war topic

[Samcro]

any chance of a covid style war topic for all the "are we going to war " threads please.

@AlexaShutUp

Can you imagine reading this if you have anxiety? Nonsense like this could actually drive people to suicidal thoughts.

And yet you thought it appropriate to reproduce it here @AdobeWanKenobi?

We should all be reporting posts where we feel that they are inappropriate. However, I think there is also an onus on people to take some responsibility for managing their own activities online. If you have a tendency to suffer from anxiety, for example, it's probably best to scroll on past the threads discussing nuclear war. You don't have to click on them.

Yes. Because this is a topic about exactly that kind of post. It's headed 'War Topic'. It's a perfect illustration of why it needs to be seperate.

And can you not understand that even topic titles can be massively triggering for some people? Let alone having to actually open the thread to hide it where you can invariably read at least some of the OP?

You do have to click on them because thats the only way of actually hiding them!

@Samcro

i can hide treads without opening them, just hidden about 5 more. although saying that its harder when not on the pc. why do people see having a topic as censoring`? its just putting it in a topic.

I can hide threads via the three dots without clicking on them when I browse the desktop site via my iPhone, however, the desktop site on iPad and Safari on my Mac only gives the option to actually click onto the thread to hide.

I’m using safari but with voiceover. Whatever means there are to hide a thread are inaccessible with voiceover.

Actually now I think we need a bloody topic so I can hide the whole thing and report everything which isn’t posted there so HQ can move it.

I don’t suffer with anxiety. I do however have a strong compulsion to click on any of these fearmongering threads and tell people to get a fucking grip.

We really need a war topic.

Loads of threads about people thinking about whether it's safe for their kids to go to school or not, or If we should be building nuclear bunkers.

So I don't have to wade through 450+ posts above, PLEASE, for the love of Mike, can someone tell me if MNHQ has opened a separate war topic yet?

I must have twenty or thirty threads hidden. I am seriously considering leaving Mumsnet and all the support it has for me as a new mother, because my anxiety is through the roof everytime I see a new thread. I understand that some people thrive on information and conversation, and (maybe) some people love the drama. But for me, just the titles cause me to feel an overwhelming sense of panic. And when it late with a night feed and I just want somewhere to go and have a mindless read, having those panic attacks causes even more sleepless nights.

@Fernandina

So I don't have to wade through 450+ posts above, PLEASE, for the love of Mike, can someone tell me if MNHQ has opened a separate war topic yet?

No they haven't.

Vote for war topic too.

4 out of the 5 trending posts are on the topic at the moment

@CaptaNoctem

Vote for war topic too.

4 out of the 5 trending posts are on the topic at the moment

At least one of which is a TAAT as well as being disturbing and based on alarmist premises.

Yes agree with a war topic please.

Have found a way to hide the threads but I agree with PP, I’m considering leaving mn over these threads, not because of anxiety but because MN has become like a nuclear war discussion site. it’s far far worse than either COVID or Brexit ever were.

I think we should be aware that there might be bots and media trying to scare people. And no I'm not paranoid, this is me thinking rationally here.😭

premises. - I apologise for failing to spot the auto-correct that is determined to present me to the world as a nincompoop. That should have been premisses as I typed…

@AlternativePerspective

Have found a way to hide the threads but I agree with PP, I’m considering leaving mn over these threads, not because of anxiety but because MN has become like a nuclear war discussion site. it’s far far worse than either COVID or Brexit ever were.

Why don't you just hide AIBU and Chat where most of the threads are located? As a temporary measure, it might help to fix the problem for you?

Oh my gawd you can't get away from them, it's getting a bit ridiculous now.

I can roll my eyes at them but for some posters on here it must be very frightening.

Def time for their own board where they can wallow in it till their hearts content.

Why don't you just hide AIBU and Chat where most of the threads are located? As a temporary measure, it might help to fix the problem for you?
or why don't mn hq create a topic?
or should users who don' want to join in the scaremongering be sidelined.

Why don't you just hide AIBU and chat
I already have AIBU hidden. Doesn't stop them constantly appearing in 'trending' though. And if I hide Chat as well, it will be a waste of time coming on MN.

