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Word of advice to MNHQ #2

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BackieJerkhart · 25/08/2017 18:29

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ScrambledSmegs · 27/08/2017 00:53

Beyond - ha, definitely chips! I've been watching old adverts on Youtube thanks to you. Remember this one?

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 27/08/2017 08:37

@serfterf - I've just gone back to the previous thread and saw your comment about Milton and how things really couldn't get any stranger.

And I remembered this (which has absolutely zip to do with the current situation/ Stratters/ MNHQ) which might mildly entertain:
www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/people-in-toronto-created-a-memorial-to-a-dead-raccoon-after?utm_term=.bqr96aJDrV#.ltnAXMY2VG

mmzz · 27/08/2017 08:50

If you are always asking yourself whether an OP is genuine or not, it becomes a bit wearying and makes you hesitant to contribute.
Is that not the deal with the people who create forums: their job is to keep on top of abusive posts and trolling and in return the users create free, fresh content for them?
I don't know if Mumsnet had been understaffed or what this last year, but it feels like the troll get far too much opportunity.

If understaffing is the issue, it might also explain the lack of proper communication when suspending and having posters.

Why would you keep manpower low though? The company makes a profit so can afford more employees. Could it be related to the theory over on redditt that the company is preparing for sale, or even just looking for a large investment so needs to appear as profitable and with as much scope for growth as possible?

mmzz · 27/08/2017 08:52

..... Suspending and banning posters

derxa · 27/08/2017 09:09

I hope people didn't think I meant trolls on this thread. Had a bit too much vino last night. I don't know what the answer is Sad

SoPassRemarkable · 27/08/2017 09:14

There's so many trolls it's untrue. I can guess a lot of the time even from the thread title that it's a troll so don't bother opening it. Yes, maybe I'm wrong and this is why MN is being harmed. I won't even bother reading 20% of threads.

There's a number of active threads currently which are trolls. Plenty of which I actually have opened and read and doing so has confirmed my troll suspicion.

I don't bother reporting. It would be a full time job and I have better things to do.....especially when nothing is done.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 27/08/2017 09:34

derxa

I did panic slightly when you sadi that Grin

mmzz · 27/08/2017 09:38

Iinclusion I guess in Active Threads is automated? But couldn't you change the algorithm such that you create a manual marker against suspect threads that you haven't had a chance to investigate yet and have these excluded from inclusion in Active Threads.
You could even extend it by creating a manual list of users you suspect of not being genuine and omit the threads that they have posted more than 6 times on (say)from inclusion in Active Threads.
Preventing what turns out to be a thread you you will eventually decide to delete frombeing quite so front and centre would not solve the problem but it would diminish it quite a bit.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 27/08/2017 10:16

I just got a proper message from HQ after reporting a post-not a troll, the poster wanted the post taken down and it wasn't happening fast enough- so much nicer than the automated oneSmile

DamnFineCherryPie · 27/08/2017 10:27

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BoreOfWhabylon · 27/08/2017 10:30

Absolutely. And the exaggerated or spoof threads can be great fun with a willing suspension of disbelief by all involved.

Classics would be very empty without them.

DamnFineCherryPie · 27/08/2017 10:38

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BunnyNeeded · 27/08/2017 11:35

I don't understand at all. I don't understand if Justine is genuinely asking how they can change things. Did she really not read the deleted David threads?

The David thing created so much anger and frustration that people naturally needed to discuss, we weren't allowed to do so and posts were deleted so people went to reddit to talk - and now are being banned for doing so. Seriously? So basically we supply the content used to sell to advertisers at great profit - but only if we say what they want us to. Wow!

BunnyNeeded · 27/08/2017 11:36

Oh and then to try to flog us a book of our own comments about bloody nits Shock. It's unbelievable.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 27/08/2017 11:36

BunnyNeeded

I don't understand at all. I don't understand if Justine is genuinely asking how they can change things. Did she really not read the deleted David threads?

I honestly think that's a possibility.

BunnyNeeded · 27/08/2017 11:38

Just. Wow.

Interesting dynamic between Justine and whoever it was left in charge (was it Kate?). Poor judgement all round.

PandorasXbox · 27/08/2017 11:41

I doubt very much Justine isn't up to date with the David fiasco.

MsGameandWatching · 27/08/2017 11:42

Oh and then to try to flog us a book of our own comments about bloody nits shock. It's unbelievable.

She's out of touch, like the Queen Grin

endehors · 27/08/2017 11:58

Oh and then to try to flog us a book of our own comments about bloody nits shock. It's unbelievable.

I saw that elsewhere and thought it was a joke! I didn't mind the recipe book, though

ClashCityRocker · 27/08/2017 12:00

I don't think there is any such thing as a harmless troll.

Threads encouraging users to share information about embarrassing bodily functions and accidents are quite possibly playing in to the hands of someone who gets aroused by that sort of shit.

When such threads are deleted (poo troll anyone?) many users will feel uncomfortable that they have shared a personal incident in the hope of offering op support only to find that the op is a troll.

And once you've been taken in, you're suspicious of everything. People avoid posting on anything but the most trivial of threads and content takes a nose dive.

I try and give most people the benefit of doubt but always remind myself 'would I be happy posting this if it turned out that it was a troll?'

Troll threads, regardless of how seemingly harmless, ruin the integrity of a forum. It also, of course, gives rise to troll-hunting (and I do mean that in the literal sense, rather than just raising concerns or asking pertinent questions) which is also not great...again this impacts on content as people become reluctant to post anything too interesting due to the risk of being called out as a troll.

There does need to be more of a reaction to reports rather than the feeling that they are just disappearing into the ether - I see MNHQ are trying to address this which is a positive step, they just need to continue with it rather than hoping that it's a phase that will blow over.

ClashCityRocker · 27/08/2017 12:01

There were definitely paragraphs in that!

Oh well, I'm just procrasting about doing the dishes anyway.

Mmzz · 27/08/2017 12:01

I suspect promoting the nits book on the site was part of the contract with the publishers.
It strikes a bad note now but it probably seemed like a good deal when the contract was signed a few months ago

ibbleobbleblackbubble · 27/08/2017 12:02

Oh and then to try to flog us a book of our own comments about bloody nits
Really?
did they really do that?
ha ha ha
Fucking brass neck!
more front than Woolworths!
They really do like to milk us don't they
What a bunch of parasites Mumsnet headquarters is
Cockroaches?
tapeworm more like😁

endehors · 27/08/2017 12:05

I've just bumped into one of the 'harmless' trolls, mentioned on Reddit, on another thread (one of the Walter Mitty trolls, but unpleasant with it) I didn't say anything of course, but it is tempting.

ibbleobbleblackbubble · 27/08/2017 12:18

As much as they want us to see ourselves as shoplifters in Boots the truth is that in their view we are a crop and they want to harvest the shit out of Us.