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My data has been breached

261 replies

Simbaya · 07/06/2022 16:05

Respond please.

OP posts:
notstaying · 08/06/2022 10:36

FlibbertyGiblets · 08/06/2022 10:32

Notstaying I am so sorry, mate. I hope as you do, that there are no RL consequences from this event for you.

Thanks. It is so awful. I can't believe that this has happened.

notstaying · 08/06/2022 10:41

@AuntieStella I agree with you. My comments were not deleted. I have never had a comment deleted. You can still get comments reported, especially if you are talking about a controversial subject on feminism or politics. Some people report just because they do not like what you said. Those people now have my identifiable email address.

BenCoopersSupportWren · 08/06/2022 10:42

SlatsandFlaps · 07/06/2022 22:07

It wouldn't bother me at all to be honest because I've nothing to hide!

I'm also not fussed about being outed 🤷🏼‍♀️ Just doesn't bother me personally at all.

It's not about 'having nothing to hide'. If someone who took a warped dislike to you for any reason decided to dig, putting together information about you from your email address, your MN posts and any other information they could glean from your online footprint, before long you could find yourself answering the door to pizza deliveries at 1.00am, having the police called to your house on spurious reports of someone having seen a firearm...whatever their twisted mind could think of to make life as difficult as possible for you, And the fact you lived a blameless life wouldn't make a gnat's ass of a difference to them.

Can you really not understand how an email address - especially an email address that immediately links someone to what could be a series of revealing posts about their life, their problems, maybe their location - is a piece of the jigsaw these people use to disrupt their targeted victims? Why do you think data protection is taken so seriously and there are sanctions for breaching personal data, which includes email addresses?

notstaying · 08/06/2022 10:44

MNSureIsBreachin · 07/06/2022 23:26

So in 7 or so hours only 20 people had their posts reported to be affected by this?

I don't believe the 20 people. I know three people including me affected by this.

Whinge · 08/06/2022 10:46

saraclara · 08/06/2022 10:35

(Who you choose to believe is of course, your choice.)

Wow. I'm hazarding a guess that you don't have a PR person looking over your responses before you press send, @JustineMumsnet
That kind of passive aggressiveness is really bad look, however frustrating it must be to be dealing with this.

Agreed. Justine's comments have been really unprofessional.

notstaying · 08/06/2022 10:50

@SlatsandFlaps Nothing to hide?
So you don't care that someone who has an axe to grind against you knows how you have struggled with your 7 year old who is still wetting the bed? Or that they can link to your real-life 10 year old and read all about the bullying they experienced? Or comments where you think you messed up in your parenting?
Or comments about how shitty your sister was to you when you were breastfeeding?
I have discussed normal parenting issues on this site. But they are absolutely private and I would NEVER have talked about them if I was identifiable. My children do not need other people to know identifiable information about them. That would be humiliating and distressing for them.
MN is useless as a parenting site if privacy is not guaranteed. If all you are going to talk about are toilet brushes and TV stars then it is just a gossip site for bored housewives and I would never have joined in the first place.

FlibbertyGiblets · 08/06/2022 10:53

notstaying · 08/06/2022 10:41

@AuntieStella I agree with you. My comments were not deleted. I have never had a comment deleted. You can still get comments reported, especially if you are talking about a controversial subject on feminism or politics. Some people report just because they do not like what you said. Those people now have my identifiable email address.

Wait, what? I thought it was the deletion that triggered the inappropriate disclosure of the poster's email, that just a reported post was not involved. OMG.

Will have to go back through the threads and clarify, I expect I am misremembering.

notstaying · 08/06/2022 10:53

This reply has been deleted

This has been withdrawn by MNHQ at the poster's request.

I agree. If you don't care use your real name as your user name.
Except virtually no one does. Which shows they do care about privacy here.

SolasAnla · 08/06/2022 10:55

SpinstileTurnstile · 08/06/2022 10:22

Perhaps MN needs to clearly state that when new users register, explaining that previous data breaches have occurred.

And have that prominently displayed somewhere on the site.

Something like this has never happened with my bank. How could it? I don’t report other customers.

Lots of banks have data breaches from wrong addresses on envelopes, to leaving laptops on public transport etc.