@LilyMumsnet Please please can we have a war topic now?

@Samcro

Why don't you just hide AIBU and Chat where most of the threads are located? As a temporary measure, it might help to fix the problem for you? or why don't mn hq create a topic? or should users who don' want to join in the scaremongering be sidelined.

Well, if they're going to leave MN anyway, being sidelined isn't really the issue, is it?

On the one hand, people are complaining that, once again, Chat and AIBU are being dominated by one specific subject that is currently in the news. Previously it was Brexit, then Covid. Now Ukraine. Clearly, this reflects the fact that there are lots of MNers who want to talk about this subject, which is why those threads are dominating right now. But instead of just removing themselves from those threads and focusing on the specific topics that they want to discuss, they want everyone else to be removed instead. Why is it sidelining to suggest that others focus on the specific topics that interest them, but not sidelining to suggest that users who do want to talk about the current situation should be tidied away onto a specific board? It isn't actually the case that you have any objections to sidelining groups of MNers per se. You just think that the people who should be sidelined are the ones who want to discuss the topics that you don't want to talk about.

I do agree that there are too many scaremongering threads on here today, and lots of them are ridiculous, but you don't have to read them. I just don't bother opening the sillier ones. If the thread titles alone were upsetting me, I would just hide the miscellaneous threads for a while. They're full of war related topics right now anyway, so you won't miss much, and if you want to talk about other things, then the topic boards are available.

I’m still not understanding why somebody who might want advice on donations for Ukraine should have to post in AIBU or chat or scroll back through pages of MIL posts.

Mumsnet HQ, I don't want to see all these war threads. Some of them have extreme titles, which I don't want to read.

@Fernandina

Why don't you just hide AIBU and chat I already have AIBU hidden. Doesn't stop them constantly appearing in 'trending' though. And if I hide Chat as well, it will be a waste of time coming on MN.

@LilyMumsnet Please please can we have a war topic now?

But why is it a waste of time coming on to MN if you have to hide chat? We have repeatedly been told on here that it doesn't matter where threads are and it's fine for conversations to happen in their relevant topic boards because people can still talk about whatever they want to talk about. There are apparently lots of you who want to talk about other things, so why not just go to the relevant boards and start some conversations?

I didn't actually know that hidden topics still appear on the trending now list, and I think that's a valid issue. Perhaps that's something that could be addressed?

MNHQ I'm sorry to sound like a drama llama but can something be done about triggering thread titles appearing on the Trending homepage? Perhaps HQ edits to make the trigger warning long enough so that people who don't want to see things about nukes etc, don't see it on the first bar of the Trending topics.

I'm 4 months PP and feeling quite vulnerable at the minute. I know there are alot of MN users in the same position who feel the same.

I've had anxiety to the point of panic attacks since the Ukraine/Russia situation started, seeing thread titles about nuclear war and Armageddon are really distressing me.

Obviously people don't want to see these things so they click on the threads to hide them, thus bumping them even more.

Please can something be done?

@merrymouse

I’m still not understanding why somebody who might want advice on donations for Ukraine should have to post in AIBU or chat or scroll back through pages of MIL posts.

I agree, they shouldn't have to. They can post in "In the News" section or whatever of they wish. It's a question of whether they should be allowed to post on the miscellaneous boards if they want to.

It seems that people who want to talk about other subjects are keen to argue the importance of retaining access to Chat and AIBU for themselves, while simultaneously insisting that it shouldn't make any difference where people post and a topic board should be perfectly adequate. If that's the case, why not just use the topic boards yourselves and hide the ones that are disturbing you?

MNHQ

Another forum that I go on, has a thread called The one and only Ukraine War Thread. Everyone has to post on that thread and others started are removed.

They can post in "In the News" section or whatever of they wish.

‘In the News’ doesn’t really cover things that touch people personally.

Irrespective of whether threads need to be moved (and I’ve clearly expressed my opinion on this), I think we are past the point when there should be a topic for Ukraine.

The choice shouldn’t be between opening yourself up to arsey replies on AIBU or hoping your thread doesn’t disappear on chat.