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Original poster

MNHQ - if you are going to contribute your thoughts to the trans debate, can you use a new thread

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Ego147 · 29/08/2016 10:31

Because there are people who are part of the debate but have hidden and don't want to contribute to the threads you want to post on.

So please can you post your thoughts on a new thread. It would be open, its own thread and clear to see - rather than hidden in a post on a thread.

And I do appreciate that you have a lot of issues here to think about and you are not going to please everyone. Whatever decision you come to will be 'the wrong one for some'.

Enjoy your Gin and Chocolate at the staff meeting you will inevitably be having about this.

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MistressMerryWeather · 30/08/2016 22:45

Kua you seem to be twisting things here.

There are people of all opinions here who would like to see an official response from HQ.

Something clear that people can refer to without having to wade through all of the threads on this subject.

There is a lot of upset right now so it just seems like the most sensible idea.

Showmethewaytogohome · 30/08/2016 22:46

Because answering questions and logic is not possible? That in itself is all the answer I need

Be honest - you don't actually have any answers

MistressMerryWeather · 30/08/2016 22:48

If people don't want things to all about Ego then they should stop asking so many questions. :o

It takes more than one person to derail a thread.

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Ego147 · 30/08/2016 22:49

Be honest - you don't actually have any answers

You can demand all you like. I don't have to answer. Especially when the thread is about MNHQs response Hmm

Kua you seem to be twisting things here

Indeed,

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kua · 30/08/2016 22:53

Mistress Twisting what? I think it is a valid question, I don't see people asking the DIBB/MSE on their standpoints!

JudyCoolibar · 30/08/2016 22:54

This is one trans thread too many, imo

FFS. So we can have six threads on which, frankly, all the discussion is very much one way and not in favour of trans people, but when a trans person wants to raise a separate but related issue she shouldn't be allowed to start a new thread?

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Ego147 · 30/08/2016 22:58

I think it is a valid question

You do realise that MNHQ were going to post a response? Or were you just expecting nothing from them?

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MistressMerryWeather · 30/08/2016 23:01

Or is it that this forum is predominately viewed as female that you think they should have to state a view?

Personally, that just read like you were turning the OP into something it wasn't.

Don't you think it would be a good idea to have something people can refer to/link easily for the sake of clarity given how heated these threads can become?

It just seems sensible to me.

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Ego147 · 30/08/2016 23:02

kua

From a deleted trans thread

Message from MNHQ: Thread withdrawn as MN responses to the Transgender debate will be posted on the OG threads

So all I've done is ask if MNHQ could post a response on a new thread. They didn't. They put it on the end of the Spartacus thread. And as it happens, someone then started a thread (as I suggested - but I bet they didn't do it because I suggested it)

It was predictable that the response would provoke debate. And it has.

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JudyCoolibar · 30/08/2016 23:03

And I still so not understand what this thread is about tbh - and you haven't answered that either

And another FFS. It's perfectly clear what the thread is about.

The bullying on this thread perfectly illustrates why it was appropriate at least to try to keep it on the topic raised in the OP.

MistressMerryWeather · 30/08/2016 23:05

I do think a lot of this is because they are expecting a shit storm.

Do they still have people out on holiday?

Maybe the just want to be better prepared, which I don't blame them. :o

kua · 30/08/2016 23:14

Still not answered. Why is this discussion forum held to answer to the few ? Compared to the Dibb/MSE

JudyCoolibar · 30/08/2016 23:15

Kua, the point is not that anyone is holding MNHQ to an answer. The point is that they said they were going to give a statement of their viewpoint, so OP is just asking them to do what they said they were going to do on a separate thread.

VashtaNerada · 30/08/2016 23:21

Ego WineBrew I'm impressed you're still standing after so many dull repetitive threads about how awful trans people are. I certainly went through a phase of hiding them when it all got a bit upsetting. We need to keep posting though, for all the people reading and thinking that everyone thinks like that.

MistressMerryWeather · 30/08/2016 23:22

Exactly Judy.

I think everyone wants better clarity here.

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Ego147 · 30/08/2016 23:23

Why is this discussion forum held to answer to the few

I'll say it again:

People on the Spartacus thread were expecting a response from MNHQ. There have been 6 trans threads recently.
MNHQ said they would give a response
People were asking for a response.

No one is holding them to account and give an answer. They were always going to give an answer.

But it's ok. They've given an answer. And there's a whole new thread. I am so so tempted to go on there and say 'that's a great idea for starting a thread to the response as I suggested' but I think that might not help Grin

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RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 30/08/2016 23:29

ego was completely right to ask for a new thread, it made much more sense

KimmySchmidtsSmile · 30/08/2016 23:30

I am clearly late to the bunfight.
Ego was right in requesting MN to post their response in a separate thread.
Posting it in p36 of a forty page thread was not the right solution as far as I am concerned:
Not just because the response itself got hidden at the end before the thread got full, but it enabled fewer subsequent responses from MNHQ.
It also derailed that thread.
Bottom line: all of you who are enraged at MNHQ's policy could in fact boycott the site. You won't though because we all know it is one of the few places that would have ever let the Sparticus thread stand.

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Ego147 · 30/08/2016 23:31

Posting it in p36 of a forty page thread was not the right solution as far as I am concerned

I agree. And at 10pm. Because there was bound to be a response.

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kua · 30/08/2016 23:33

You haven't answered the question. I'll simplify it, Why do you think this forum should beholden by those that post? Doesn't matter which way you think, but why this one in particular?

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Ego147 · 30/08/2016 23:34

Why do you think this forum should beholden by those that post

I don't even get that question. Maybe someone else can answer it for you?

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Original poster
Ego147 · 30/08/2016 23:36

Or

Are you asking why MNHQ should listen to those people who post and 'follow' their requests when they ask?

Given what's happening, that's kind of ironic Hmm

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MistressMerryWeather · 30/08/2016 23:40

Why do you think this forum should beholden by those that post?

Beholden is a strong word but that's just the way HQ do things. They take what their users say into consideration.

Surely that's not a bad thing?

KimmySchmidtsSmile · 30/08/2016 23:40

Show
You are merailing. This thread was linked from the Sparticus thread. You have come here to have a go. It's bloody obvious why this thread was started and even the OP of said Sparticus thread agreed that the MNHQ response would be best served on a new thread. They said they would be responding, ego did not demand a response. And they have responded. You just don't like their response.

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 30/08/2016 23:43

Agree mistress

They are always asking what people think about this or that and being "chummy" (sorry cant think of another word)

Its a very "we are all friends how can we help you peace and love" site