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Is there just less content being posted now?

191 replies

partystress · 18/06/2022 03:08

Been a MNer for 16 years I think. For the first time ever, I’m finding nothing to read. The same threads hang around for days and days. Active is a longer list than it used to be, but seems to have threads that have not been added to.

I will keep popping in because FWR is so informative, but I no longer feel this is somewhere to come for entertainment or amusement. (Although I did lol at Frubes for the fanjo yesterday!)

OP posts:
LondonWolf · 18/06/2022 12:36

If it's any comfort, @LondonWolf, I always find your posts very insightful. Love to see your name pop up on a thread cos I know you're going to bring some sense!

@IllDoItButOnlyForTheAttention that's very kind of you to say. I tend to avoid ongoing scraps on here - no value in it - will drop out once things look like they might reach boiling point, but sometimes i just cannot let the more unfair and damaging rhetoric go unchallenged. I like your username btw, made me Grin. Reminds me of an old friend of mine who seemed to have that as her motto in life and was huge fun.

JaneJeffer · 18/06/2022 19:12

The troll situation is so bad that I just think 'you again' at 90% of new threads.

Badger1970 · 18/06/2022 19:17

I've noticed that the content seems less.

The quoting thing really pisses me off, you end up with pages of threads when people quote a post and then several replies to it. It's too clumbersome to read, and the moment I see several of them, I back out the thread.

Some of the updates are good, but that ain't one of em!

User4387075 · 18/06/2022 19:24

The quoting thing is terrible, so difficult to work out who said what, when

Blusteryday101 · 18/06/2022 19:34

User4387075 · 18/06/2022 19:24

The quoting thing is terrible, so difficult to work out who said what, when

I'm relieved I'm not the only one who thinks that!

Also, sadly, it seems that there are a certain faction of people on Mumsnet nowadays (are they men?) who hang about on threads and pick fights and relish a ding dong fight back and forth. It's as if their sole purpose is to goad someone in to submission. Really unpleasant and nasty. There were genuine blow ups and disagreements in the past but not so calculated and malevolent as now.

FiveShelties · 18/06/2022 23:13

Yes, the quoting thing is awful, I don't read those now as I have no idea who said what.

Sparklingbrook · 18/06/2022 23:18

I'm pretty sure the quoting thing was continually asked for as an essential requirement, because 'all the other sites have it'. I think it's only a matter of time before the Like button arrives, and it can be just like the Daily Mail.

Nopenah · 18/06/2022 23:38

Been a member for years but I spend way less time on here and rarely post in comparison. I spend more time on Reddit now tbh.

The technical issues are excruciating. As is the general format / layout of the conversations where it's impossible to keep track of things because there are no clear threads.

It also feels with a lot of subjects a bit like... what's the point? Relationships = LTB. Step-parents = YABU. Pets = adopt. Weightloss = low carb vs anti low carb. Style & Beauty = whatever the new Boden or Hush is, probably fucking COS or even worse the "wear what makes you happy who cares?"

It's like god forbid you got your pet off gumtree or you smoke or you didn't get vaccinated or you think a relationship might be worth saving. There is 80% "the MN answer" and 20% of people who think differently and eventually give up.

But mostly the fact it's like something from 2005 and whatever technical updates they're doing only seem to make it worse.

There's a part of me that suspects most of the interesting threads are being started by employees...

JaneJeffer · 18/06/2022 23:44

The quote thing doesn't work on the app, just to add to the confusion!

TickyTok · 18/06/2022 23:57

Seymour5 · 18/06/2022 06:58

There also seem to be more posters who start threads, never to be seen on the thread again, after others have responded. Bad manners, or simply didn’t like the responses?

Agree to this! A much higher number of fast moving threads are trolls so even if you went into the trouble of writing a reply, it would be deleted anyway. Out of the few real threads, most OPs never come back to update and it degenerates into a 2-3 users bickering about some tangential issue.

I miss those "everyday oddity" threads that seem to have disappeared entirely. You know the ones where someone found a weird symbol on their door, or heard a strange noise or have a houseguest who refuses to leave. Those were all over MN 3 years ago and lightheartedly entertaining with the excitement of getting real-time updates.

Sparklingbrook · 19/06/2022 00:07

The best threads lately IMO were the Jubilee watch along ones.So everyone watching the concert and then the parade the next day, commenting as it went along, they were great. Nobody had an agenda, just chatting and drinking and no controversy.
Reminded me of the 2012 Olympic opening/closing ceremony ones that were the same. Just fun.

