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Hey MNHQ. Would it be possible to have a discussion about how SN issues/threads are handled on the main boards. ( pt 2)

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Samcro · 26/06/2016 10:23

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Jasonandyawegunorts · 28/06/2016 17:51

ASD is still in use, and HFA hasn't been replaced with anything to my knowledge.

2boysnamedR · 28/06/2016 17:52

I'm not picking a fight. Not at all. I have enough of those in real life. I'm just asking the question. I don't mean to offend anyone

Jasonandyawegunorts · 28/06/2016 17:56

I don't thing 2boys is picking a fight.

Samcro · 28/06/2016 17:56

It all gets mixed up
Another poster insisted impairment was the new disabled.
Used brain damaged a lot. I wouldn't use either term yetwe were both parents tokids with cp

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2boysnamedR · 28/06/2016 17:58

I was told by my doctor and a senco that all new diagnoses are ASC now as things like asperges, HFA confuse the issue as its still same three triads involved. But HFA seems to imply people with autism are not all impacted by the three areas. I haven't checked NICE maybe it's wrong

2boysnamedR · 28/06/2016 17:59

I tend to belive the senco but in the past that's been a big mistake Grin this one is running a unit in MS

NeedACleverNN · 28/06/2016 17:59

Crikey. It's a mine field really into what the correct term is

Jasonandyawegunorts · 28/06/2016 18:00

That does make sense, as the whole "high functioning", "low functioning" thing tend to make people think of "More normal autism" and "rayman autism". (Sorry)

However it's not like that at all.

So it would simplify it all.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 28/06/2016 18:02

rainman obviously, not the computergame character with floating hands.

NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe · 28/06/2016 18:02

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2boysnamedR · 28/06/2016 18:04

If I want a fight all I need to do is take my lovely ds to a cafe for lunch... Or to Tesco....

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fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 28/06/2016 18:06

I don't see anything wrong with it particularly. But I think it's obvious to see why some would.

NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe · 28/06/2016 18:09

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MrsHathaway · 28/06/2016 18:09

When Jon did a very sensitive documentary about OCD the doctor said the difference between a disorder and a condition is the extent to which it affects your life. From memory the distinction for obsessive compulsion was whether it occupied 10% or more of the patient's time.

I feel like that's a useful distinction (not necessarily a useful number). I have a hearing impairment but it probably affects less than 5% of my normal daily life at a guess. A person with a "very mild" ASC might be able to live in society with very few adjustments, whereas a person with a more severe ASC might never be able to live independently (for example) which would have a more far reaching effect and would make an ASD label more appropriate - to the extent that labels are ever appropriate or helpful.

Since the disorder label has more to do with the person's ability to function in the world as it stands, one might hypothesise that adjustments to the world would make more difference than a "cure" for the patient ...

MrsHathaway · 28/06/2016 18:11

That was a very non sequitur post.

From a position of ignorance I'd say that ASC includes ASD - so each term would be appropriate in different particular sentences.

NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe · 28/06/2016 18:17

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Jasonandyawegunorts · 28/06/2016 18:18

There's also the posters intent too, that comes into it alot.

Randomperson 2: "So and so is a moron, with stupid moronic behaviour"
Randomperson 1: "Please don't use moron in that context
Randomperson 2: "Sorry didn't know it was offensive, i won't use it again"

Absolutly fine, no need for a deletion.

vsThis:

Randomperosn 2: "So and so is a moron, with stupid moronic behaviour"
Randomperson 1: "Please don't use moron in that context"
Randomperosn 2: "Grow Da fuck up, i can use what i like it's welsh for carrot. Moron moron moron"

NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe · 28/06/2016 18:25

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2boysnamedR · 28/06/2016 18:26

Agree Jason

My older boy has DCD and SPD but he goes to mainstream with a statement. How does the word disorder fit here? I don't want a reply really as like I say I'm not trying to upset people. But by purely saying DCD I'm going to offend someone, somewhere even though my child with autism has profound / severe needs - disorder doesn't fit with him, but it does for the mainstream ds

2boysnamedR · 28/06/2016 18:28

So some things are a minefield. Where as yes somethings are bloody obvious. My sister has called my son the R word by the way. That was a exceptionally sad moment in my life. I didn't even see the point of opening my mouth to reply as to why that wasn't ok.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 28/06/2016 18:34

Sad Flowers

NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe · 28/06/2016 18:38

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Jasonandyawegunorts · 28/06/2016 18:40

I don't fully understand how it's come back into common usage, like the s word.

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