Mumsnet moderation of trans rights and gender critical issues II

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Follow on from www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/3276551-Mumsnet-moderation-of-trans-rights-and-gender-critical-issues?pg=40&order=

weezol

Oooh same here

I take screenshots now

I used to take pictures of recipes and kittens

And now its my own inane ramblings!!

I've just watched all three ad breaks in a recorded programme.

Sending comfort to you Weezol, you know you've lost the plot when you're doing this!

I am another one screenshotting my own posts so I can be sure what I've said and can refer back to it. This is a very silly position to be in.

Thebewilderness - good summary of the situation and I agree this is opening the door to all manner of TRA shenanigans.

Apropos of a collective term for ‘trans women’ that doesn’t reference sex, how about this: trans males refer to their ‘male self’ as ‘Bob’, so:

‘Ex-Bob’

Eg ‘the new women’s officer is another ex-Bob, whatever next.’

Is that really true Miranda? That is very funny if so.

It’s all true!

I'd be happy with ex-Bob.

Has a bit of a ring to it. And proposed by a real life transgender person so no danger of it being transphobic.

Ta.

Is there a term that female transgender people use to refer to their 'female self'?

Is that really true Miranda

Never heard that before. I sometimes talk about my old life.

It’s all true

Not something I've ever heard of.

YetAnotherSpartacus

I suspect the mods came up with what they thought was a compromise among themselves. Ban cis and TERF as well as TIF and TIM.
That is not what had been discussed with members.
Tranny and TERF used as accusations were the requested bans.
Today the transgender advocates are feeling free to call us transphobic because they do not think the personal attack rules apply to them or to calling women derogatory names.

We are all a bit confused.
My strike was with regard to the number of AGPs.
A self identified AGP is currently arguing that no true trans would send bomb threats to WP_UK so I suspect i will use up my two remaining lives there.

I came across it in the Pink News a while back.

link

That is a very funny fact. Not mocking them, it's just unexpected. Humour is not something I've encountered often among trans id'd people.

Ex-Bob.

Humour is not something I've encountered often among trans id'd people

We are people just like everyone else. Even I can tell a joke about being trans at times.

Gawd yet, better not tell one on here, you'll get yourself modded!

better not tell one on here, you'll get yourself modded

How many trans people does it take to change a lightbulb?

One - but they need 2 separate opinions to prove it needs changing.

(I am sure that people can adapt that for self ID)

Thank be often said that most transgenderists transition to humourless... I rue the lack of humour.

Miranda - I cannot believe your post was deleted. I didn't read what it said, I haven't even caught up with the whole thread since yesterday. But I cannot believe Miranda Yardley, a transexual's, thread was deleted under these new moderation guidelines. FFS.

And that post just took two clicks to post - fuck me, I thought I'd been banned for a minute there, whilst out on a family do - but thankfully I was just in a bit of a dodgy internet-connection part of the house.

But fuck me (again) it's all a bit bloody Stalin, this, eh?

Yetanother that made me snort, and now I feel a bastard for laughing at a joke about transpeople!

We are all a bit confused. My strike was with regard to the number of AGPs.

Im really concerned about this thebewilderness.... there seems to be very good evidence about numbers of AGPs... and a number of self-identifying AGPs writing about how AGP is denied, and hidden and one of their main concerns being that this is so.... including I understand a couple of either psychiatrists or psychologists who treat people for AGP and are AGP themselves, and have done interesting studies

Bob is from Blackadder isn’t it? Can we use ex-Kate as well?
I can only hear ‘Bob’ in a Blackadder voice...

And of course, Bob could be short for Robert or Roberta, so no reference to natal sex there.....excellent suggestion.

MN has gone to pot basically. I don't know how they can live with themselves, especially those who have daughters of their own - i'll probably get deleted for that

I don't have a reply yet to any of my contact with HQ. Which is fine, they are no doubt busy, it's the weekend, etc.

I would really appreciate a reply at some point however and I am a little surprised to have no message at all concerning 2 posts of mine that I have reported as usually HQ are very quick to do something about reported posts.

I'm hoping the delay is because they are not ready to reply rather than because they aren't going to reply at all!

I'd leave it until tomorrow during the day, Beachcomber and then ask them to reinstate your post again. It is possible that you'll get someone different responding and they'll just reinstate it rather than create any more work for themselves.