Any organisations can have data breaches, so care is needed before signing up, but once the data is transferred it is out of your control. People need to understand that using the same ID to access your sensitive personal data eg your bank account while publishing personal data across multiple sites which can be collated is in itself a security risk.

People should work on the assumption that their data will be subject to a data breach at some stage.

FlibbertyGiblets · 08/06/2022 11:01

My mistake. Reported posts not deleted ones. Sorry.

BenCoopersSupportWren · 08/06/2022 11:06

@JustineMumsnet, for the love of God, please stop posting. You look more unprofessional and passive aggressive with every comment.

It doesn't matter if the OP is Hitler reincarnated. As a user of the site, s/he is entitled to the same data protection as the reincarnation of Mother Theresa. Reposting deleted comments when there are other ways of reassuring site users that there was no malicious intent and of contacting the OP is snide, immature and gobsmackingly unprofessional. This isn't the twee 'round the kitchen table' amateur operation any more, it's a multi-million pound business and as the CEO, you're damaging your brand by acting like an aggrieved sixth-former when the fact is it's YOUR IT fuck-up (again!) that has potentially placed users of your site at risk.

At the very least you should replace the post in which you quote the OP's comments with the "message deleted - quotes deleted post" standard MN moderation message while you concentrate on putting in place the necessary measures to minimise the chance of this happening again. I recommend a thorough overhaul of your database structure and employing some system testers who know what they're doing.

RJnomore1 · 08/06/2022 11:12

Given Justine herself had aSWAT team sent to her home a few years back, you’d really expect a different approach to this.

And no posting the comments is in no way reassuring there wasn’t a malicious report. But even if it was cast iron proof, it doesn’t make least bit of difference. People have personal information they shouldn’t and MNHQ has no idea what they may choose to do with it.

RandomUser10093 · 08/06/2022 11:28

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RandomUser10093 · 08/06/2022 11:42

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JaneJeffer · 08/06/2022 11:50

If @MNHQ had heeded their Irish and Northern Irish posters this thread would not exist as this OP would have been banned a long time ago. Instead they were allowed to run riot derailing threads despite numerous deletions and now here we are.

kittensinthekitchen · 08/06/2022 12:04

in my view our priority is to the people viewing this thread and clearing up things that could cause alarm.

None of that of course is anyway mitigates the fact we should not have breached anyone's details on monday pm and that we have a duty to protect all users' data

These two statements seem rather at odds with each other. "We're sorry, but..."

@JustineMumsnet

Again, can you confirm exactly how many people's email address were given out? And is @Simbaya the only user who was identified to multiple people?

JaneJeffer · 08/06/2022 12:06

I made a thread in Craicnet to let everyone know about this and it went poof. I'm beginning to think the OP works for MN.

JaneJeffer · 08/06/2022 12:07

@MNHQ why did you delete my thread without letting me know and for what reason?

BoreOfWhabylon · 08/06/2022 12:11

JaneJeffer · 08/06/2022 11:50

If @MNHQ had heeded their Irish and Northern Irish posters this thread would not exist as this OP would have been banned a long time ago. Instead they were allowed to run riot derailing threads despite numerous deletions and now here we are.

Yup

BoreOfWhabylon · 08/06/2022 12:12

I expect it will be because it was a TAAT, Jane

JellyMonger · 08/06/2022 12:13

Is Justine trying to devalue Mumsnet for some reason? The way it is being run recently is how I'd go about it if I needed to devalue a business for some reason.

MNSureIsBreachin · 08/06/2022 12:13

notstaying · 08/06/2022 10:44

I don't believe the 20 people. I know three people including me affected by this.

No I don’t believe them either but they’re sticking to that story. I’m sorry this happened to you

JaneJeffer · 08/06/2022 12:13

Thanks @BoreOfWhabylon that's probably why. Amazing how they spotted it so quickly!

BoreOfWhabylon · 08/06/2022 12:15

I expect MNHQ is keeping a close eye on this thread Jane. I know I would be Grin

kimblerk · 08/06/2022 12:50

@JustineMumsnet did you just say your priority is keeping the readers of this thread informed (we didn’t need to be informed of OP’s deleted posts, why would we?!) rather than the OP who has had her personal details emailed to strangers?! Fucking hell