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MNHQ Racism policy

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ThePigOfHappiness · 31/12/2013 15:17

Hi,
I was just wondering if you could let us know when the racism policy has been amended? I'm sure following today's discussions on NI that it needs to be looked at.
It's clearly breaking the equality act to discriminate based on nationality as it is racist, yet MNHQ don't acknowledge this?
Ta

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squoosh · 08/01/2014 19:49

Well wannabe you're hardly in a position to lecture people on manners now are you?

Pan · 08/01/2014 19:51

Damn. But don't expect/hope anyone to respond to the shite you post.

hth

wannabedomesticgoddess · 08/01/2014 19:52

Well wannabe you're hardly in a position to lecture people on manners now are you?

You aren't getting anywhere with any of the posters on this thread, so what, you are going to turn personal?

squoosh · 08/01/2014 19:52
Hmm

What 'shite'? You may disagree but do you need to be that unpleasant?

squoosh · 08/01/2014 19:54

wannabee you're the one who started swearing at me for whatever reason, I don't see how you can try to take the high moral ground now.

YoureBeingASillyBilly · 08/01/2014 19:54

Squoosh have you come to this thread deliberately to stir? You seem to have an axe to grind with either me or wannabe but i dont recall ever upsetting you. I recognise your name from other threads but dont think we have crossed words before todays thread. Is there something personal going on here?

wannabedomesticgoddess · 08/01/2014 19:54

You may disagree but do you need to be that unpleasant?

I could say the same about you.

squoosh · 08/01/2014 19:57

No I'm not deliberately stirring, not my scene. I'm just a bit exasperated that I'm deemed to be talking 'shite' because I don't agree with people's view on today's thread.

wannabedomesticgoddess · 08/01/2014 19:57

I swore. Ah. I offended you did I?

YoureBeingASillyBilly · 08/01/2014 19:59

Yes it is very exasperating being told you are talking nonsense isnt it? Wink

Pan · 08/01/2014 19:59

No, no need to be so unpleasant. I just enjoy being exact.

squoosh · 08/01/2014 19:59

Didn't say I was offended just pointing out that you can hardly claim to be a paragon of virtue and then deem me to be the baddie.

wannabedomesticgoddess · 08/01/2014 19:59

No I'm not deliberately stirring, not my scene.

You could have fooled me.

I'm just a bit exasperated that I'm deemed to be talking 'shite' because I don't agree with people's view on today's thread.

Go do it on that thread then. This one isn't about that one specifically.

squoosh · 08/01/2014 20:01

Please do report my posts if you think they have no place on this thread.

wannabedomesticgoddess · 08/01/2014 20:03

Didn't say I was offended just pointing out that you can hardly claim to be a paragon of virtue and then deem me to be the baddie.

Seriously, you need to calm down. No one is the goodie or the baddie. All I asked is that you would actually read my post and take it in. But you didn't and I too was "exasperated."

However, I want the one turning it into something personal. My obtuse comment was to posters who are dismissive in general, if you read it and thought it was to you then maybe that tells you something.

Pan · 08/01/2014 20:04

IF someone reported a post it could attract a bit of response on the thread from HQ? Though that ambition is fast receding.

wannabedomesticgoddess · 08/01/2014 20:04

*wasnt

I give up. Honestly, you really are being purposly impossible.

BookroomRed · 08/01/2014 20:08

Squoosh, it was in no sense an analogy. It was a demonstration of a continuum between stereotyping and outright discrimination. I do not personally see Oirish stereotyping, no matter who engages in it, as as benign as it confidently believes itself to be.

Nowhere did I say that there was an equivalence between the two situations. Though of course there's a long history of colonial literature written from both Irish and English perspectives which constructs precisely this Female Ireland/Male England paradigm, down to and including some of Seamus Heaney's poetry.

I can't comment in any depth on American attitudes because it's so long since I lived there, and it's bound up with expressions of Irish-Americanness, which has established 'types' of its own. I think that as a country with a very different attitude to immigration, and a very assimilative notion of Americanness, it's not like English attitudes, and in many ways, it's a deeply romantic stereotype. Irish ancestry is prized and celebrated, albeit often in stereotypical (alcoholic/pugilistic) ways. Hard to imagine David Cameron sinking a pint in Ballyporeen to celebrate his Irish ancestry.

Though I lived in Massachusetts for a year, and the continuing cultural imprint of the Kennedys alters things there a bit.

I will say, though, that there was one of a series of clips of recordings of interviews with Orson Welles on Radio 4 in the last week or so, in which he expressed at length his visceral hatred of Irish immigrants to the US. The interviewer kept gasping and saying 'You can't say that', but he he did. Obviously one man's prejudices are neither here nor there, but I don't think Radio 4 would have allowed equivalent airtime to such fulsome abuse of another ethnic group.

squoosh · 08/01/2014 20:11

No I'm not being purposely impossible, it's called 'having a different opinion'. It happens.

wannabedomesticgoddess · 08/01/2014 20:12

I fear Bookroom that your well written post will just go whoosh, right over squoosh.

wannabedomesticgoddess · 08/01/2014 20:13

No I'm not being purposely impossible, it's called 'having a different opinion'. It happens.

Then accept that we have different opinions and stop trying to prove you are right.

Pan · 08/01/2014 20:14

The OW interviewer was obv being "over-sensitive".

BackOnlyBriefly · 08/01/2014 20:19

and err Orson Welles was saying this recently was he?

YoureBeingASillyBilly · 08/01/2014 20:20

I have reported one of my own posts and asked when we can expect a response from HQ.

Pan · 08/01/2014 20:21

I think the OW note was a comment on what is and isn't acceptable to be broadcast. Doesn't matter when it was actually recorded.

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