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Hey MNHQ. Would it be possible to have a discussion about how SN issues/threads are handled on the main boards.

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Pagwatch · 12/06/2016 11:38

I know you are fire fighting a bit and I'm not trying to stir things up.

I just think that there are endless threads that require you to get involved and try to (for the sake of a better word) mediate between pissed of posters with no real experience of SN/disability and pissed off member of the SN/disability community.

I think you try really really hard to be fair and even handed. It's an understandable response but I have growing doubts about it.
There have been half a dozen threads recently where posters I recognise as living with SN/disability issues deal with a continuous stream of posts from any random who pops up on a thread making the same stupid, ill informed or frankly goady post.
It's like swimming through a tidal wave of shit.
Then, as posters get increasingly exasperated by each arriving poster saying 'well I'm not putting my buggy away if my baby is asleep' or 'why can't I use the disabled toilet if it's empty' or 'but people with SN can be violent. I know of stabbing someone and attacks all the time' they get rude and the thread descends into eurrgh.

I'm still reading constant posts where anyone affected by disability is berated if they are angry, the message being 'be nice, be grateful or we don't have to be fair'

It seems to me that the status quo of 'fairness' is simply unfair.
Posters already dealing with immense difficulty shouldn't be forced to defend themselves against every person who turns up and says unpleasant things under the umbrella of debate. You said a long time ago it was not our responsibility to educate but the reality is that, with no palpable support from you guys, we are endlessly having to educate.

I am not pretending to have the answer but is it possible to contemplate methods by which you could actually say to posters saying 'if someone in a wheelchair can't use their space because I'm not putting my buggy away' that their comments are wrong and not in the spirit of the site?

You link to the This Is My Child campaign but the posters who are the problem won't care and won't read it.

I don't know - I just wonder if you could think about this.
Sometimes there are not two sides to a debate because only one side is directly affected, exhausted, distressed and having their lives and their children's lives made harder.

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DixieNormas · 22/06/2016 20:00

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FlouncyMcFlounceFace · 22/06/2016 20:01

Thats so not fair! At least i've discovered chocolate

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BishopBrennansArse · 22/06/2016 20:05

I might go to bed in a minute. Yes I'm serious.
Major RA flare, the steroids just dumped me into exhaustionville and DD looks like she's revving up for an all nighter (screeching every 2 hours from 1am)

BeyondTellingEveryoneRealFacts · 22/06/2016 20:10

I'd already been asleep an hour and a half by this time yesterday, so i utterly understand
Sweet dreams Brew

NeedACleverNN · 22/06/2016 20:15

Your link on page 29 doesn't work btw Maryz

I do agree it was handled badly though
So many deleted posts. Some I don't even understand why they have deleted in the first place

BishopBrennansArse · 22/06/2016 20:23

Scrap that. DD refusing bed.

BishopBrennansArse · 22/06/2016 20:25

I need to find an Alex Brooker bullshit button embedded in a webpage, only got it in an app on my phone.

Baconyum · 22/06/2016 20:52

I'm another who went through that thread and reported EVERY SINGLE DISABLIST POST

I'm utterly disgusted at MNHQ that thread should be deleted and the reason

Nasty disablist op followed by nasty disablist posts!

ONE poster I reported at least 6 times just on that thread and they post disablist posts repeatedly - so much for 2 strikes!!

But - I will not be moved!

I'm luck in that my disability is not severe so whenever I can I will challenge and report those type of posts!

Why should they get away with it!! Angry

NeedACleverNN · 22/06/2016 20:56

Was one of the posts you reported mine? I have one deleted on page one

If you can remember can you point out where I was being disabilist as I am actually unsure what I said wrong.

Also i do apologise if it came across like that as I am not a disabilist in any way shape or form.

Baconyum · 22/06/2016 20:58

I honestly don't know as there were just SO many! You're not the poster I reported multiple times - their name is now burned into my memory though!

Pagwatch · 22/06/2016 20:58

If you were reported and deleted then you must have said something deletable.

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AliceInUnderpants · 22/06/2016 20:59

I want to start a thread saying that we ARE the SN/disability brigade, hoping that others would post examples of things that we won't tolerate and that we will challenge on. Would anyone be interested in that?

Pagwatch · 22/06/2016 21:00

That whole thread is dreadful.

I'm actually less irritated with the openly disablist posters than I am with the rubber neckers and the deliberately obtuse.

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NeedACleverNN · 22/06/2016 21:01

Don't be so sure of that pagwatch

Quite a few people have said their posts have been deleted for no reason

Pagwatch · 22/06/2016 21:01

I'm pretty sure.

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Baconyum · 22/06/2016 21:02

Pag is also right

I certainly don't control what MNHQ do. God knows I've reported plenty of times and been told the infamous

Poster was just inside guidelines

Baconyum · 22/06/2016 21:03

Well tell us what you said?

Pagwatch · 22/06/2016 21:04

There are a few posters doing a fine line in hand wringing "well gosh I don't understand" posting which allows them to be fucking unpleasant in a tone that seems questioning.

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NeedACleverNN · 22/06/2016 21:05

I can't actually remember but I think it was long the lines of the poster was not being unreasonable and it sounded like a scary situation to be in.
The woman was out of order shouting/raving and kicking the door whilst you was in the cubicle.

I certainly did not call anyone a cunt or say that she should have slammed the door or taken her time

Pagwatch · 22/06/2016 21:09

Well it obviously wasn't just that because lots of people posted that sort of drivel.

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NeedACleverNN · 22/06/2016 21:10

I can promise you it was which is why I am so confused. If it had said anything derogatory, I would understand but I am genuinely at a loss

Baconyum · 22/06/2016 21:11

He's quite a few posters have posted same and not been deleted also posts saying slightly worse have not been deleted

NeedACleverNN · 22/06/2016 21:14

I wish I could see what I wrote really but never mind.
The post has gone and that's that

Pagwatch · 22/06/2016 21:20

Well, your post where you think it's unfair that she should have to use another changing room just because she's normal is still there.

That probably the one I would have reported. So it's not all bad news.

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