there is not enough SH for those who need it, let alone those who would like it.
I earned minimum wage for years and rented. I have cleaned people’s houses and looked after their kids - where’s my cheap housing then??

Comedycook · 18/12/2023 21:33

JenniferBooth · 18/12/2023 21:26

Most people who have gone through an awful tragedy like that (and it is horrific) would not wish the same homelessness to happen for the same reason to others just because they are social housing tenants. You come across as the opposite though

But when social housing tenants die and their tenancy is passed on, apparently that is great, afteral it's their family home and there's an emotional connection to it and how could they possibly be expected to live anywhere else. Meanwhile someone can own their own property and their family is turfed out so the government can take a share and they are apparently incredibly privileged. How fucked up is that?

NearlyMonday · 18/12/2023 21:34

The biggest mistake was the "right to buy" which just depleted housing stock, leading to the booming exploitative private rental market.

So true

JenniferBooth · 18/12/2023 21:35

@Comedycook It IS fucked up So publicise it Social media has been there for long enough.

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