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Hey MNHQ. Would it be possible to have a discussion about how SN issues/threads are handled on the main boards.

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Pagwatch · 12/06/2016 11:38

I know you are fire fighting a bit and I'm not trying to stir things up.

I just think that there are endless threads that require you to get involved and try to (for the sake of a better word) mediate between pissed of posters with no real experience of SN/disability and pissed off member of the SN/disability community.

I think you try really really hard to be fair and even handed. It's an understandable response but I have growing doubts about it.
There have been half a dozen threads recently where posters I recognise as living with SN/disability issues deal with a continuous stream of posts from any random who pops up on a thread making the same stupid, ill informed or frankly goady post.
It's like swimming through a tidal wave of shit.
Then, as posters get increasingly exasperated by each arriving poster saying 'well I'm not putting my buggy away if my baby is asleep' or 'why can't I use the disabled toilet if it's empty' or 'but people with SN can be violent. I know of stabbing someone and attacks all the time' they get rude and the thread descends into eurrgh.

I'm still reading constant posts where anyone affected by disability is berated if they are angry, the message being 'be nice, be grateful or we don't have to be fair'

It seems to me that the status quo of 'fairness' is simply unfair.
Posters already dealing with immense difficulty shouldn't be forced to defend themselves against every person who turns up and says unpleasant things under the umbrella of debate. You said a long time ago it was not our responsibility to educate but the reality is that, with no palpable support from you guys, we are endlessly having to educate.

I am not pretending to have the answer but is it possible to contemplate methods by which you could actually say to posters saying 'if someone in a wheelchair can't use their space because I'm not putting my buggy away' that their comments are wrong and not in the spirit of the site?

You link to the This Is My Child campaign but the posters who are the problem won't care and won't read it.

I don't know - I just wonder if you could think about this.
Sometimes there are not two sides to a debate because only one side is directly affected, exhausted, distressed and having their lives and their children's lives made harder.

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Maryz · 22/06/2016 18:18

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BishopBrennansArse · 22/06/2016 18:25

I might have to take my chair for a ride and sit outside swigging vodka and singing rude songs...

AliceInUnderpants · 22/06/2016 18:32

Playing right into their hands, but I'm really starting to think we need a commune of our own

BeyondTellingEveryoneRealFacts · 22/06/2016 18:39

:(

FlouncyMcFlounceFace · 22/06/2016 18:43

Latest message on changing room thread...

KatherineMumsnet (MNHQ) Wed 22-Jun-16 18:30:47
We've had a lot of reports about this thread, and we are doing our best to moderate as quickly as we can - we simply aren't able to get back to all of you individually, and for that we really are sorry.

If you have any complaints at all, please do get in touch at: [email protected], and we will do our best to get back to you as soon we can to address your concerns.

The very last thing we ever wish is for anyone to feel unheard, unsupported and let down by us - please rest assured that we do care, very much, and we are doing the best we can.

AliceInUnderpants · 22/06/2016 18:52

"we do care, very much" - bollocks. The last post from MNHQ on this thread was an apology for their shitty actions on this very matter. The one previous to that was 4 days ago and about a fucking batphone.

FlouncyMcFlounceFace · 22/06/2016 19:01

They are now going through changing room thread again with round two deletions. I'm sure I wasn't the only one to sit and hit report on each swear at the disabled person type post.

AliceInUnderpants · 22/06/2016 19:07

Flouncy you were probably not the only one, but I'm guessing they probably "didn't receive your reports" Wink

Akire · 22/06/2016 19:13

It's not to much to ask if a thread is reported with the first couple of posts of kindle for another fight surely MNHQ could put a note on it saying something like.

We appreciate that OP feelings may have been hurt, but let's consider the person may well had a Disability or illness that made them act in a way that cause upset therefore be respectful in how you post. This could be your child, sister, mother. I'd love them to say we are confused you needed to name change for something clearly not your fault unless you are going say something you have no desire to be associate with (red flag again)

Or turn it around re phrase it as "we can all agree that this was upsetting experience, how about we offer suggest how to deal with it if women just being pain in ass (slim chance) or B the person most likely has a disability which is challenging how would they all cope better next time.

Not leaving it run so vulnerable person gets called all sorts, and turns into who had the rights over shared spaces again.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 22/06/2016 19:15

I know it's a long time comming but they've deleted a lot of posts on that thread now.

Akire · 22/06/2016 19:16

Have they said why deleted? Or just "not met guidelines"

Jasonandyawegunorts · 22/06/2016 19:18

"not met guidelines"

BeyondTellingEveryoneRealFacts · 22/06/2016 19:33

I dont think they have an option at the mo, everything comes up as "not met guidelines". I think changing that would be a big step in the right direction

AliceInUnderpants · 22/06/2016 19:33

RebeccaMumsnet (MNHQ) Sat 18-Jun-16 11:31:11

We will try and put up a deletion message that reflects the reasons for deletion on a thread. We hope to have more content to link to and we will be more proactive about banning repeat offenders, more on a two strike than a three strike system including a mail to explain why we have banned or a warning mail to spelling out why their post was removed.

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Jasonandyawegunorts · 22/06/2016 19:34

I think Rebeccamumsnet made a thread the other day testing out deletion messages. I do think they are working on a site update to do that.

BishopBrennansArse · 22/06/2016 19:39

They deleted my poos!!!

Jasonandyawegunorts · 22/06/2016 19:40
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DixieNormas · 22/06/2016 19:55

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FlouncyMcFlounceFace · 22/06/2016 19:55

How do you do poos? (That sounds so wrong on so many levels)

Maryz · 22/06/2016 19:57

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FlouncyMcFlounceFace · 22/06/2016 19:57

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Akire · 22/06/2016 19:58

If your post gets deleted do you get a message? Or can you stil be in blissful ignorance?

FlouncyMcFlounceFace · 22/06/2016 19:58

No poo!

BishopBrennansArse · 22/06/2016 19:59

Strain.
Wink

But seriously...

I have an iPad. Can't do it in the app so go into safari, access by mobile site and type 'em in from the emoji keyboard.

DixieNormas · 22/06/2016 19:59

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