JaneJeffer · 19/06/2022 00:09

@TickyTok you must have missed this one http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4566184-gardener-moved-in

JaneJeffer · 19/06/2022 00:11

Although the OP disappeared!

AuntTwacky · 19/06/2022 00:18

Active is always mostly baby name and feminism threads these days

walkersareback · 19/06/2022 00:19

How do you hide a whole topic please?

AmberLynn1536 · 19/06/2022 00:23

User4387075 · 18/06/2022 19:24

The quoting thing is terrible, so difficult to work out who said what, when

Agree the nesting quotes thing is awful, I can’t keep track of who said what. Threads don’t ‘take off’ like they used to, I used to love to settle down to a long thread but they don’t seem to happen much now. The constant deleting of threads is even more annoying now we don’t even get a deletion message.

minipie · 19/06/2022 00:23

FinanceLPlates · 18/06/2022 08:20

I have noticed this too. It’s a combination of things I think:
The site relaunch has made MN more cumbersome to use (to post and to read).
Maybe the world feels more scary and depressing and some of the content and tone reflects that.

What can we do? I think it would be a shame to let MN die like a high street where more and more shops are boarded up and only dubious characters like to hang out looking for a fight.

@MNHQ I realise the relaunch of a site with lots of complex legacy code is no picnic. I’m getting used to the new look and I know you’re working on bug fixes and improvements. For me, these are the top priorities that affect how much I post, and read:

  • Server slow. This happens especially at what I imagine is peak time (evenings). Can’t post, time-outs
  • page keeps refreshing. This is annoying when reading, but “fatal” when trying to post. Have lost several half-written posts that way! Then not bothered to write it all again. This seems to be connected to ad reloads?

This.

Lots of things I might have posted, but haven’t because of these issues.

If it’s the same for many then that’s going to affect content pretty fast.

Also, the pile on culture. Nasty.

AuntTwacky · 19/06/2022 00:26

walkersareback · 19/06/2022 00:19

How do you hide a whole topic please?

Just click on the side arrow and the option to hide will come up

AmberLynn1536 · 19/06/2022 00:30

I posted on a thread earlier and yes it’s gone just because the OP stamped her foot and didn’t like the replies, there was some really good advice that would have helped others, I don’t know why I bother posting, it seems you can get your thread deleted whenever you like now, need to find another site.

AmberLynn1536 · 19/06/2022 00:33

And @mnhq they don’t even have the curtesy to leave a deletion message the thread is just gone.

cstaff · 19/06/2022 00:42

I just wrote a long comment on a thread about a father's day present and step child but it just refused to post so I have now deleted it which is such a waste of time, and now I am wondering if this one will make it on. Here goes...

cstaff · 19/06/2022 00:46

The other thing that is driving me insane is when you bookmark the last Post you have read on a thread and the next time you come onto that thread you are left at page 1 post 1. Infuriating..

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 19/06/2022 00:50

I’m struggling with my post disappearing mid type. I have resorted to copying some of the tv ones as I go along. Others? If they disappear I lose the will.

I may just be fed up but I see potential hairy hands a lot. Usually the subject matter will get my prongs out, but there are phrases/words/writing styles that scream to me it is someone who isn’t being entirely truthful. If three or more gems appear in the first paragraph, I don’t bother.

partystress · 19/06/2022 00:55

Really interesting range of reasons why people are spending less time and feeling less engaged. I wonder how much is within MNHQ’s gift to change? The tech stuff, obvs, but the general tone and feel of the place? Would a different approach to moderation help I wonder? Could the days of (mostly) good humour, wit and support be revived, or is it just an inevitable evolution of online spaces that they kind of degrade?

OP posts:
GirlDownUnder22 · 19/06/2022 00:58

SpinningRoundRightRound · 18/06/2022 09:15

[MNHQ] used to be very good at getting the balance right and foster a culture of witty grown-up discussion

I agree, @FinanceLPlates. I could be wrong, but I'm kind of detecting the 'feel' of some different pairs of hands making some of the moderating decisions since the big platform switch.

I was just thinking the other day that MN now often comes across as a bunch of unpleasant people arguing joylessly and weirdly about crap. Making a contribution on a thread should not make a poster feel like they're being aggressively tailgated. In this atmosphere - and let's not forget the drafted posts that disappear in a cloud of ad-loading - posters who have wit, writing skills and literary grace are hardly going to bother.

I agree with this. MNHQ are responsible for setting the tone of the site and they don't seem to have the same approach they used to.

I'm on an Australian parenting site (everybump) and the mods are really good at keeping nastiness at bay, but it takes time and effort, maybe MNHQ is lacking staff at the moment?